Drones-like lights Filmed from Moving Car Using Near-IR

[BlackHoleNFO]

NJ Drone hunting in 4K with prepared Cam:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZEkkIGPrrU

0:00 First sighting in Chester Township [6:35pm]
1:07 First chase slowed 50% zoomed 200% in Chester Township [6:35pm]
2:07 Hillsborough silent aircraft (no flight radar) [9:05pm]
2:30 Likely commercial airliner in landing pattern [7:53pm]
2:51 Commercial airliner in landing pattern [8:10pm]
3:00 Hovering drone over I-80 in Rockaway [7:45pm]
4:01 Unknown if stationary drone or landing commercial airliner (rt 287 near Morristown) [7:47pm]


Saturday night (8th December) we headed out armed with a near-infrared modified Canon R5 shooting in 8k. This was paired with a 50mm f0.95 starlight lens. The goal was to capture enough light to be able to silhouette the body of the drones against the sky behind for model identification.The first shot was the clearest and closest we got to one, though we confirmed a few more suspect sightings that evening further away shown in the other clips.

For reference clips at 2:32, and 2:58 we're landing aircraft, I left these in here to show how similar these drones can look when you're not close enough to get a good reference point.

The first chase shown in the video was of a drone 10miles south west of Picatinni Arsenal, hovering almost silently over Chester Township in Northern New Jersey and was slowly flying north east in the direction of the military base. Google maps link of the location this clip begins recording at: https://www.google.com/maps/place/2...yNyw0NzA4NzExOCw0NzA4NDM5Myw5NDIxMzIwMEICVVM=

It was hard to gauge the sound it made while hanging out the window of the car, however, I can say it definitely was not a conventional helicopter, as this would have been far louder at this close range.

We saw two more hovering over the highway driving back which I tried to record, unfortunately, this was shooting through tinted windows and I lost a lot of light needed to silhouette the body of the crafts against the sky.

Clip at 3:09 was a confirmed hovering drone.One of these was over highway 80 near Denville, and the other was over highway 287 near Morristown.

Another drone is shown flying completely silently over Hillsborough, we only just caught this as it was flying off, but this one had no sound whatsoever, dead silent. This one seems to resemble a cesna in profile but flight radar didn't show any marked aircraft at the time.Note that in all cases (excluding clips at 2:32, and 2:58) where the vehicle was identified to be hovering we weren't able to match it to any marked craft of flight radar.

[... off-topic and dangerous suggestions removed]

 

[Mick West]

Great footage and info. So you think this first one is a drone?

 

[Mick West]

Slightly more precise location/heading. After you take a right you come to this stop sign.

Which is here:https://www.google.com/maps/@40.774589,-74.6575431,3a,75y,4.96h,92.11t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s9b-6qo7SLdMLxRtMUbYW4A!2e0!6shttps://streetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com/v1/thumbnail?cb_client=maps_sv.tactile&w=900&h=600&pitch=-2.1107867690095645&panoid=9b-6qo7SLdMLxRtMUbYW4A&yaw=4.960053972719862!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIwNC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw==

On a road facing North.

40.774589,-74.6575431 Dec 8 2024, 6:35PM EST (23:35 UTC)

This really looks like a plane to me. How did you rule that out?

 

[BlackHoleNFO]

Hi,
at first it is related to the New Jersery seeings, near Morristown (they wrote in Description.)
i marked the positions on google maps as well to figure out.

i dont checked the FlightApp, dont know how to use it.
i just open it to watch the position and date/ time...may it will take a while.

Could be:

EJA788
JSX870

or a

Gulfstream G550
N/A flight sign


I think the first one is this effect filming a moving object by self moving.
This could be also an Airplane it hink i see a dark tail.

I admit that it's hard for me to categorize this exactly. maybe i should download it.

Later 02:33, the mostly symmetric 4 lights could be a quadcopter.
i think they mixing the objects together.

 

[Mick West]

There seem to be several planes in the area, and I don't think we have a good enough time sync to easily narrow it down.

 

[flarkey]

There seem to be several planes in the area, and I don't think we have a good enough time sync to easily narrow it down.

Looking Northeast from that crossroads at18.35 EST = 23.35UTC on Saturday 7 December..... that can only be one plane...

 

[jarlrmai]

Video says 7th on Sat, then 8th which is Sunday..

But it was probably the 7th

 

[flarkey]

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Video says 7th on Sat, then 8th which is Sunday..

video was published early on Sunday 8th, (https://mattw.io/youtube-metadata/)

"publishedAt": "2024-12-08T06:07:40Z",

... so it must have been recorded Saturday 7th.

 

[jarlrmai]

Cool just pointing out the confusion in the YT description.

 

[FatPhil]

Cool just pointing out the confusion in the YT description.

The presumption that they were drones happened before they even left home: "The goal was to capture enough light to be able to silhouette the body of the drones against the sky behind for model identification.".

 

[MapperGuy]

Oops... Originally posted in the wrong thread.

Understanding your equipment and your target always helps.

For these people first I would suggest sometimes STOP THE CAR. You say the object is hovering, but since the car is moving that can be hard to tell. Stopping the car, even briefly, would help to gauge the objects speed. All of those nice branches along the line of sight would make it easy to see movement. Of course as a drone it can both move and hover, but demonstrating actual hovering is another data point.

They also need to add another tool to their collection, an ordinary smartphone with an optical zoom. It will probably only capture the objects lights, but zooming in on the object would help identify the number, color and arrangement of lights on the object. Every bit of data helps. Don't stay zoomed in all the time of course, zoom back to capture the environment (and match the video with that from the IR enabled phone), and by providing an example of what the object looks like in an ordinary camera you are helping others understand what their smartphone captured. And maybe stopping a panic.

Somebody needs to create an on-line course on how to chase UAP's...

 

[BlackHoleNFO]

Interesting research.

This is also a Airplane, i see green blinking lights and they are 3 blinking lights.
At first i wasn't sure because the rectangle format of lights...i thought its quadcopter.

So i think thats all Airplanes.

Got a little tutorial on this lights:
https://pilotinstitute.com/airplane-lights/

Successfully debunked?

 

[Mendel]

the rectangle format of lights...i

it's not a rectangle
the "sides" aren't even parallel

 

[Duke]

To put this in perspective, notice Chester Twp, NJ is only 40-50 airmiles due west of La Guardia Airport with Newark Airport between them. And about ten miles south of LGA is JFK Airport. You'd expect lots of commercial flights illluminated for landing on approach to all of those airports going over Chester Twp.

 

[jarlrmai]

Oops... Originally posted in the wrong thread.

Understanding your equipment and your target always helps.

For these people first I would suggest sometimes STOP THE CAR. You say the object is hovering, but since the car is moving that can be hard to tell. Stopping the car, even briefly, would help to gauge the objects speed. All of those nice branches along the line of sight would make it easy to see movement. Of course as a drone it can both move and hover, but demonstrating actual hovering is another data point.

They also need to add another tool to their collection, an ordinary smartphone with an optical zoom. It will probably only capture the objects lights, but zooming in on the object would help identify the number, color and arrangement of lights on the object. Every bit of data helps. Don't stay zoomed in all the time of course, zoom back to capture the environment (and match the video with that from the IR enabled phone), and by providing an example of what the object looks like in an ordinary camera you are helping others understand what their smartphone captured. And maybe stopping a panic.

Somebody needs to create an on-line course on how to chase UAP's...

The main reason you also want a smartphone is for verifiably accurate date and time stamped video in order to cross reference against flight trackers, planes move very fast so accurate time is essential.

 

[FatPhil]

The main reason you also want a smartphone is for verifiably accurate date and time stamped video in order to cross reference against flight trackers, planes move very fast so accurate time is essential.

That's a little too close to pushing the responsibility of proof onto the debunker. If there's a mundane explanation within the bounds of a sloppy report of a sighting, then it should be the sloppy reporter's job to prove that it can't be the mundane explanation that's likely true. It's not our job to have slam dunk disproofs of everything, it should be enough to simply show that their evidence is not good enough to support their interpretation as more likely than a mundane explanation. That, and training them to expect slam dunk debunks forces us towards becoming their performing monkeys.

 

[jarlrmai]

I am advising reporters of the information they would need to get for the case to rise above that level.

But yes Metabunk is often a victim of it's own success.