Debunking the Space Preservation Act 2001 which mentions "Chemtrails"

Mick West

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It's explained here:
http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/

One of the more pervasive myths regarding “chemtrails” is that 2008 presidential hopeful Dennis Kuchinich tried to have them banned by an act of congress, but was pressured by the government to modify the act to remove the mention of “chemtrails”.

So what really happened? In a nutshell, Kucinich did not write the bill (or read it, until too late), the focus of the bill is nothing to do with chemtrails, it was written by UFO enthusiasts Alfred Webre and Carol Rosin, who were trying to:

  1. Nullify a vast conspiracy by the “military-industrial complex”
  2. Allow the use of suppressed alien technology for free energy
  3. Avoid accidentally shooting down (or scaring away) visiting aliens.
They listed a bunch of weird weapons, including mind control, tectonic weapons and (very briefly) chemtrails. The bill was re-written several time in less unusual language to give it chance of passing, but ultimately fizzled in committee.

The specific act was HR 2977, the “Space Preservation Act of 2001″, the stated goal of which was:

“To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.”​

The initial version of the act is the only one that makes mention of “exotic weapons systems”, listing several technologies that will be familiar to conspiracy theorists:

(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;
(ii) chemtrails;
(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.​

Yes, it even includes “extraterrestrial weapons”, meaning weapons created by aliens (or created from alien technology from crashed flying saucers at Roswell), as well as psychotronic (mind control) weapons. Yet somehow “chemtrails” gets all the attention here.

Who wrote this? The original language for the bill was actually created by Alfred Webre and Carol Rosin. See, from Webre’s web site:

http://www.exopolitics.com/

With Dr. Carol S. Rosin and many others, [Webre] is a co-architect of the Space Preservation Act and the Space Preservation Treaty introduced to the U.S. Congress by Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) to ban space-based weapons.​

And also

http://www.exopoliticsinstitute.org/advisory-board-PP&M.htm#Webre

With others, Webre is a co-architect of the Space Preservation Treaty (www.peaceinspace.org ) and the Space Preservation Act that was introduced to the U.S. Congress by Congressman Dennis Kucinich and is endorsed by over 270 NGO’s worldwide.

Webre and Rosin started an organization called the “Institute For Cooperation In Space“, an organization whoseprimary purpose is to promote adoption of the Space Preservation Act. The ICIS states on its web site in part:

Humanity is on the threshold of a quantum leap in consciousness and endeavor.We must now take action to preserve this grand opportunity by preventing the weaponization of space.

We have a critical choice – to explore the great unknown of outer space or to risk continued suffering and disasters, devastation or obliteration. We can rise above different perspectives and actions that didn’t, don’t, and won’t cause second order change, actions that recognize our high consciousness and human potential applied with out-of-the-box thinking and intention to cause second order change, or we can continue the status quo of protesting the old and accepting the same that would only lead us to more violence instead of peace.​

The whole site has a very “new-age” feel to it. Seemingly if only this act is passed, the military-industrial complex will turn from its warlike ways, and humanity will enter a new age of cooperation, progress and raised consciousness. The rationale for a weapons ban is never clearly explained. Nor is it explained why having weapons in space will prevent normal research and exploration of space. Obviously we would all like to see less deadly weapons floating over our heads, but is a total ban vital to the next stage of human evolution? ICIS seems to think so.

Indeed, when you talk about things in simple terms, an “international ban on weapons in space” sounds like a great idea. Like a ban on chemical weapons, it saves money and makes the world a safer place. So it’s not hard to get people to support such a ban.

The more well-known face of the ICIS, is Carol Rosin. Rosin claims that in 1974 rocket scientist Werner Von Braun told her “Carol, you will stop the weaponization of space”, and described to her a vast conspiracy by the military-industrial complex to raise a series of fears to justify space-based weapons. Since then, Rosin has dedicated her life to exposing this conspiracy, and allowing humanity to expand it’s consciousness into space.Here’s a video of her explaining this.

The video shows Rosin speaking at “The Disclosure Project“, an organization working to “disclose the facts about UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence, and classified advanced energy and propulsion systems.” Rosin herself only briefly touches on this in her speech, but it is clear she believes that the government has alien technology, and is withholding it from the people.The other board members on the ICIS are co-founder Alfred Webre, Brian O’Leary and Daniel Sheehan, all of whom are deeply involved with The Disclosure Project.

Rosin commented on the “chemtrail” changes in the Bill here:

http://www.nwbotanicals.org/mediawatch/kucinich.htm (http://archive.is/Q038l)

Comment
From Carol Rosin
rosin@west.net
1-28-2

Perhaps I can help correct some fuzzy information that is being spread about H.R.3616, the Space Preservation Act of 2002, and Congressman Dennis Kucinich.

This bill will only ban space-based weapons and the use of weapons to destroy or damage objects in space that are in orbit. It is NOT a bill to ban chemtrails and/or psychotronics or mind control devises or any specific weapons listed in the category of definitions in the original bill.

I’m not sure where that rumor started, but in any case, those definitional were only listed on the original bill for definitional purposes…to exemplify what space-based weapons might be deployed in space if the space-based weapons bill isn’t passed. Frequently bills are revised, and things like definitions are removed. No big deal. The legislation is in no way compromised. This Congressman and his legislation maintain their integrity and commitment to ban space-based weapons. It was never a bill to ban chemtrails or mind control technologies.​

So what’s Kucinich’s involvement in this? It’s difficult to say. Kucinich is anti-war, so perhaps that’s his motivation. He does have a lot of new-age, UFO-believing, friends, but he’s also running for president. When he was made aware of the nature of the “exotic weapons” language in the bill, it was re-written, and when questioned about it, he said

“I’m not into that. Understand me. When I found out that was in there, I said, ‘Look, I’m not interested in going there.'”​

Kucinich’s motivations are perhaps revealed by his speech to the house on May 18th, 2005, introducing a newer version of the bill:

“What has happened to our country? Why are we projecting fear and paranoia to such heights? Have we so lost our way and our faith that we are prepared to transform the heavens into hell? If the kingdom and the will of God is to be done on earth as it is in heaven, what is to happen when the United States takes nuclear fire up to the gates of heaven?
“Such an offense against humanity could bring the wrath of God upon this nation.”​

So Kucinich thinks that space based weapons will offend God, since space is close to heaven, and if you put nuclear weapons near heaven then God will be offended and bring his wrath against us.

If you actually ARE a conspiracy theorist, then all this will come as little surprise to you. You will already believe the government is covering up technology based on crashed UFOs. Yet HR2977 is constantly being mentioned solely to make the case that “chemtrails” are something the government is aware of. The reality is that they were simply given a passing mention in bill written by new-age UFO conspiracy theorists and sponsored by an eccentric politician, all of who believe in things that are far more unusual than “chemtrails”.

[UPDATE] Webre, one of the authors of the bill, has moved beyond UFOs to time travel, and recently supported the rather extreme claim that the CIA predicted presidential election by using time travel to get a copy of Webre’s book from the future. This from his blog exopolitics.com

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopol...-by-secret-darpa-cia-time-travel-program.html (http://archive.is/qtyvV)

Mr. Basiago revealed that Project Pegasus was able to identify Jimmy Carter, who was then Governor of George, in 1971, as a future U.S. President. The program was in possession of a copy of the Universe Books edition of Exopolitics: Politics, Government and Law in the Universe by Alfred Lambremont Webre, a book that this reporter would not write until 2005, but which bears a quote on its front pages of a statement made by President Jimmy Carter.

According to Mr. Basiago, Mr. Webre’s book Exopolitics was, among other written works, physically retrieved from the future by Project Pegasus and brought back in time to 1971 or a prior time. At that time, 1971, Mr. Webre was General Counsel of the New York City Environmental Protection Administration and had been placed under time travel surveillance by the U.S. government.


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Mick West

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It's fully referenced. Click the links. Both Webre and Rosin admit they wrote the proposed act. Kucinich never spoke about it ever.
 

WeedWhacker

Senior Member
Kucinich never spoke about it ever.

Yes, and also (I first saw this debunked many, many years ago...elsewhere), it is what I personally would call a sort of "red herring". In the sense that it is a bit deceptive, when some online sources who claim it to be so-called "proof" still continue to cite it.

I think, overall, it was a huge embarrassment for Rep. Kucinich, and certainly torpedoed any future hopes he might have had a run for the Presidency, again. NOT because of any alleged "secret revelations", but because certain members of his staff acted without his direct consent.

<<Place holder>> Today in the car (10 April, 2014 at ~2030 UTC, on an L.A. station KCRW 89.9) I heard a relevant story on NPR, the show called "To The Point". There was an interview with David Keith, among others, on the topic of Climate Change, and any possible solutions....NONE of which (solutions) have yet been implemented.

I am waiting for the Podcast version to be published, in order to link to it.........
 

Mick West

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That fact that he even mentioned the word "Chemtrails" just goes to show doesnt it..

It goes to show that the people who write the bill had heard of the chemtrail theory.

They obviously did not really understand it though, as they were discussing "space based" weapons, which is totally unlike what people called "chemtrails" back then (trails that looked like persistent contrail)
 

WeedWhacker

Senior Member
That fact that he even mentioned the word "Chemtrails" just goes to show doesnt it..

I think that it's important to take a step back and understand that there is a HUGE misunderstanding in play, in using such a "generic" term as "chemtrail".

It has become a panacea of sorts....or, maybe a better term is "cornucopia"....(?)

ETA....but, in the common (current) vernacular, it is best described as an "Urban Myth"....or, more modern, "Urban Legend"?

There are many to choose from....Top 25 Urban Legends

(NOT to appear to be distracting from the topic, but it just is a fact that when a subject attracts attention, and then enough people begin to "believe" it, then that 'idea' tends to take on a "life" of its own!!)
 
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Melbury's Brick

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Debunk what? There is nothing to debunk. The word is there. It doesn't say "We're going to kit up every aircraft in the world and spray you all with stuff."
 
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