Gap between contrails and engines

[Mick West]

Just added a new post to contrailscience.com:

http://contrailscience.com/how-big-is-the-gap-between-contrails-and-engines/

It was inspired by a YouTube message exchange from Harold Saive, in which he indicated he though this video was proof of spraying, becaue there was no visible gap between the engines and the contrails:

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This was the most "no gap" it gets:



There is a gap though, it's just very short, like this:


Plus the video is shot from a bit of an angle (nose to tail), so it looks even shorter.

 

[TWCobra]

The aircraft is an A380 with one of the longest, if not the longest wing chord of any aircraft. The gap is there, just difficult to see against the white of the wing. The chord at the wing root is over 17 meters.

 

[MikeC]

The chord of the A380 wing at the root is 17.7m - that is 3.2m more than the span of a single A320 wing!!

If you want to measure the chord at the engine stations there is a scaled drawing in this pdf you can figure it out from....

 

[Jay Reynolds]

I see that Saive has ripped off another video. The fellow he got it from has a nice setup and does legitimate photography. Here is the source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkrfZJjLw_4

Harold Saive has shown over and over that he isn't above anything to draw attention to this hoax, to him the ends justifies any means even if he has to cheat, lie or steal.

 

[Jay Reynolds]

I see that Saive has ripped off another video. The fellow he got it from has a nice setup and does legitimate photography. Here is the source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkrfZJjLw_4

Harold Saive has shown over and over that he isn't above anything to draw attention to this hoax, to him the ends justifies any means even if he has to cheat, lie or steal.

Harold Saive is reposting the same photos and I called him on the misattribution:


http://www.examiner.com/article/che...o-loud-booms-over-coastal-counties-of-florida

The photos Harold Saive shows here were ripped off of an aviation enthusiast's youtube video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkrfZJjLw_4

The planes are clearly identifiable commercial planes making contrails.

Ask yourself why Harold Saive has resorted to photoshoping an avaition hobbyist's photos of ordinary commercial planes making contrails to drum up support for the "chemtrails" hoax?

This sort of sophistry wouldn't be allowed at the Gainesville Sun. You would have been fired for such fakery, Harold. Shame on you. You know better but seem to have no conscience.

 

[Belfrey]

Several of my friends here in Gainesville did report hearing some loud "booms" (which sounded like sonic booms) on Thursday night. I didn't notice them. See http://www.gainesville.com/article/...theories-after-sonic-boom-rattles-Gainesville

I don't specifically remember what the skies looked like that day.

 

[Jay Reynolds]

From:

http://chemtrailsplanet.net/contrail-science-debunking-disinformation-and-obfuscation/

 

[Jay Reynolds]

Harold Saive has deleted my comment which debunked his claim. He couldn't argue with the facts but cannot avoid the debunking it which still stands. He has posted here before, and can still dispute the debunking, but likely won't.
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/contrai...and-obfuscation/comment-page-1/#comment-12853

 

[lotek]

They edit thumbs down too :| how classy