Fake Snow.....What Happens To Old Theories....

Melbury's Brick

Senior Member.
Returned to this one to show how old conspiracies theories don't die....they just melt away (see what I did there). Check out most discussions/videos re. this subject and you find they are untouched over the past couple of months.
(This one had a major flaw ct-wise. It was actually open to physical testing by the average Joe and therefore relatively easy to discredit and was subsequently thoroughly debunked.) Question is....where are the thousands of arm waving, [ pp ], hysterical proponents of this nonsense now?
Will they be issuing a blanket "Sorry, we were a bit [wrong] there"?
I'm holding my breath.

Which other theories have the ct "stepped away" from? Which current ones will go the same way?
 
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Trigger Hippie

Senior Member.
I suspect the fake snow conspiracy got some traction because of the severity of this years winter. People further south who are not as acquainted with snow were exposed to it. Folks in Montreal and Edmonton shrugged their shoulders, rolled their eyes, and went back to shovelling their driveways. We might see it again next winter.

I think the Air Malaysia conspiracy will mostly fade away when the wreckage is found.
 

Mick West

Administrator
Staff member
I'm sure there are many people who believed the fake snow theory, but just shrugged their shoulders, and went back to shovelling through their Facebook feeds.

There are some people who labour under the weight of living in such a vastly complex and overwhelming conspiracy that minor things like flammable snow are just par for the course. They will continue to believe there was something up with MH370 for as long as they live.
 

moderateGOP

Active Member
Which other theories have the ct "stepped away" from? Which current ones will go the same way?

CTs like the Illuminati will live on forever in different/various forms. Though the fake snow theories are gone, Fake whatever else theories live on. It's part of the brain that does not want to believe that random chaotic events can happen in this world.

I remember before December 21, 2012, the CTs made up a whole story about Planet Nibiru. This is a fake planet created by YouTube videos. It was supposed to pass by Earth on that date and cause massive destruction. It does not exist under any official record. The reason for this CTs say is because the government hid the truth from us about impending doom. Some sites still claim the planet is coming or has come and we are all living in an alternate timeline or a matrix thing, but most have shrugged it off. I actually heard some CTs say they were wrong on the matter. So is there a slight bit of hope there? Who knows...

I don't really understand the difference between Planet Nibiru and Chemtrails. Why one disappears and one continues to live on.
 

Hama Neggs

Senior Member.
I'm sure there are many people who believed the fake snow theory, but just shrugged their shoulders, and went back to shovelling through their Facebook feeds.

There are some people who labour under the weight of living in such a vastly complex and overwhelming conspiracy that minor things like flammable snow are just par for the course. They will continue to believe there was something up with MH370 for as long as they live.

That's one thing I noticed with the "Planet X" thing- that a general meme comes to be in place in people's thinking and they have come to accept some general bunk as something "everybody knows". It's just that certain ideas have been circulated and repeated long enough to where they are just accepted as "fact". It's nearly impossible to get rid of those memes. They will live forever on the internet and in certain people's minds.
 

Hama Neggs

Senior Member.
CTs like the Illuminati will live on forever in different/various forms. Though the fake snow theories are gone, Fake whatever else theories live on. It's part of the brain that does not want to believe that random chaotic events can happen in this world.

I remember before December 21, 2012, the CTs made up a whole story about Planet Nibiru. This is a fake planet created by YouTube videos. It was supposed to pass by Earth on that date and cause massive destruction. It does not exist under any official record. The reason for this CTs say is because the government hid the truth from us about impending doom. Some sites still claim the planet is coming or has come and we are all living in an alternate timeline or a matrix thing, but most have shrugged it off. I actually heard some CTs say they were wrong on the matter. So is there a slight bit of hope there? Who knows...

I don't really understand the difference between Planet Nibiru and Chemtrails. Why one disappears and one continues to live on.

The Nibiru story/hoax is WAY more complex than that. There were only a few who pinned it to that specific date. The modern "Planet X" story was fueled, mainly, by Nancy Lieder and Zetatalk.com starting in the mid-late 90s. At one point around 2009 or 2010 she had stated that Dec 2012 was "too far out" and was government disinformation to get people not to plan for an earlier arrival of her planet. She and "Zetas" later backed off of that prediction/claim. Her story has not entirely gone away to this date. On her poleshift.ning site some people still publish crappy images of the sun showing lens flares Nancy declares to be her rogue planet, still on its way to ravage Earth.
 

moderateGOP

Active Member
The Nibiru story/hoax is WAY more complex than that. There were only a few who pinned it to that specific date. The modern "Planet X" story was fueled, mainly, by Nancy Lieder and Zetatalk.com starting in the mid-late 90s. At one point around 2009 or 2010 she had stated that Dec 2012 was "too far out" and was government disinformation to get people not to plan for an earlier arrival of her planet. She and "Zetas" later backed off of that prediction/claim. Her story has not entirely gone away to this date. On her poleshift.ning site some people still publish crappy images of the sun showing lens flares Nancy declares to be her rogue planet, still on its way to ravage Earth.

It's nowhere near the popularity that it was at the height of the 2012 CT theories. Mainstream alternative sites like Examiner.com and beforeitsnews are no longer talking about the possibility of such a planet existing. They were Dec 2012. I'm guessing Nibiru will become more popular closer to the next universally accepted date for the apocalypse. Which has yet to be found.
 

Melbury's Brick

Senior Member.
The Nibiru story/hoax is WAY more complex than that. There were only a few who pinned it to that specific date. The modern "Planet X" story was fueled, mainly, by Nancy Lieder and Zetatalk.com starting in the mid-late 90s. At one point around 2009 or 2010 she had stated that Dec 2012 was "too far out" and was government disinformation to get people not to plan for an earlier arrival of her planet. She and "Zetas" later backed off of that prediction/claim. Her story has not entirely gone away to this date. On her poleshift.ning site some people still publish crappy images of the sun showing lens flares Nancy declares to be her rogue planet, still on its way to ravage Earth.


Yep, Nancy is "out there" all right. "Nibiru" earlier arose thanks to Zechariah Sitchin and his "Twelfth Planet" theory. Debunked by a number of credible scientists/historians, Michael Heiser has this site which does a thorough job..........

http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/nibiru/nibiru.htm

Much store is put into Sumerian cylinder seal VA243 which Sitchin claimed depicts the Solar System plus one extra planet, Nibiru. What's not clear is how Leider's Nibiru and Sitchin's Nibiru are connected.


http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/VA243seal.pdf ........Is worth a read if you haven't seen it before.

One thing is clear....conspiracy theorists are more inclined to hang on to Sitchin's coat tails, rather than Nancy's, because he wrote a "historical" book about it.





 

George B

Extinct but not forgotten Staff Member
Rather interesting Thread. Me thinks we are talking about whether a Conspiracy gains "traction" or it doesn't. Those Conspiracies which have specified dates/deadlines either need to be re-dated, un-dated or they become cast aside by anyone with a rational thought process.
 

Melbury's Brick

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Joe

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I suspect the fake snow conspiracy got some traction because of the severity of this years winter. People further south who are not as acquainted with snow were exposed to it. Folks in Montreal and Edmonton shrugged their shoulders, rolled their eyes, and went back to shovelling their driveways. We might see it again next winter.

I think the Air Malaysia conspiracy will mostly fade away when the wreckage is found.
or The international team searching for the missing jet are now considering whether the plane LANDED somewhere instead of crashing into the Indian Ocean. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2610035/MH370-landed-not-crashed-Indian-Ocean.html You wonder why old conspiracies never die ?
 

WeedWhacker

Senior Member
I don't really understand the difference between Planet Nibiru and Chemtrails.

I can recall back in 2011/2012 (in the run-up to the Mayan "prophecy") where there were the 'out-there' claims that "Chem"trails were being
"sprayed" to "hide" Nibiru as it approached. :rolleyes:

Some of those people making that feeble "connection" may have been 'POEs', but it appeared many others actually believed such nonsense.

It does seem to be, after all, about wanting to believe.
 

moderateGOP

Active Member
Yep, Nancy is "out there" all right. "Nibiru" earlier arose thanks to Zechariah Sitchin and his "Twelfth Planet" theory. Debunked by a number of credible scientists/historians, Michael Heiser has this site which does a thorough job..........

http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/nibiru/nibiru.htm

Much store is put into Sumerian cylinder seal VA243 which Sitchin claimed depicts the Solar System plus one extra planet, Nibiru. What's not clear is how Leider's Nibiru and Sitchin's Nibiru are connected.


http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/VA243seal.pdf ........Is worth a read if you haven't seen it before.

One thing is clear....conspiracy theorists are more inclined to hang on to Sitchin's coat tails, rather than Nancy's, because he wrote a "historical" book about it.

I read Stichin when I was about 13 years old and thought it was the most amazing thing ever...Until I found this site some years later.
 

Melbury's Brick

Senior Member.
from....

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternativ...my-own-video-demonstration-video-2886926.html

....and blah....blah....blah....


to.....

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternativ...will-surprise-you-video-and-pics-2887074.html

but.....

Jesus! I thought an apology was coming for a moment!
That's why conspiracy theories perpetuate. The effects are still there even when they've been disproven.....they just morph into a different theory.
 

Hama Neggs

Senior Member.
from....



Notice how she doesn't explain, in any scientific manner, what she is saying is "normal". It's as if she is saying that snow which won't melt is normal. There are so many people who can't speak in any sort of precise manner or process information in any sort of critical manner. It's sorta hopeless, even trying to converse with them. It's as if they speak a different language.
 

Milen Borisov

New Member
I'm guessing Nibiru will become more popular closer to the next universally accepted date for the apocalypse. Which has yet to be found.
Well the Niburians are going crazy at it again in 2016. The new date is somewhere between 2016/2017, they were saying March but since March is right around the corner they started changing the date to April/September or early 2017. I really can't understand what keeps them going. The thing that scares me in all of this is the religious people going full on doomsday mode talking shit like " May our heavenly Father,and,our LORD JESUS CHRIST,who live and reign forever and ever,be with you always as he comes to punish the sinners. " Those people are scarier than the idea of a planet crashing into Earth. When i'm walking outside i am always prepared for some dude to jump out whisper "The end is nigh" and then stab me because i am not a believer therefor i'm a spawn of the devil. :(
 
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