HAARP and Chemtrails.

SR1419

Senior Member.
Not sure if this should be in the chemtrail forum or not as chemtrails are only tangentially discussed....but

I have been seeing more and more attention being paid to supposed "haarp rings" and there supposed effects on weather...often supposedly in conjunction with "chemtrails"

...its fascinating and yet scary that people just eat this up without serious questions...

They seem to be look at the edges of radar images in large scale composite images made up of many radar sites and claiming they are "haarp rings"

It is generating a significant following amongst the youtube herd

DutchSinse in the biggest purveyor but there are others as well:

http://www.youtube.com/user/dutchsinse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ6KPM0WpgM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/user/Outback4Me#p/u/0/1PX0sM1ctes


It seems like it should be fairly easy to debunk but I do not know anything about radar signatures...

Any thoughts?
 

Pogopoint99

Senior Member.
Here's a few quick points that jump out right away...

DutchSinse in the biggest purveyor but there are others as well:

http://www.youtube.com/user/dutchsinse

If Dutchsinse wants to show an increase in earthquake activity, perhaps he should have compared his results to historical data. Instead he spends 14 minutes proving, quite conclusively, that there is significant earthquake activity in areas where we would expect to find significant earthquake activity. I'll be sure to send him a note thanking him for pointing out the obvious.

At one point he predicts that there is going to be magnitude 6 quake on the west coast soon. Considering the US averaged about 7 magnitude 6 or higher earthquakes per yr. over the last 10 yrs, and there hasn't been one in 2011 yet, then yes, it's safe to say the US is due for a mag. 6 or higher quake.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/year/eqstats.php#table_us


This guy is claiming "chemtrail" grids, sprayed from non-commercial planes, are deflecting a large storm. He's saying they're non-commercial because their flight routes are not showing up on the planefinder.net website. Firstly, the crosshatch contrail patterns could have been created hours earlier by regular commercial planes that havee long since landed or left the map area. Secondly, planefinder.net and other flight tracking sites are very inaccurate.

I just compared the airspace off the coast of Florida near Jacksonville on both planefinder.net and flightaware.com. Planes are being tracked on one site that are not showing up on the other. One reason could be that they don't seem to track every airline. for instance, I doesn't look like planefinder.net tracks WestJet flights.

I just didn't have it in me to look at the last video.
 

Mick West

Administrator
Staff member
The last video seems just to be misunderstanding how the national radar image is an imperfect composite of several smaller images, and as such there will be boundaries between the regions.
 

Pogopoint99

Senior Member.
Considering the US averaged about 7 magnitude 6 or higher earthquakes per yr. over the last 10 yrs, and there hasn't been one in 2011 yet, then yes, it's safe to say the US is due for a mag. 6 or higher quake.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/year/eqstats.php#table_us

Ha! As if on cue. An hour before making the above post, the Aleutian Islands get hit with a 7.2

There you have it... conclusive proof that I have the ability to predict earthquakes. If only I could do the same with lottery numbers.
 
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