Debunked: "Tip Top" as a QAnon Clue from Trump [He's said it before]

Mick West

Staff member

In the recent media coverage of the "QAnon" conspiracy theory that followed some Q supporters showing up at a Trump rally, one of the pieces of evidence that the Q supporters gave on camera was the idea that Trump said "tip-top" because a Q made him do it.

This actually seems quite compelling as a sound bite on TV. There's the post on 4Chan with an anonymous user asking Q to work "tip-top" into a Trump speech, this is immediately followed with a clip of Trump saying "tip-top". There's even a bonus white rabbit (a reference to the "rabbit hole" in "red-pill" modern mythology).

But it all falls apart when you look at the actual context. Here's a timeline of Trump saying "Tip Top" (or "Tippy-top") and 4Chan/QAnon talking about it. Note the dates.

April 11 2016 - Speech at Red Hook Civic Association
Trump: "I’ve got the best people! The best! I mean, where do you get these people. I know where to find them. This country will be in tip top shape once I take over. I mean, I don’t know anything about running a country, but I’ve been pretty damn good about running my company. We’ve got the best company in American. I am worth billions of dollars!"​

Aug 12 2016 - Campaign rally in Altoona, Pennsylvania
Trump "everything was tippy-top, I like tippy-top, I like everything ... Everyone who goes to my buildings, my clubs, they're tippy-top! Right? Tippy-top"​

August 10 2017 - Remarks Following a Security Briefing and an Exchange With Reporters in Bedminster, New Jersey
Trump: "I want this, our nuclear arsenal, to be the biggest and the finest in the world. And we spent a lot of money, a lot of time, and a lot of effort. And it's in tip-top shape and getting better and getting stronger."​

Oct 11, 2017 - Remarks Prior to a Meeting With Prime Minister Justin P.J. Trudeau of Canada and an Exchange With Reporters
Trump: "We won't need an increase [in our nuclear arsenal], but I want modernization, and I want total rehabilitation. It's got to be in tip-top shape."​
January 29 2018 - Anonymous Post on 4CHan
Maybe Q can work the phrase "tip top" into the SOTU [State of the Union] as a shout out to the board?​

January 30, 2018 - State of the Union speech by Trump
[no mention of "Tip Top", but does mention the nuclear arsenal]​
"As part of our defense, we must modernize and rebuild our nuclear arsenal, hopefully, never having to use it, but making it so strong and so powerful that it will deter any acts of aggression by any other nation or anyone else. "​

April 2, 2018 - Remarks at the White House Easter Egg Roll
Trump: "Also, I want to thank the White House Historical Association and all of the people that work so hard with Melania, with everybody, to keep this incredible house or building or whatever you want to call it—because there really is no name for it; it is special—and we keep it in tiptop shape. We call it sometimes tippy-top shape. And it's a great, great place."​
April 2, 2018 21:03:57 - Q takes credit
It was requested.​
Did you listen today?​

Trump has used "tip-top" twice before in official remarks, and in both cases in reference to America's nuclear arsenal. At the State of the Union speech he would have been expected to talk about the nuclear arsenal, and it would have been entirely unsurprising if he used the same phrase as he had used before to describe the arsenal. In fact it's quite possible that the Anonymous poster had deliberate picked this phrase because he thought that Trump might use it. If, as most people suspect, Q is just a troll, then he quite possibly planted the "request", hoping Trump would repeat himself. As it happened he did not, so the request fell flat.

And then, two months later, Trump used the phrase at a random event, in a seemingly unscripted off-the cuff remark about the White House, and how clean Melania keeps it. He was simply using a phrase he uses occasionally, and will use again at some random time in the future that will then be seized up as being significant. But it's not.
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Mick West

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"Tippy-top" is also a phrase Trump has used before in similar context regarding nuclear weapons.
Metabunk 2018-08-11 15-55-06.jpg

And to describe buildings, like at this rally in Altoona, Pennsylvania, Aug 12 2016


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and at least reporters use it when describing maintenance (or lack of, which would bother Trump and stick in his head) to describe Mar-a Largo:


Cody M

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This is one of the conspiracies I've been hoping to see on here. A family member of mine will go on and on about Q and how America has no idea what is coming. For the entirety of this year I've been waiting for the "20,000 seal indictments" to be release and all the DC pedophiles and traitors to be put in prison in Gitmo, but it still hasn't happened.<--Another one of Q's prediction.
I am looking forward to more debunks of the Q conspiracy.


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Thank you for this one. I enjoy the debunking of a ufo story or bigfoot sighting, or something -- but this Qanon stuff is scary, and it is especially important to draw back the curtain to show a little bit of how they fool people.


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This is one of the conspiracies I've been hoping to see on here. A family member of mine will go on and on about Q and how America has no idea what is coming. For the entirety of this year I've been waiting for the "20,000 seal indictments" to be release and all the DC pedophiles and traitors to be put in prison in Gitmo, but it still hasn't happened.<--Another one of Q's prediction.
I am looking forward to more debunks of the Q conspiracy.
Q is what lured me into the rabbit hole of debunking conspiracy theories as a friend recently got pilled a few months ago. He brings up the sealed indictments all the time. So, apparently “they” are really taking their time unsealing them.

I know some of them are turning on Q and Trump bc they’re running out of patience. I’m curious if your friend is one of them.


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This "Q-proof" demonstrates a manipulation technique Q has often used. Q never acknowledges any of the requests for 'Q-proofs' in advance.
  1. Thousands of random posters on 4 chan/8kun ask Q to make Trump say or do things.
  2. Q does not comment on these requests and hundreds or thousands of requests get posted
  3. Eventually Trump says or does something that can be interpreted as meeting one of the requests
  4. Q takes credit
  5. Hype, causing even more Anons to post requests creating more opportunities for Q to falsely appear to have insider access
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