Debunked: Natural News - Boston controlled explosion exercise

Alhazred The Sane

Senior Member.
Bob Orr confirms the two Boston bombing suspects are brothers, confirms name of one suspect as Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. They're from somewhere south of Chechnya.
 

Pete Tar

Senior Member.
Wow.
So they weren't actually *wrong*, they were so right they forced the government to run an alternative scenario.
I don't know if the idea that they can hang themselves with their own words ('give them enough rope') applies, because they just seem to use the rope to make swings instead.
 

Soulfly

Banned
Banned
This one is being passed around -

http://www.local15tv.com/mostpopula...e-at-Start-Finish/BrirjAzFPUKKN8z6eSDJEA.cspx

The 'drill' aspect is considered suspicious, as it has been in other attacks.
This debunks itself since no bombs went off in seating areas.
 

Soulfly

Banned
Banned
I hope training like this can help both prevent an attack and/or help catch bad guys quicker and help save lives if one happens. I'm sure this happens more often than people think. They probably happen without the general public really noticing it took place or at least very few people. I'm not sure how preparation for a drill that was supposed to take place 2 months after the bombing means it is some how a clue to a false flag.
 

Nathan Folks

New Member
"Natural News" claims that there were suspicious exercises on the same day as the Boston Marathon bombings

http://www.naturalnews.com/039926_Boston_marathon_bombing_terrorism.html

No, really, it's not. The Library is directly opposite where the first bomb went off, hence "opposite the library", is the sidewalk, where the bomb exploded. Lots of people dropped their bags as they ran.

"Natural News" seems to be deliberately conflating the fire at the JFK Library with the controlled explosion opposite the public library. The tweets regarding the controlled explosion were:

(Times are Pacific, so 12:53 pacific is 3:53 Eastern, the bombing was at 2:50 Eastern, so these are about an hour after the bombing)




Obviously referring to the same thing, and simply clarifying the location.

Then AN HOUR LATER, they hear of the "explosion" at the JFK library:

(Notice it's not "The Library", which is what they call the main Boston Public Library, as you would expect).

And much later they note it seems to be just a fire:






(Above image via Reddit, not sure of the source, but the positions are accurate)

Natural News seems to basically just making things up to fulfill their preconceived idea of what happened.


THE TIME STAMP ON TWITTER FROM THE BOSTON GLOBE IS NOT PACIFIC TIME. IT IS THE TIME ZONE WHERE THE BOSTON GLOBE NEWSPAPER RESIDES. IN BOSTON WHICH IS EASTERN TIME ZONE. THIS HAS BEEN CONFIRMED WITH TWITTER AND THIS NOW BRINGS TO LIGHT THE FACT THAT THE TWEET WAS SENT PRIOR TO THE EXPLOSION. THIS IS NOW EVIDENCE FOR TRIAL. BOSTON GLOBE HAS SOME EXPLAINING TO DO.
 

Mick West

Administrator
Staff member
THE TIME STAMP ON TWITTER FROM THE BOSTON GLOBE IS NOT PACIFIC TIME. IT IS THE TIME ZONE WHERE THE BOSTON GLOBE NEWSPAPER RESIDES. IN BOSTON WHICH IS EASTERN TIME ZONE. THIS HAS BEEN CONFIRMED WITH TWITTER AND THIS NOW BRINGS TO LIGHT THE FACT THAT THE TWEET WAS SENT PRIOR TO THE EXPLOSION. THIS IS NOW EVIDENCE FOR TRIAL. BOSTON GLOBE HAS SOME EXPLAINING TO DO.
Twitter updates to the viewer's timezone setting, not the posters.

Exactly.

This can be very easily verified by changing your time zone, either on your computer if you are not logged into twitter, or in your twitter account settings if you are logged in.

Example, consider this tweet, sent at 9:15 PST:

My computer is set to PST, so it looks like this to me:


If I change my time zone to Central, in the Twitter settings:


We get:


You should verify this yourself.
 

deirdre

Senior Member.
This can be very easily verified by changing your time zone, either on your computer if you are not logged into twitter, or in your twitter account settings if you are logged in.
both my time zones are Eastern and it still says 12:53


edit. fixed it. well, that was a royal pain. everything read ok ... all my timezones were correct....but i "synchronized"/UPDATE my clock under the "internet time tab" anyway.

and then i "avoid utc-8" under my ggogle mail because the 12:53 was showing in my google search. not just on twitter.

but i think it was the "syncronize internet time tab" under my computer clock because both IE and Google chrome were reading 12:53

now they both say 3:53 yay!!!

clock.JPG

boston.JPG ie.JPG
 
Last edited:

deirdre

Senior Member.
Timestamp update: (see post #94 above) just doing some timestamps verifications on SH and check this.... NOW my Chrome browser/Google is still showing the correct time but my Internet Explorer has gone back to showing Pacific time. and again under my computer clock settings i'm still on Eastern time zone.

This is going to be a hard sell to people, to fix their computer settings!! I wonder if it has to do with browser updates??

Luckily it is well documented that Vance's first Press conference for SH was at 1:41pm. so the twitter timestamped posts for that event (well some.. there are many) are here...

https://twitter.com/peterleung/status/279657490961006593
https://twitter.com/rpolanskyWFSB/status/279657400405995520

google IE.JPG
 

ColtCabana

Senior Member
Thanks for the Twitter stuff, guys. This is another issue that I commonly see with conspiracy theorists. I had Twitter, but after being attacked daily by Boston "truthers" I finally gave it up about a year ago, so thus, I can't confirm this stuff for myself. The work done is here is, as always, appreciated!
 

occams rusty scissor

Senior Member.
Sorry so late in the piece - just came across a Wired.com article on the Boston Bomb Squad and their efforts on the day. May shed a bit more light on things re the "controlled explosion" debate.

(Apologies if I've missed it being posted already.)

Specifically re the controlled blast:

Disruptors are a good bit of kit, essentially use a jet of water to punch open and disperse the contents of a package. Usually a much better option than counter charging an IED as they're aimed at preventing a high order detonation.
 

deirdre

Senior Member.
Thanks for the Twitter stuff, guys. This is another issue that I commonly see with conspiracy theorists. I had Twitter, but after being attacked daily by Boston "truthers" I finally gave it up about a year ago, so thus, I can't confirm this stuff for myself. The work done is here is, as always, appreciated!
If you can't get them to fix their computer settings, the real time is always in "the source code".

with my above example (note my Internet Explorer is not working again..Vance's speech was at 1:41 pm),
1. open the tweet in it's own page by clicking the date
2. right click mouse and chose "view source code"
3. Under the "edit" button (top menu) choose "find on page"
4. type in "timestamp"
5. look for data-time and the number
This number is the UNIX timestamp code.
6. use a converter to convert the UNIX time to the timezone the tweet was sent from. For Sandy Hook this was Eastern Standard time: DAYLIGHT SAVINGS


step 2:
wit1.jpg

step 3-5
ts3.jpg


step 6:
ts2.jpg
 
Thread starter Related Articles Forum Replies Date
HappyMonday DEBUNKED: Natural News - Nanosized AL in chemtrails causes alzheimer's. Contrails and Chemtrails 7
Dan Wilson Debunked: Alkaline Diets Cure Cancer Health and Quackery 16
Mick West Debunked: Ice Boulders on Great Lakes Caused by Geoengineering [Natural but Rare Ball Ice] General Discussion 11
Rory Debunked: UK undertaker's claim that Covid vaccine is responsible for spike in deaths Coronavirus COVID-19 0
Marc Powell Debunked: 9/11 truth experts are knowledgeable professionals and their judgments are to be trusted 9/11 195
Marc Powell Debunked: Explosions preparatory to demolition of the WTC North Tower are visible as Flight 175 crashes into the South Tower 9/11 7
Mick West Debunked: Pfizer Developing a Twice-Per-Day COVID Pill, Taken Alongside Vaccines Coronavirus COVID-19 0
Marc Powell Debunked: Demolition “squib” is visible at top of WTC North Tower before Flight 11 crash 9/11 67
Marc Powell Debunked: Construction worker Philip Morelli experienced an explosion in the sub-basement of the North Tower 9/11 0
Marc Powell Debunked: ABC News correspondent George Stephanopoulos reported an explosion in the subway 9/11 1
Marc Powell Debunked: Debris from twin towers was projected upward by explosives 9/11 13
Marc Powell Debunked: Government officials revealed having foreknowledge of Building 7’s collapse 9/11 58
Marc Powell Debunked: NIST computer simulation of Building 7 collapse is inaccurate 9/11 22
Marc Powell Debunked: FEMA reported finding evidence that steel had melted. 9/11 47
Marc Powell Debunked: VP Dick Cheney ordered a standdown of jet fighters on 9/11 9/11 16
Oystein Debunked: Claim that Bobby McIlvaine's injuries ("lacerations") are best explained as result of glass shards and debris from bombs 9/11 22
Marc Powell Debunked: World Trade Center should not have collapsed due to 9/11 fires 9/11 3
Marc Powell Debunked: Firefighter reports of secondary explosions 9/11 3
Marc Powell Debunked: Steel was hurled hundreds of feet by explosives 9/11 4
Marc Powell Debunked: Demolition Explosion Before Collapse of South Tower 9/11 8
Marc Powell Debunked: Explosion in South Tower Lobby 9/11 7
Marc Powell Debunked: Mysterious Explosion Before the Flight 11 Crash 9/11 48
J.d.K Debunked: Marx: "The classes and the races too weak to master the new conditions must give way... They must perish in the revolutionary Holocaust" Quotes Debunked 0
dimebag2 Poll : Which DOD Navy video do you consider debunked ? UFO Videos and Reports from the US Navy 74
Mick West Debunked: Diving Triangle UFO Photos from Reddit [Fake] UFOs and Aliens 37
Theferäl [Debunked] Object Seen From Airplane Above Canberra: 04 Apr 2012 Skydentify - What is that Thing in the Sky? 5
TEEJ Debunked: Claim that Joe Biden's hand passes through microphone during White House press gaggle, 16th March 2021 Election 2020 8
bird_up Debunked: "Interdimensional being" caught on CCTV in Neza, Mexico Ghosts, Monsters, and the Paranormal 6
M Debunked: Atmospheric pressure on Mars is 9 PSI, not 0.09 PSI as claimed by NASA Science and Pseudoscience 75
Patrick Gonzalez Debunked: missing cable on Perseverance landing footage proves it is fake. General Discussion 3
TEEJ Debunked: Biden's Oval Office "Coming Apart at the Seams" [It's a Door] Election 2020 19
derrick06 Debunked: UFO over California Highway (TMZ) UFOs and Aliens 1
P Debunked: 7 Alleged photos of aliens UFOs and Aliens 9
Mick West Debunked: Biden signing "Blank" Executive Orders Election 2020 5
Mick West Debunked: Biden in "Fake" Oval Office Election 2020 27
P Debunked: UN hidden camera: the first UFO contact happened [Deep Fake] UFOs and Aliens 3
Mick West Debunked: 94% of Fulton County Ballots Manually Adjudicated [It's a Process all Batches go Through] Election 2020 0
Mick West Debunked: "Missile Strike" caused Nashville Explosion General Discussion 3
Mick West Debunked: Nashville Explosion was "Across the Street" from the RV General Discussion 0
Mick West Debunked: "Error rate of 68.5% Allowable is .0008%" [Neither is True] Election 2020 4
Mick West Debunked: Claim that the Electoral College Count On Jan 6 will Change the Election Election 2020 136
Rory Debunked: Einstein wrote "blind belief in authority is the greatest enemy of truth" Quotes Debunked 12
Mick West Debunked: Navid Keshavarz-Nia's Claims of "A Sudden Rise in Slope" as Election Fraud Evidence Election 2020 5
Mick West Debunked: Trump's Claim of "1,126,940 votes created out of thin air" in PA Election 2020 9
Mick West Debunked: Crowder's "Fraud Week" Title Graphic (and Why it Matters) Election 2020 1
JFDee Debunked: Democratic senators complained about 'vote switching' by Dominion voting machines in 2019 Election 2020 2
Mendel Debunked: The Democrats are trying to take away freedom of religion Election 2020 6
H Debunked: Dr. Shiva's Scatterplot Analysis of Michigan Precincts Election 2020 43
Mick West Debunked: Suspicious "Biden Only" Ballots in Georgia Election 2020 3
Mick West Debunked: "Nancy Pelosi's long time Chief of Staff is a key executive at Dominion Voting" Election 2020 0
Related Articles


















































Related Articles

Top