Havana Syndrome: "Sonic Attacks" at the US Embassy in Cuba - Mass Hysteria?

JMartJr

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Embassies typically are loaded with RF communications equipment...
True, but they do not typically reveal a lot of details about their communications gear, nor of details of suspected attacks. (Full disclosure -- I lean heavily into the mass(ish) hysteria explanation, I just don't think it tells us much that government entities are not open about some aspects of embassy operations or security!)
 

Mendel

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Has anyone produced any evidence, other than self-reported symptoms?
I recommend going back a few months to this post and the one after it, and studying the JASON report.

There are some real neurological symptoms, but due to a lack of a baseline, it's impossible to say that they were caused by the "sonic attacks".

Apparently there's no sensor evidence at all.
 
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FatPhil

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True, but they do not typically reveal a lot of details about their communications gear, nor of details of suspected attacks. (Full disclosure -- I lean heavily into the mass(ish) hysteria explanation, I just don't think it tells us much that government entities are not open about some aspects of embassy operations or security!)

From what I know of Sonic Attacks, I'm blaming drugs: Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgUYq_QAkw4
 

Z.W. Wolf

Senior Member.
This is much too long for me to summarize, other to say that the possibility of psychogenic illness is being dismissed absolutely... and with some asperity.


The comments section is interesting.




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They talk about the sound associated with an attack in Havana.

This former official ... recorded the sound at his home in Havana.


Does this not sound like the "calling song" of the male Indies short tailed cricket heard here?

 
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Mendel

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"It is a byproduct, like the sound of a gun, which is not what does the harm." I understand what he's going for, but actually loud noises like gunshots do damage, with symptoms similar to the Havana syndrome, ironically.


The comments section is interesting.
Obviously unreliable (could all be Russian disinfo agents), but still...
Ethan
This happened to a civilian I know in his own home around 2017, in Ohio suburbs. Mid 20’s male, otherwise healthy. It nearly killed him and has taken years to recover (mostly) from. I wonder if this isn’t happening to people in general at a similar rate to that of federal employees. Seems if someone was nefariously targeting these 1000+ people who reported this, some physical evidence would have been collected. I believe the symptoms are very real.
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Emmanuel Bikorimana
I have experienced same symptoms in 2019 and 2020, and I am not and have never been a USA government employee. That raises a question on the truth whether its targeted towards US service personnel or it's simple a wide spread phenomenon that hasn't been well identified yet
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LM741

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A possible "Havana Syndrome" microwave weapon is covered in Russian Patent No. 2,526,478:

Method and Device of Microwave Electromagnetic Impact at Trespasser

"The technical result is achieved by the fact that it is proposed to use directional radiation modulated by amplitude of the microwave electromagnetic waves. The impact on the intruder is due to the occurrence of painful mechanical thermoelastic phenomena in individual elements of the human auditory apparatus at their resonant frequencies"

"Resonance phenomena in the 'radio sound' are due to the size of individual elements of the human auditory apparatus and are observed in the range of modulation frequencies of 6 ... 12 kHz."

"1. The method of microwave electromagnetic exposure to the intruder, characterized in that the effect is carried out by an amplitude-modulated microwave electromagnetic field with a changing modulation frequency, while the amplitude modulation frequencies are taken in the range of mechanical resonant frequencies of the intruder's head and individual elements of his hearing organ. 2. A microwave device for electromagnetic influence on an intruder, comprising a microwave generator with a radiating antenna, characterized in that an amplitude modulator and a low-frequency tuner are introduced into it, configured to tune to the mechanical resonant frequency of the intruder's head and individual elements of its hearing organs. The output of the low-frequency tuning unit is connected to the control input of the amplitude modulator, the output of which is connected to the control input of the microwave generator."


It utilizes the "microwave auditory effect" with a modulation at the resonant frequency of the target's skull (6-13 kHz) to "disable a trespasser."

Some additional information and notes are here: http://www.gbppr.net/mil/havana
 

JFDee

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A detailed article on the current state of the story. Basically, there seems to be considerable dispute, with many people claiming the government is not taking things seriously enough, along with claims of political maneuvering.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/19/us/politics/diplomat-attacks-havana-syndrome.html

User @greg51361570 on Twitter just posted a reference which refers to the "chemical agents, like pesticides" mentioned in that article. For completeness sake, this should be in the thread (I couldn't find it with the forum search). The study was done in 2019.

News link (one of numerous):
https://scienceblog.com/511061/pest...-syndrome-that-affected-cuba-based-diplomats/

A new interdisciplinary study on the “Havana Syndrome” led by Dr. Alon Friedman M.D. of Ben-Gurion University of the Negev (BGU) in Israel and Dalhousie University Brain Repair Center in Nova Scotia, Canada, points to overexposure to pesticides as a likely cause for neurological symptoms among Canadian diplomats residing in Havana, Cuba in 2016.
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Link to paper (also one of several):
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/19007096v1
 
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