Germanwings Airbus Crash Conspiracy Theories

Whitebeard

Senior Member.
A Germanwings Airbus A320 has crashed in the French Alps whilst on route to Dusseldorf from Barcelona.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32030270

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525

News broke just over two hours ago from time of posting, and already I've seen things like this cropping up.
makes me sick, rescue teams have not even reached the crash site yet:mad:

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Whitebeard

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and here we go....
http://lunaticoutpost.com/showthread.php?tid=527861&pid=10071379#pid10071379
 

Hevach

Senior Member.
I could try to make some "outlandish" conclusions...but, look at the nationalities they say were on the flight...Germans, Spanish, Turkish. Do you know where that is going?

Why, no, no I do not...


Tweet from FR24 seems to cover pretty much 99% of the claims:

The path matched the previous (successful) run until the point where contact was lost. There's no deviation or diversion, just business as usual.


Of course, people are replying saying that no they don't match because this flight descended for ten minutes before contact was lost.

Because apparently real crashing planes are expected to magically teleport down to the ground from normal cruising altitude.
 

Trigger Hippie

Senior Member.
I was just looking at those flight paths. There is no mysterious deviation over mountains. All Most flights from Barcelona to Düsseldorf fly over the Alps.

Here's missing flight...

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...and some previous flights (BER8565, GWI9529, VLG1894).

1BER8565-March23.png 1GWI9529-March23.png 1VLG1894-March24.png
 
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Whitebeard

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Because apparently real crashing planes are expected to magically teleport down to the ground from normal cruising altitude
Last week I watched a documentary on the Air France 447 crash, that took 3 and a half minutes to fall 38,000, and that was in what was effectively free fall, tail first after stalling. It's obvious even if the crew had little or no control, if the plane was still in one piece and still had all its aerodynamics intact the descent could have taken longer.
 

Efftup

Senior Member.
Just an interested question here.
Why DO the flights loop up the way they do instead of going straight?
I know that straight on a flat map is not REALLY straight of course, we are so used to seeing a flat map we forget they are projections (which is why Greenland looks so huge on a world map).

Is there some other reason though, such as not wanting to fly over built up areas until they have built up a bit of height, hence going out to sea, and THEN taking a straight route which happens to go over the alps?
 

Whitebeard

Senior Member.
some more wild speculation gleaned from various comment sections
(both from Russia Today)
 

cloudspotter

Senior Member.
Just an interested question here.
Why DO the flights loop up the way they do instead of going straight?
I know that straight on a flat map is not REALLY straight of course, we are so used to seeing a flat map we forget they are projections (which is why Greenland looks so huge on a world map).

Is there some other reason though, such as not wanting to fly over built up areas until they have built up a bit of height, hence going out to sea, and THEN taking a straight route which happens to go over the alps?

I see Barcelona has a runway which points out over the Med, I'd assume they just carry on the way they're heading when they take off with a gentle turn towards their destination
 

Hevach

Senior Member.
Yeah, that plane is a long way from CERN. If the LHC had anything to do with it, we would have seen thousands of airplanes crash over the last five days, with the highest incident being around Geneva, not 180 miles south.
 

Mick West

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Attached are the last 8 days of that flight in Google Earth format. All but one take about the same path, and the one that does not diverges in the other direction.

Here's the crash flight. Looks like a gradual descent over about ten minutes, starting at the coast.
 

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TEEJ

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It didn't take the chemtrail believers long to post about Germanwings and Lufthansa. Germanwings is one of the budget carriers on their hit list.

https://www.facebook.com/TELEGRAPH.CO.UK/posts/10153183402689749

I expect that the following will be doing the rounds on the chemtrail websites in relation to this tragedy? Video footage with close-ups of the pylon drains on a Germanwings Airbus. The registration D-AG.. makes this an A319.

 

Spectrar Ghost

Senior Member.
Predicted by who, exactly? The article doesn't really make that clear, though it does go into some excellent reasons not to be spraying gunk into the air with respect to engine failures. Too bad he avoided the next link in the chain there...
 

BombDr

Senior Member.
OMG! You mean planes don't just fly in straight lines? It's almost as if they are on 'paths' to deconflict them and almost as if they are taking into account of the earths curvature and most favourable conditions.....!

Why would anyone choose to fly several tens of thousands feet over mountains when they can fly tens of thousands of feet over flat land? They will be flying over oceans next! Fools!!!

Sarcasm aside, why is it that they cannot at least restrain their outrage and google their rhetorical and ill-informed questions or observations as to why planes do not fly in straight lines or skirt around mountains, even if they are thousands of feet below them....?
 

occams rusty scissor

Senior Member.
Sarcasm aside, why is it that they cannot at least restrain their outrage and google their rhetorical and ill-informed questions or observations as to why planes do not fly in straight lines or skirt around mountains, even if they are thousands of feet below them....?
Answer that and you'll solve nearly all the reasons for unnecessary conspiracy theories.
 

Efftup

Senior Member.
I see Barcelona has a runway which points out over the Med, I'd assume they just carry on the way they're heading when they take off with a gentle turn towards their destination
That makes sense. So unless wind makes them take off in the other direction they will take that route. If they take off east to west they will have to do a bigger loop round
 

MikeC

Closed Account
I expect some comments along the lines of "Where's the wreckage - there's not a plane there!!" sooner or later:rolleyes:

 

Graham2001

Active Member
The claims in the OP are more the product of a lack of understanding of airline operations and flight paths, however I have seen plenty of nonsense in the comments page for the AVHerald account of the accident:

and

http://avherald.com/h?comment=483a5651&opt=0
 

Strawman

Senior Member.
Once again, the pattern seems to be conspiracy theorists comparing an exceptional case (in this case: an apparent accident) against a norm they have set up themselves (in this case: the claim of the flight path being exceptional). With this kind of methodology, they will always successfully arrive at "contradictions" and "strange occurrences".
[It's similar with chemtrails: clouds/contrails never looked like this, contrails dissolve within a few minutes, etc. Or 9/11: "Looks like a controlled demoliton!", or Boston: "Why would people behave this way or that way? Can't be normal!"]
 

Henk001

Senior Member.
Hasn't any CT'er noticed that this plane came from Barcelona and crashed near the french town called Barcelonette?
That can't be a coïncidence;)
 
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Strawman

Senior Member.
Hasn't any CT'er noticed that this plane came from Barcelona and crashed near the french town called Barcelonette?
That can't be a coïncedence;)
That has not gone unnoticed, of course. I've already seen it mentioned at a German CT forum.
 

tadaaa

Senior Member
Once again, the pattern seems to be conspiracy theorists comparing an exceptional case (in this case: an apparent accident) against a norm they have set up themselves (in this case: the claim of the flight path being exceptional). With this kind of methodology, they will always successfully arrive at "contradictions" and "strange occurrences".
[It's similar with chemtrails: clouds/contrails never looked like this, contrails dissolve within a few minutes, etc. Or 9/11: "Looks like a controlled demoliton!", or Boston: "Why would people behave this way or that way? Can't be normal!"]

yes - it is almost as if they "freeze frame" the event - then look for the inevitable inconsistencies (which are usually cleared up / explained by later investigation)

but by then it is too late, any subsequent explanation is discarded as an attempted cover up etc etc

and they get their self-fulfilling prophecy - a conspiracy
 

Whitebeard

Senior Member.
That has not gone unnoticed, of course. I've already seen it mentioned at a German CT forum.
They are also picking up on the fact another plane came down in the same area in 1953
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_178
http://govtslaves.info/germanwings-...ir-disaster-in-french-alps-near-barcelonette/
 

Whitebeard

Senior Member.
and some 'gems' of illogical conclusion jumping from the David Icke forums


Just a few highlights... some of them seem quite humorous until you realise how seriously the Ickers take themselves :(
 

Spectrar Ghost

Senior Member.
Proof by numerology is always fun. Of course the A320 is 123' 3" long, not 111' - that's the A319. And the wingspan of D-AIPX was 117' 5", not 111' 11", as the aircraft had sharklets on the wingtips. Also I have to believe Attis has seen a decline in worship in the last, oh, 1500 years, but otherwise spot on.
 

Trailblazer

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Staff member
and some 'gems' of illogical conclusion jumping from the David Icke forums

...

And never mind that 2014 was widely reported to be the safest year in aviation history.

All the same this was an unsettling thing to be seeing on the TV screens halfway through a week's skiing holiday in the Alps :(
 

Efftup

Senior Member.

derwoodii

Senior Member.
CT claims of why no fuel fire ?? seem to not able see the smoke blackened rock gully's and burnt vegetation
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TWCobra

Senior Member.
I saw this on Max's page. There were literally hundreds of aircraft within the same range to CERN as the Germanwings A320. Some were overflying it.

The suggestion is ludicrous.
 

CeruleanBlu

Senior Member.
I saw this on Max's page. There were literally hundreds of aircraft within the same range to CERN as the Germanwings A320. Some were overflying it.

The suggestion is ludicrous.


What makes it even more so is the fact that it hasn't been turned back on as of yet due to mechanical issues.

http://www.nature.com/news/cern-battles-short-circuit-behind-lhc-delay-1.17186

But when it comes to conspiracist mindset, I doubt the fact that it isn't operating yet would hinder the TRUTH®. I mean, look at Dutch and the HAARP thing, even while closed it still is destroying the planet.

:rolleyes:
 
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Pete Tar

Senior Member.
Apparently the recovered CVR files are shedding some light on what might have happened......


I find "suicide-by-airplane" (IF it is indeed the case here) to be reprehensible.

Knowing about post-9/11 features (which I will not discuss in an open Forum)...makes this fully plausible....disgusting, but plausible.
*If* it was the case, in situations like that it's not suicide, it's mass-murder.
 

vonmazur

New Member
I just wasted an hour listening to some fellow on the radio, (the classical music station was having technical problems, so it was this or sports talk), Clyde Lewis, it was, and he had a fellow on who mostly agreed with him....They have decided that the German Wings crash was due to Cern and LHC, of course they did not account for all the other unaffected flights, many of which were a lot closer to Geneva. Apparently one of the passengers was an American Female with her child, who worked for a US Government mapping agency, of course, without anything like proof, they stated that she was killed deliberately along with all the others to cover some kind of geomagnetic effect of the LHC....I found this very much in bad taste to say the least...Less than 48 hours after the crash, such persons are already coming up with the usual CT bunk, without a thought as to truth. They even connected this to the 1953 crash nearby, and claimed it was due to Geo gravitational effects amplified by the LHC. Well, the LHC was not in existence in that year, among other things. I get the feeling that this host would believe almost any CT, as long as it fits his weltanshauung....I once turned this guy off after 20 minutes of contrail/chemtrail rants....I should have known better, but I was driving home and nothing else was on...

As an Aviator, I think the most likely cause was suicide by airliner crash, or by some kind of unusual failure, the other theories I have heard or read elsewhere are just too complicated or unsupported by any facts.
 

Hevach

Senior Member.
I mentioned it the other day, but... Magnetic fields do not work this way.

The LHC is 180 miles away, and had been on for five days when this happened. Thousands of planes passed through that radius without a problem, and hundreds were in the air at the moment this happened.

But before it could affect planes, the first thing it would cause is a power outage in the Geneva suburbs above the tunnels, possibly some computer damage. If it were strong enough to bring down a plane 180 miles away, it would have been crippling power grids in most of Switzerland and big chunks of France, Germany, Italy, and whatever countries in the area I forgot from high school geography (Austria I think?). The power outage would have been one of the largest ever.

Unless Doctor Doom just took over CERN, I think we're fine (dibs on the Avengers 4 idea).
 
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