Hangzhou Xiaoshan Airport UFO latest outflow video？

[Starflint]

I found this short video，Some people think this is the latest evidence of the UFO incident at Xiaoshan Airport:

I think this is a full-on CGI video, and it looks like it was inspired only by the time-lapse photo of the airliner (below).

And usually CGI faked UFO videos are very short, and the video has no UFO appearance and disappearance shots, perfectly avoiding the key point. Especially since there's no audio.

But since I don't know much about VFX technology, I can't convince the people who prove it is cgi with more professional theories. Does anyone know how to debunk this video？？

 

[jarlrmai]

You have to ask for the original source video from the device, if it cannot be provided then there's no case.

This is the problem with Metabunk, we generally accept most videos as real if they pass a sniff test and we can often debunk them on that assumption and we have a pretty good track record.

This can lead to an assumption that the onus is on others to debunk a video, but in reality it's on the claimant to provide the evidence.

 

[Starflint]

You have to ask for the original source video from the device, if it cannot be provided then there's no case.

This is the problem with Metabunk, we generally accept most videos as real if they pass a sniff test and we can often debunk them on that assumption and we have a pretty good track record.

This can lead to an assumption that the onus is on others to debunk a video, but in reality it's on the claimant to provide the evidence.

Unfortunately, I found the video not from the source, and I didn't get a response when I asked for information, so I wanted to see if there was a way to debunk it just by looking at the existing video.

 

[JMartJr]

As you say, it looks just like a time lapse of an aircraft. I wonder if it is just somebody shooting video of a still image and wiggling the camera around to make it look more "video-ish."

 

[NoParty]

Possibly a light saber in the hand of a titan, from long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.

Or--even more likely--a modern, mundane, routine aircraft.

 

[deirdre]

I found this short video

you found it where? can we have a link?

the UFO incident at Xiaoshan Airport

what incident at the xiaoshan airport? this is not a china based website, members are primarily American and European..you gotta catch us up to date if introducing things from China, give us links (and translate screenshots etc for us). thanks!

 

[Scaramanga]

I found this short video

8 seconds ? Is this one of those 'my camera battery ran out' excuse type incidents...as it baffles me that anyone could be videoing the most dramatic UFO footage of their life and just decide ' nah....I can't be bothered videoing any more' right in the middle of the action.

OR...is it more likely that cutting off the end of the video hides what was really going on.

 

[deirdre]

8 seconds ? Is this one of those 'my camera battery ran out' excuse type incidents...as it baffles me that anyone could be videoing the most dramatic UFO footage of their life and just decide ' nah....I can't be bothered videoing any more' right in the middle of the action.

OR...is it more likely that cutting off the end of the video hides what was really going on.

there could be a reason depending on site and date. didnt twitter or one of the social media sites (maybe tik tok) used to be 8 seconds? or a certain phone took 8 secs of video?

apparently the initial xianoshan airport flap was back in 2010 (and the most popular photo does sort of resemble the OP..although uap experts deemed it photoshopped). odd the chinese think light bars in the sky are ufos! at least that's different, which is good. (maybe thats where dr. who got its "crack in time" idea in the same time period). note: the pilot report that shut down the airport in 2010 in no way sounded like a light bar.

 

[MapperGuy]

there could be a reason depending on site and date. didnt twitter or one of the social media sites (maybe tik tok) used to be 8 seconds? or a certain phone took 8 secs of video?

apparently the initial xianoshan airport flap was back in 2010 (and the most popular photo does sort of resemble the OP..although uap experts deemed it photoshopped). odd the chinese think light bars in the sky are ufos! at least that's different, which is good. (maybe thats where dr. who got its "crack in time" idea in the same time period). note: the pilot report that shut down the airport in 2010 in no way sounded like a light bar.

At about 2 seconds into the video there is a brief flash of a string of lights across the bottom of the image.
Of course, the person immediately zooms in and up and shows nothing but the lights in the "sky" for the rest of the shot.
The "sky" lights appear brighter than the ones across the bottom in that brief moment.
IF this was taken at an airport. By someone in the terminal building, looking out at the runways and airplanes.
Then the lights across the bottom could be runway/taxiway lights. And the upper lights are lights on the ceiling of the building the photographer is standing in, lights on the ceiling behind the photographer.

At the end the long horizontal light has a regular series of bumps along its upper edge, presumably showing details of the housing of the horizontal light source.

Another reflection in a window of something behind the camera would be my guess.

 

[MonkeeSage]

At the end the long horizontal light has a regular series of bumps along its upper edge, presumably showing details of the housing of the horizontal light source.

Another reflection in a window of something behind the camera would be my guess.

That was my thought as well, but not sure about the "orbs" on the right.

 

[Starflint]

you found it where? can we have a link?


what incident at the xiaoshan airport? this is not a china based website, members are primarily American and European..you gotta catch us up to date if introducing things from China, give us links (and translate screenshots etc for us). thanks!

Here:Out on patrol with three boys （You may need to use a VPN）

This is a niche UFO post bar forum in China, unlike metabunk, which does a rigorous analysis, more just sharing images from unknown sources.

All we know is that it was uploaded by this guy on January 20, 2025, but we don't have any other information.

 

[Mick West]

As you say, it looks just like a time lapse of an aircraft. I wonder if it is just somebody shooting video of a still image and wiggling the camera around to make it look more "video-ish.

That's exactly what it looks like to me.

Anonymously uploaded videos are generally not worth looking at.

 

[Starflint]

At about 2 seconds into the video there is a brief flash of a string of lights across the bottom of the image.
Of course, the person immediately zooms in and up and shows nothing but the lights in the "sky" for the rest of the shot.
The "sky" lights appear brighter than the ones across the bottom in that brief moment.
IF this was taken at an airport. By someone in the terminal building, looking out at the runways and airplanes.
Then the lights across the bottom could be runway/taxiway lights. And the upper lights are lights on the ceiling of the building the photographer is standing in, lights on the ceiling behind the photographer.

At the end the long horizontal light has a regular series of bumps along its upper edge, presumably showing details of the housing of the horizontal light source.

Another reflection in a window of something behind the camera would be my guess.

I once saw someone stabilize the environment of the video background and then check for unnatural shaking trajectories of UFOs to confirm whether it is in this layer, but it seems that this video is difficult to use this method.

Source: https://x.com/ufoofinterest/status/1032908940546334725

 

[Starflint]

That was my thought as well, but not sure about the "orbs" on the right.

Source:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGgQP7piwdM


This is another video about Xiaoshan Airport that was circulated by an anonymous source a long time ago, again untraceable, but I think the inspiration for the three spheres came from here.

 

[Ann K]

This is another video about Xiaoshan Airport that was circulated by an anonymous source a long time ago, again untraceable, but I think the inspiration for the three spheres came from here.

The symmetry (and the symmetrical movement of the pair that are close together) suggest an artifact of the camera or a reflection off another surface.

 

[Starflint]

That's exactly what it looks like to me.

Anonymously uploaded videos are generally not worth looking at.

Mick，Can you check the aviation data chart of Hangzhou Xiaoshan International Airport at 8:31 8:45PM on July 7, 2010？I didn't find anything on ADSBex...

 

[deirdre]

Here:Out on patrol with three boys （You may need to use a VPN）

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This is a niche UFO post bar forum in China, unlike metabunk, which does a rigorous analysis, more just sharing images from unknown sources.

All we know is that it was uploaded by this guy on January 20, 2025, but we don't have any other information.

see thats helpful, in that thread is a similar pic allegedly from the "sighting" date of july 7 2010

 

[deirdre]

Mick，Can you check the aviation data chart of Hangzhou Xiaoshan International Airport at 8:31 8:45PM on July 7, 2010？I didn't find anything on ADSBex...

you should tell him why. and which direction he should be looking. James Oberg, below, says northwest/west.

ps this blog (which is only available on Wayback Machine now) shows other photos that were claimed to be from that event. <for future reference

And the blog links to previous debunks/explanations of the actual event ie. pilot report that shut down the airport for an hour or so.

Article:

So what about the UFO?
With all the images published along with the case explained and identified, the thing is that none of them has any actual relationship with the UFO case discussed, and are therefore completely of no use to identify it. So what caused the closing for around an hour of the Xiaoshan Airport?

"No prosaic explanation can be formulated at present because the basic facts remain garbled", writes James Oberg at ATS. But he does offer a possible explanation.

According to Oberg, as also quoted by Tim Printy on the latest SUNlite, from the best one can extract from the many conflicting reports, apparently "an airliner coming in for landing around 8:40PM saw an UFO". From the orientation of the Hagzhou airport runway, one can assume the plane was heading to the airport from the southeast.

"If so, this meant the UFO hovering over the airport was to the northwest/west. A prime candidate was in the western sky that evening, Venus."

Could a confusion with Venus fool pilots and air controllers, closing an airport for an hour? "There are some historical analogs that may provide suggested avenues of genuine research", says Oberg. "Here's one that immediately comes to mind:" the case of Barnaul Airport in Russia back in 2001.

Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20140327141916/https://forgetomori.com/2010/ufos/ufo-over-hangzhou-china-a-long-expos/

 

[Starflint]

see thats helpful, in that thread is a similar pic allegedly from the "sighting" date of july 7 2010

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The photo was taken from the north bank of Jiangdong Bridge towards Xiaoshan Airport, but the location was about 12.7 kilometers away from Xiaoshan Airport，You can see the bridge below with all the street lights that seems to correspond to that video, so I think that's where the inspiration for that video came from.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/bFoN6uLHJkH4nX2z9

 

[deirdre]

The photo was taken from the north bank of Jiangdong Bridge towards Xiaoshan Airport, but the location was about 12.7 kilometers away from Xiaoshan Airport，You can see the bridge below with all the street lights that seems to correspond to that video, so I think that's where the inspiration for that video came from.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/bFoN6uLHJkH4nX2z9

you should have told us that earlier. if the photo/video is from a field then we can rule out window reflections.

i'm now thinking long exposure of "plane" and the 3 dots were cgi'd in.

 

[Starflint]

you should tell him why. and which direction he should be looking. James Oberg, below, says northwest/west.

ps this blog (which is only available on Wayback Machine now) shows other photos that were claimed to be from that event. <for future reference

And the blog links to previous debunks/explanations of the actual event ie. pilot report that shut down the airport for an hour or so.

Article:

So what about the UFO?
With all the images published along with the case explained and identified, the thing is that none of them has any actual relationship with the UFO case discussed, and are therefore completely of no use to identify it. So what caused the closing for around an hour of the Xiaoshan Airport?

"No prosaic explanation can be formulated at present because the basic facts remain garbled", writes James Oberg at ATS. But he does offer a possible explanation.

According to Oberg, as also quoted by Tim Printy on the latest SUNlite, from the best one can extract from the many conflicting reports, apparently "an airliner coming in for landing around 8:40PM saw an UFO". From the orientation of the Hagzhou airport runway, one can assume the plane was heading to the airport from the southeast.

"If so, this meant the UFO hovering over the airport was to the northwest/west. A prime candidate was in the western sky that evening, Venus."

Could a confusion with Venus fool pilots and air controllers, closing an airport for an hour? "There are some historical analogs that may provide suggested avenues of genuine research", says Oberg. "Here's one that immediately comes to mind:" the case of Barnaul Airport in Russia back in 2001.

Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20140327141916/https://forgetomori.com/2010/ufos/ufo-over-hangzhou-china-a-long-expos/

Not only can the direction be matched, but the time of Venus's appearance at that time and place is almost the same as the time of UFO appearance...

In fact, I have always believed that the Hangzhou Xiaoshan UFO incident can be explained, and it does not involve aliens at all, so this post just asks how to debunk the CGI video, just want to learn whether there is a practical theory to deal with such a lack of basic information about the fake video

 

[Starflint]

you should have told us that earlier. if the photo/video is from a field then we can rule out window reflections.

i'm now thinking long exposure of "plane" and the 3 dots were cgi'd in.

I'm sorry that this is an oversight on my part, but you've already transferred some crucial information

 

[deirdre]

so this post just asks how to debunk the CGI video, just want to learn whether there is a practical theory to deal with such a lack of basic information about the fake video

well location helps. for example here, below, is a picture of the ISS in long exposure. the stars stay as dots (like your video). but if there are no stars at that location (over the Jiangdong Bridge from that angle) then cgi is likely. Not proven, but a likely explanation.

if your video is just a random tiktokker , they likely grabbed a long exposure photo they found on the internet and added the dots. so you can see if you find a matching photo minus the 3 dots.

 

[Starflint]

well location helps. for example here, below, is a picture of the ISS in long exposure. the stars stay as dots (like your video). but if there are no stars at that location (over the Jiangdong Bridge from that angle) then cgi is likely. Not proven, but a likely explanation.

if your video is just a random tiktokker , they likely grabbed a long exposure photo they found on the internet and added the dots. so you can see if you find a matching photo minus the 3 dots.
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It's a possibility, after all, the shape is similar but if you look at the video carefully, I think the glow from these UFO luminisers would indicate that they were at least low to the ground But usually the real night light source, its glare flares will change with the zooming and shaking of the camera, but it seems that the light emitted by the UFO in the video is still very stable even under the zooming and shaking of the camera. Look, this is where I am not professional, so I need to get a professional analysis The other three spinning and moving light balls, I think it's pretty obvious that they're animations

 

[deirdre]

But usually the real night light source, its glare flares will change with the zooming and shaking of the camera

really? can you provide some video evidence of this?

 

[jarlrmai]

Reminds me of this fake


Source: https://vimeo.com/135064694


That's often bundled with the photos of long exposure pictures of helicopters from this event and there's doubts over whether a series of long exposure helicopter shots from different places have just glommed onto this event over time, each time it gets retold

https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-07/10/content_10089831.htm

 

[Starflint]

really? can you provide some video evidence of this?

Here's some random streetlamp material I found:

New discovery, I slowed down the video to 0.1 times the speed, found that the first frame has a translucent black rectangular frame covering the UFO above, but only lasts a few frames, this is the evidence of fraud

 

[deirdre]

Here's some random streetlamp material I found:

ok i see what you are referring to. I do not see a difference with zoom, just with camera jiggle. but you are right under the lamp post, where as the plane is very far away.

note: it is obviously a long exposure of a plane, because it looks identical to long exposures of planes.. just saying i am not sure your idea would work on a distant light source.

this is the evidence of fraud

if you say so, then it must be true.

 

[FatPhil]

if you say so, then it must be true.

If there is as clearly-defined right and bottom edges to that darker region, absent a natural reason for such a rectangle to occur, I'd say it was pretty decent evidence of compositing, as it would have the hallmark of being an alpha-blend with a mostly-dark scene. And compositing would definitely be fraud.

 

[jarlrmai]

We've been over this before, but macroblocking is a thing in compressed images and can look weird in reencoded compressed images/videos

https://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia/term/blocking-artifacts#:~:text=A distortion that appears in,sequences or quick scene changes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macroblock

 

[FatPhil]

We've been over this before, but macroblocking is a thing in compressed images and can look weird in reencoded compressed images/videos

https://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia/term/blocking-artifacts#:~:text=A distortion that appears in,sequences or quick scene changes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macroblock

Firstly a caveat - this is a horribly tainted video, it's been through recompression, seemingly at different scalings. (Which is an absolute no-no. Anything that's had that done to it should just be filed in the cylindrical filing cabinet.)

However, this region does not look like it's macroblock related - it is way bigger than a macroblock (in the most recent encoding) and macroblock artefacts appear *because the macroblocks are independent of each other* - neighbouring blocks clash with each other - yet all of the macroblocks in the region appear to have coordinated their deviations. But as I said before, I'd like to see the right and bottom of region before nailing my colours to the mast.

 

[deirdre]

as it would have the hallmark of being an alpha-blend with a mostly-dark scene.

then wouldnt it be there in all frames? and not just the very first frame?

 

[Scaramanga]

there could be a reason depending on site and date. didnt twitter or one of the social media sites (maybe tik tok) used to be 8 seconds? or a certain phone took 8 secs of video?

apparently the initial xianoshan airport flap was back in 2010 (and the most popular photo does sort of resemble the OP..although uap experts deemed it photoshopped).

Even my extraordinarily basic and crappy 1 megapixel Samsung mobile from 2008 could take up to 5 minutes of video at a time. There are just way too many of these suspiciously short UFO videos....and naturally the question is that if the original video was longer and is simply curtailed by TiKTok or other constraints then why do we never see these videos posted anywhere else that doesn't have such constraints ?

I call this the 'my camera battery ran out' syndrome, as that's the guise it generally comes under and I have actually seen that excuse used a number of times.

 

[Mendel]

I call this the 'my camera battery ran out' syndrome, as that's the guise it generally comes under and I have actually seen that excuse used a number of times.

We always thought the UFOs are hiding in the Low Information Zone, and now you're suggesting there's a Low Battery Zone as well?

 

[FatPhil]

then wouldnt it be there in all frames? and not just the very first frame?

Something, be it a parameter to the alpha-blending, or the background levels (such as you might get from automatic exposure control) of one of the component images does indeed seem to be changing over time.

 

[deirdre]

Something, be it a parameter to the alpha-blending, or the background levels (such as you might get from automatic exposure control) of one of the component images does indeed seem to be changing over time.

is that a "yes?".

 

[Starflint]

then wouldnt it be there in all frames? and not just the very first frame?

Only the first frame lasts 0.6 seconds

 

[Starflint]

Firstly a caveat - this is a horribly tainted video, it's been through recompression, seemingly at different scalings. (Which is an absolute no-no. Anything that's had that done to it should just be filed in the cylindrical filing cabinet.)

However, this region does not look like it's macroblock related - it is way bigger than a macroblock (in the most recent encoding) and macroblock artefacts appear *because the macroblocks are independent of each other* - neighbouring blocks clash with each other - yet all of the macroblocks in the region appear to have coordinated their deviations. But as I said before, I'd like to see the right and bottom of region before nailing my colours to the mast.

I agree, the UFO actually started moving before 0.6 seconds, and the pixel macros around it moved again, but the black translucent rectangle did not move, and the edges seemed to be very flat until 0.6 seconds, so it did not look like a pixel macros

 

[deirdre]

and the edges seemed to be very flat until 0.6 seconds,

i dont see that in your gif you provided. the block immediately starts to disintegrate.

 

[Starflint]

I found the time and location information of this photo, and I wanted to confirm the model of the helicopter in the picture, but I couldn't find any data on the ADSB-ex website. Could it be because it's too old?：

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