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Q: one of the things I wanted to mention, a few weeks ago there was this long marathon room that Eric Weinstein had created, concerning the New York Times article and the run-up to the DNI report
and, you know, there was maybe upwards of a thousand people in this room, Lou,
and there were a lot of folks that were, like, heads of astrophysics departments, and a lot of folks from the academy, scientists,
and I noticed that the scientific community (in some instances) is having a rough time metabolizing these kind of changes
and this new information that has really started to come out since december 2017 when AATIP was revealed and when you came out
one of the things that the scientists are suggesting is that the data that's in the public sphere is just so limited, and it's just fuzzy blurs, and there's never really been an exhaustive analysis of the data
and I just wanted to ask you, when you were part of AATIP, could you speak to the number of analysts and scientists and the kind of kinds of minds that you had access access to and analyzing this information, just to kind of set the record straight, because ...?
24:54
Luis: yeah, well, first of all let me say empirically that the videos that you see now are probably some of the least compelling videos that we had access to
these are the ones that could be released fairly easily because they didn't provide any sources or methods
but we've got videos that are that are extraordinarily compelling
and the fact that congress is now taking this seriously should be an indicator that that these videos have been provided to some of those members
so if you're looking at just a couple (you know) fuzzy grainy videos, and you're trying to make a conclusion off of that,
I hate to say it, but you're mistaken, that was never the intent of those videos
those videos were just provided to get the conversation going,
so you knew that your government was looking at this topic,
it was never intended to be like, aha, there's the silver bullet
no, that's the "aha, there's the silver bullet" that we're taking it seriously
but there's other videos that are far far far more more
that have much more fidelity
25:55
Q: can you describe those videos?
Luis: I got to be careful, you know, because I don't want to reveal sources and methods
I have not -- the government has not released those videos yet
for whatever reason that they have
and so therefore, you know, I have to honor that,
but there are far more compelling videos
and yes, we had an entire inter-agency (if you will) group of people
that were dedicated into trying to to figure this this out
this was a a very significant issue
and those people are still looking at this topic
so again, you know, I want to be careful, and warn people, look,
if you're just looking at a couple videos online, you're probably missing the point
there's much more to this, and I think that's what, you know, ultimately, what we're trying to do here
and the government has become increasingly forthcoming
so the good news is that it's working, you know
again i have to be careful,
but we had members from the entire intelligence community that were looking at these videos and providing the necessary expertise
and they've all said the same thing,
that these things are real, and we don't know what they are
they're not artifacts of the camera
they're not a some sort of weird anomaly, weather anomaly, these are real things
and these are real things that are in our our atmosphere and that we can record and we can measure
and that's where we are right now with this conversation
like i said before, look, we're not at the beginning of the end of this conversation
we're probably at the beginning of the beginning,
and I know that's frustrating for a lot of people
but you know again part of the problem is that in the community, the ufo community
they've kind of set themselves up for failure
because they have for whatever reason come up with these narratives, you know,
preconceived narratives of what this is about
and the fact that it's not falling neatly within some of those narratives, you know,
is creating a little heartburn for some folks
and what my recommendation would be
is to just, you know, sit back, relax, settle down for a little bit
and, you know, let let the conversation happen
this is not instant gratification and about satisfying people's idle curiosity
this is a conversation that includes national security
this is a conversation that includes perhaps one of the greatest enigmas that our our species has has faced since since we crawled out of the cave
