you think they could see it in Virginia?
It was just a report on Bruces youtube page. I guess it would depend on how high.
Thanks cosmic Im learning a lot here. But I did see a trail on the russian meteor.
This is what I saw In San Diego. It was huge in the sky. This pic was from a different angle but it was an awesome site
But you would agree that it is a persistent trail and depending on where the sun is in relation to the trail would determine the illumination.
Note I have the time set in my Google Earth re-creation for 5:01pm, and that gives the precise location of the sun.
Published on Feb 8, 2014
We filmed this today saturday after noon 2/8/2014 at aprox 5:00 pm. Did anyone else see anything around this time in the sky? Does anyone know what this is or was?
Wow, I'm really impressed with the way you guys go about your business. The level of intelligence and expertise is paramount. I'm bedazzled to say the least...Given the time (5PM EDT = 17:00 + hours = 22:00 UTC), the likely plane is UA4597
http://www.flightradar24.com/2014-02-08/22:01/12x/ASQ4597/2ae30cd
From the AMS:Technically, that’s called a persistent train, and it’s not actually smoke. As a meteoroid (the actual solid chunk of material) blasts through the air, it ionizes the gases, stripping electrons from their parent atoms. As the electrons slowly recombine with the atoms, they emit light — this is how neon signs glow, as well as giant star-forming nebulae in space.
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I’ll note it’s not really friction that causes a meteor to burn up. Most of the heating is due to the meteoroid’s hypersonic passage through air, which compresses the gas, heating it up violently. The heat melts the rock (or metal) in the meteoroid, which then blows off, leaving behind a train that fades rapidly. But the glow from the ionized gas takes much longer to decay, leaving the persistent train.
Fireballs can develop two types of trails behind them: trains and smoke trails. A train is a glowing trail of ionized and excited air molecules left behind after the passage of the meteor. Most trains last only a few seconds, but on rare occasions a train may last up to several minutes. A train of this duration can often be seen to change shape over time as it is blown by upper atmospheric winds. Trains generally occur very high in the meteoric region of the atmosphere, generally greater than 80 km (65 miles) altitude, and are most often associated with fast meteors. Fireball trains are often visible at night, and very rarely by day.
The second type of trail is called a smoke trail, and is more often seen in daylight fireballs than at night. Generally occurring below 80 km of altitude, smoke trails are a non-luminous trail of particulate stripped away during the ablation process. These appear similar to contrails left behind by aircraft, and can have either a light or dark appearance.
On average most meteors are very small, and usually wouldn't resemble a contrail. It's understandable that distinguishing between the two might not seem easy at first, possibly due to how meteors are frequently depicted in the media and film.The majority of visible meteors are caused by particles ranging in size from about that of a small pebble down to a grain of sand, and generally weigh less than 1-2 grams. Those of asteroid origin can be composed of dense stony or metallic material (the minority) while those of cometary origin (the majority) have low densities and are composed of a “fluffy” conglomerate of material, frequently called a “dustball.” The brilliant flash of light from a meteor is not caused so much by the meteoroid’s mass, but by its high level of kinetic energy as it collides with the atmosphere.
Meteors enter the atmosphere at speeds ranging from 11 km/sec (25,000 mph), to 72 km/sec (160,000 mph!). When the meteoroid collides with air molecules, its high level of kinetic energy rapidly ionizes and excites a long, thin column of atmospheric atoms along the meteoroid’s path, creating a flash of light visible from the ground below. This column, or meteor trail, is usually less than 1 meter in diameter, but will be tens of kilometers long.
He had the link even before that news article was out. Maybe Edward Gleason, staff astronomer at the Southworth Planetarium at the University of Southern Maine needs a link to it too. Impressive title maybe he should have referred with his boss before making that statement.
2/9 7:56 pm
is that 21 hours from right now? cause his friend didn't give him the metabunk link till at most 19 hrs ago. but no, he still doesn't know what it is. youtube says he doesn't think its a chemtrail or contrail, but he didn't say we have rocks for brains! ; )Missed this one in the WMTW comments previously -- unfortunately, Mr. York seems unswayed.
Missed this one in the WMTW comments previously -- unfortunately, Mr. York seems unswayed.
is that 21 hours from right now? cause his friend didn't give him the metabunk link till at most 19 hrs ago. but no, he still doesn't know what it is. youtube says he doesn't think its a chemtrail or contrail, but he didn't say we have rocks for brains! ; )
I think they think it is falling. not laying horizontal. that's whats tripping them up
that's the girl from that group (forget name now) I told you about earlier. maybe she just doesn't like you
