Debunked: dead dolphins with ischemic lungs therefore fukushima did it

RFMarine

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http://yournewswire.com/dead-dolphins-in-fukushima-stranding-found-with-white-radiated-lungs

any evidence to debunk this?



Japanese scientists are saying they have never seen anything like what they discovered after autopsying a massive group of dolphins that ended up dead after being discovered stranded on a beach near the site of the 2011 Fukushima disaster.

Their lungs were white, which, according to scientists is an indication of loss of blood flow to the organs which is an indication of radiation poisoning.

The translated article comes from EneNews:

Apr 11, 2015 (emphasis added):

Google Translate: Ibaraki Prefecture… for a large amount of dolphin which was launched on the shore… the National Science Museum… investigated… researchers rushed from national museums and university laboratory, about 30 people were the anatomy of the 17 animals in the field. [According to Yuko Tajima] who led the investigation… “the lungs of most of the 17… was pure white ischemic state, visceral signs of overall clean and disease and infections were observed”… Lungs white state, that has never seen before.

Systran: The National Science Museum… investigated circumstance and cause etc concerning the mass dolphin which is launched to the seashore of Ibaraki prefecture… the researchers ran from the museum and the university laboratory… approximately 30 people dissected 17… [Yuko Tajima] of the National Science Museum which directed investigation research worker [said] “the most lung 17 was state with true white, but as for the internal organs being clean”… The lung true white as for state, says… have not seen.

Fukushima Diary, Apr 12, 2015: According to National Science Museum, most of the inspected 17 dolphins had their lungs in ischaemia state… The chief of the researching team stated “Most of the lungs looked entirely white”… internal organs were generally clean without any symptoms of disease or infection, but most of the lungs were in ischaemia state. She said “I have never seen such a state”.



Wikipedia: Ischemia is a vascular disease involving an interruption in the arterial blood supply to a tissue, organ, or extremity that, if untreated, can lead to tissue death.

Many reports have been published on the links between ischemia and radiation exposure:

“It has been shown that the ionizing radiation in small doses under certain conditions can be considered as one of starting mechanisms of… IHD [ischemic heart disease].” -Source
“Radiation risks on non-cancer effects has been revealed in the [Chernobyl] liquidators… Recently, the statistically significant dose risk of ischemic heart disease… was published.” -Source
“Incidence of and mortality from ischemic heart disease (IHD) have been studied in a cohort of 12210 workers [at] Mayak nuclear facility… there was statistically significant increasing trend in IHD incidence with total external gamma dose.” -Source
“Numerous studies have been published concerning non cancer diseases in liquidators… Risk of ischemic heart disease… seems increased.” -Source
“In 1990 the International Chernobyl Project has been carried out under the aegis of the IAEA… It is known that the international experts who had taken part in the International Chernobyl Project were aware of the report by the Minster of the Ministry of Health Care of Belarus delivered at an informal meeting arranged by the IAEA… The Belorussian Minister reported about… the worsening of the general health state of the affected population… “Among adults in 1988 there was a two- to fourfold increase, in comparison with preceding years, in the number of persons suffering from… ischemic heart diseases” -Source
“In a study on a Russian cohort of 61,000 Chernobyl emergency workers… a statistically significant risk of ischemic heart disease was observed.” -Source


How do you feel about the findings of the autopsies of the Fukushima Dolphin standing?

- See more at: http://yournewswire.com/dead-dolphins-in-fukushima-stranding-found-with-white-radiated-lungs/
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Pete Tar

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Please include all relevant information to the claim in your post.
Before you ask 'any evidence to debunk this', what is the evidence *for* this?
 

Cairenn

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Well, the source is not really credible. It seems that every poor source from Godlike, to BIN to NN to RT are carrying the story.

It seems that the lungs showed signs of ischemia, blood loss and those sites want to link it to radiation. The links to radiation seem to be fairly flimsy
 

Auldy

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Alarm Bells:

- yournewswire titles the article "...found with radiated lungs". The research team quoted makes no mention that radiation levels were detected or even measured. Geiger counters are pretty common as are other radiation monitoring devices, they should be readily available by scientists. So the author is just fabricated stuff.

- approx 170 dolphins washed up. Only 17 were examined, and "most" of them had white lungs. How many is most? If they can say they examined 17 animals, how come they don't say how many had white lungs?

- your newswire doesn't reference the original story, but enenews. Enenews also does not reference the original story. The best I can find at fukusima diary is two Japanese written posts (here) and (here) which I can't get to translate any where near what is referenced in the yournewsire article. If a news story doesn't provide real references it is very hard to believe let alone verify.

- your newswire says the dolphins were found beached in fukusima, when they were actually found in Ibaraki, 50 miles from the Fukushima disaster area border, and therefore even further from the actual disaster site. Now while radiation contamination can obviously spread, why would the website lie/mistruth this easily verifiable fact? (source here, surprisingly a different enenews article)

- large volumes of sea animal die off's are not uncommon and have happened many times before Fukushima. This catalogue of notable examples by Scientific America links such die offs to deep sea oil exploration which use acoustic sounding air guns

Although there has been more analysis of the impact of sonar than seismic testing, studies have linked loud ocean noises to ear and organ damage in marine mammals. Sounds can also change behaviors such as dive patterns – which can result in decompression sickness or “the bends” – or drive them closer to shore, where they could beach if they were disoriented.
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- ischemia is a real thing, but I haven't been able to find much about ischemia and its effects on lungs. Closest I could find is a rabbit lung photo which was suffering from ischemia, but it is not white, almost its normal pink. Hidden behind spoiler for those who may be squeamish.



Would very much like to see the original article/piece.
 

Hevach

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After tracing the image on Google, I seem to have come back to this article:

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...es-feared-dead-beaching-ibaraki/#.VTeQgCFVikp
No mention of lung issues.

with this series of follow ups:
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...-work-to-decipher-mass-beaching/#.VTeRYSFViko
Dead dolphins being buried, no mention of physical examination

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...-unscientific-japan-quake-fears/#.VTeRYSFViko
Superstitions about mass beachings preceding earthquakes

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...es-feared-dead-beaching-ibaraki/#.VTeRYCFViko

Only 3 appear to have survived, this is not the fist mass beaching of this species of dolphin in the area, in 2011 a pod of 50 melon head wales (the same species involved here) beached themselves nearby. Examination of 34 (not 17) of the dead dolphins has yet to yield a physical cause of the beaching.

Searches on Japan Times gives no articles about the Ibaraki dolphins that mention lungs. The last articles that had the words dolphin or dolphins and lung or lungs was a February article about dolphins exposed to the BP oil spill suffering from lung disease and tooth loss.
 
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