Fictional Conspiracy Shows.

David Fraser

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I just thought I would drop this here. At the start of the year we had a show called "Utopia" by Channel 4. It followed a group been tracked by NWO types and depopulation, MKUltra type programming etc. Channel 4 tends to make pretty grim TV and the violence is very stark and brutal. I don't know how many of you can access 4OD put give it a watch if you can

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/utopia/episode-guide
 

Alchemist

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There was this show... but it was taken off air.


The best conspiracy show was probably "Prison Break" ... that 1st season was probably the greatest of all time.

Also the X-Files spin off "Lone Gunman".. in the pilot episode which was shot in 2000 and aired in March 2001.. a faction within the government tied to an arms manufacturing corporation hijacks airliners via remote control access from the ground and aims at the world trade center to persuade people to ask for a war and increase arm sales.
 
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Cairenn

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The problem is that some folks decided that TV dramas are real. Back in the heyday of the soap operas, the stars would have ladies seeing them buying groceries or getting a bite to eat and they would come up and tell them, that "did you know that 'Ron' (their TV husband) is sleeping with your best friend?" or watch out for 'Brad', he is going to hire a hit man to kill you."

TV shows, movies and books (other than non fiction ones) are stories, they are fiction and they are designed to keep our attention and to entertain us.
 

Oxymoron

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Also the X-Files spin off "Lone Gunman".. in the pilot episode which was shot in 2000 and aired in March 2001.. a faction within the government tied to an arms manufacturing corporation hijacks airliners via remote control access from the ground and aims at the world trade center to persuade people to ask for a war and increase arm sales.
Kinda puts Nostradamus in his place doesn't it. :)

Amazing how these writers come up with such far fetched nonsense. Still its only fiction and coincidence after all.

No one in government or 'intelligence' had any idea that such a thing could happen.

Bojinka
 
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Mick West

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Kinda puts Nostradamus in his place doesn't it. :)

Amazing how these writers come up with such far fetched nonsense. Still its only fiction and coincidence after all.

No one in government or 'intelligence' had any idea that such a thing could happen.

Bojinka

I guess we'd better watch out for giant spaceships filled with shape shifting lizards then :)
 

Oxymoron

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I guess we'd better watch out for giant spaceships filled with shape shifting lizards then :)
Yep, as they say... "always expect the unexpected". :)

Of course it could always be something much more mundane such as depicted by 'Person of Interest'... Nah, the government spying on everyone with facial recognition software and massive data mining.... BombDr debunked all that in the Woolwich Knife Attack thread by stating the technology doesn't exist, and well he should know.
 

Pete Tar

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I'm not sure if these fit the definition or not. They are paranormal and involve government agencies.
The Prisoner would be a conspiracy, in that people conspire to keep a whole village isolated from the outside world.

Fringe.

Fringe follows the casework of the Fringe Division, a Joint Federal Task Force supported primarily by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which includes Agent Olivia Dunham; Dr. Walter Bishop, the archetypal mad scientist; and Peter Bishop, Walter's estranged son and jack-of-all-trades. They are supported by Phillip Broyles, the force's director, and Agent Astrid Farnsworth, who assists Walter in laboratory research. The Fringe Division investigates cases relating to fringe science, ranging from transhumanist experiments gone wrong to the prospect of a destructive technological singularity to a possible collision of two parallel universes. The Fringe Division's work often intersects with advanced biotechnology developed by a company called Massive Dynamic, founded by Walter's former partner, Dr. William Bell, and run by their common friend, Nina Sharp. The team is also watched silently by a group of bald, pale men who are called "Observers".

Warehouse13.

The series follows U.S. Secret Service Agents Myka Bering (Joanne Kelly) and Pete Lattimer (Eddie McClintock) when they are assigned to the secretive Warehouse 13 for supernatural artifacts.[7][16][17][18] It is located in a barren landscape in South Dakota, and they initially regard the assignment as punishment. As they go about their assignments to retrieve missing artifacts and investigate reports of new ones, they come to understand the importance of what they are doing.

The Prisoner.

The series follows a British former secret agent who is held prisoner in a mysterious coastal village resort where his captors try to find out why he abruptly resigned from his job. Although sold as a thriller in the mould of the previous series starring McGoohan, Danger Man (1960–68), the show's combination of 1960s countercultural themes and surreal setting had a far-reaching effect on science fiction/fantasy programming, and on popular culture in general.[4]
 

Cairenn

Senior Member.
I wonder why one poster wanted to use the existence of these shows as 'evidence' for there being real conspiracies like they portray?

Let's look at some Fiction both recent and classic.

In newer fiction, we can not ignore the Harry Potter series, does that mean that Hogwarts or an analogy of it is real? and that owls are used to carry messages? That would really foul up the NSAs spy program.

Then we have Pern, a world where telepathic dragons assist folks in preventing the destruction of the planet. And another one with dragons, Naomi Novik's world where dragons are used to fight the Napoleonic Wars. Or Mercedes Lackney's world of Valdamar with horse like and cat like avatars of the Gods and Godesses there. Or more Science Fiction, the world of 1632, where history is warped when a small chunk of West Virginia lands in southern Germany during the 30 years war.

Are you ignoring the creations of the past, Oz, Wonderland, Middle Earth, and even Never Never Land.

It is called IMAGINATION .
 

Whitebeard

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I know its an old thread but I've just discovered it. A couple I want to throw into the mix.

Primeval - A UK show about rips in time and space that seem to release dinosaurs onto the streets of London every week, and the mismatched bunch of scientists and the like who hunt them down. Theres a few levels of conspiracy on show here, Firstly there is the scientists and the government agency they work for covering up the incursions in the first place (complete with 'men in black; type spin doctors.) Then there's a cabal of insane environmentalists who are seeking to 'cleanse' the earth of the plague of humanity by stopping humans evolving in the first place. Finally theres the super secret government black project thats causing it all to happen in the first place. It's not high drama, but it is an enjoyable watch.

Babylon 5 - Lots of conspiracies here, every alien race in the show is conspiring with and against every other. Earth has a neo-fascist take over and has its very own MK Ultra type organisation with its own agenda.

Spooks - Another UK show that focused on the lives of some MI5 agents, and although the main thrust of the show was based around anti-terrorist operations. There also touched on conspiracy stuff like government dodgy dealing and cover ups, false flag operations, and the like.
 

rnippoldt

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I have heard many people speak about debunking. I have never seen a play about debunking. I think a play on stage (maybe at a conference) could show all the things a speech misses about changing one's mind.
 

Leifer

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How many more zombie film/tv shows can we have ?
It's ironic....zombies refuse to die..... and zombie films refuse to stop being made.
 

Leifer

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I wonder why one poster wanted to use the existence of these shows as 'evidence' for there being real conspiracies like they portray?
....like the over-use of the film idea, "teens with special powers"

Described..... one teen has the ability to throw fire, another has invisibility, another might have magical moving of objects... another might have sub-zero capabilities.....
.....eventually it just gets ridiculous.
 
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Leifer

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In fact... I created a running joke at work..... I will pretend to roll my hands up like I am making an imaginary ball of energy.... and throw it at my fellow employee...he or she will then pretend to fall over.
Obviously, they can do the same to me.
(it's always a good laugh, and lightens the day)
 

Leifer

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Besides all that..... if you examine all top movie/film plots...... nearly all of them involve some sort of conspiratorial plot.
....whether it be big government or big business or rotten cops..... the plot ideas are conspiratorial.
 
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Nada Truther

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I will pretend to roll my hands up like I am making an imaginary ball of energy.... and throw it at my fellow employee...he or she will then pretend to fall over.
Obviously, they can do the same to me.
(it's always a good laugh, and lightens the day)
Orrrrr... You really have these energy ball powers and you really are hurtling dangerous energy balls at your co-worker!!

Very unprofessional at work!!!
 

dc_hatman

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Besides all that..... if you examine all top movie/film plots...... nearly all of them involve some sort of conspiratorial plot.
....whether it be big government or big business or rotten cops..... the plot ideas are conspiratorial.
I’m scratching my head trying to find the conspiratorial plot in Titanic.

Hang on a minute...iceberg....Goldberg.....it was the Jews!!!
(I’m allowed to say this, I’m Jewish ).
 

Alexandria Nick

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Also the X-Files spin off "Lone Gunman".. in the pilot episode which was shot in 2000 and aired in March 2001.. a faction within the government tied to an arms manufacturing corporation hijacks airliners via remote control access from the ground and aims at the world trade center to persuade people to ask for a war and increase arm sales.
What's always got me about that one is that it wasn't as out of left field as people seem to want it to be.

Clive Cussler's Valhalla Rising (2001) involved a terror plot with a natural gas tanker being rammed into Lower Manhattan near the WTC.

Tom Clancy's Debt of Honor (1994(!)) ends/Executive Orders (1996) begins with an airliner suicide attack on the US Capitol during the State of the Union.

Prior art, and so on.
 

Leifer

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When I thumb-through the "most popular uploads/action" on Netflix...... nearly all of them are "action adventures" that involve some sort of governmental conspiracy.... where secret government "insiders" are the source of evil deeds.... and there is only one or two honest people than can undo the terrible malfunctioning system.
 

Leifer

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I was (un) fortunate enough to watch most of "Godzilla vs. Kong" 2020.
(I was ready for overly extreme effects and more than 3 climax resolutions.)
I correctly predicted it was going to have the usual post ric-rac plot...... "good monster is injured"....."bad monster hurt too" because a third more even evil monster arrives......and together they eliminate the ultimate evil.
 

Leifer

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I enjoyed seeing the high-res explosion graphics...... but there were too much.
..... and I fell asleep...... I literally fell asleep during the possible demise of humanity.
Shame on me, or shame on film-makers that desensitize such an idea.
I never thought that the end of the world could get boring.......... and it did.
 
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derwoodii

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i been watching 1960 The twilight Zone episodes and pretty much every CT idea i have come across is played out in the series story's. I can see now the source of so many beliefs.

Even found pre 1995 contrails in one episode

The Rip Van Winkle Caper, The Twilight Zone​


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Leifer

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I just thought I would drop this here. At the start of the year we had a show called "Utopia" by Channel 4. It followed a group been tracked by NWO types and depopulation, MKUltra type programming etc. Channel 4 tends to make pretty grim TV and the violence is very stark and brutal. I don't know how many of you can access 4OD put give it a watch if you can

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/utopia/episode-guide

Is it "teens with special powers ?
If it is..... it is just a very tired trend.
 
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Leifer

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I enjoyed seeing the high-res explosion graphics (splosions)...... but there were too much unnecessary graphics "splosions"
..... and really, I fell asleep...... I literally fell asleep during the possible demise of humanity. "splosions"
Shame on me, or shame on film-makers that desensitize such a "sploasion" idea.
I never thought that the end of the world could get mother fucking boring.......... and it did.
 
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FatPhil

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It would be too easy to gibber on inanely (see avatar) about infantalisation of the mass media generally. The scary thing is that the industry itself know that telling childrens stories with a glimpse of underboob and the occasional evisceration in order to make the movie "adult" is literally the biggest sucker of money from wallets that exists, and that's why it persists. Oh, and some angsty backstory.

(And that was "see avatar" as in "see my avatar", I'm forewarning you of my personality (and typing using superpowers as I gaaaaaaa), not "see Avatar" - a movie that is clearly not worth watching as there was absolutely no underboob on display. Ponytail sex, however - woof!)
 

Leifer

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And I'm throughoutly fleshed if I were revered. I like Chinese food.
 
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Mendel

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The anime In/Spectre is not a conspiracy series per se (its setting is urban fantasy), but the main plot involves the inserting of fake theories into the public discourse to achieve the protagonist's goals as a central theme.
 
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