Debunked: BLM land grab in Texas

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Joe

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http://therightscoop.com/judge-jean...-land-grab-hopes-folks-will-come-support-him/ Its the water .
 

deirdre

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...eyeing-land-grab-along-texas-oklahoma-border/

I could be misunderstanding but sounds to me like the water is already theirs. no?
 

Svartbjørn

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Remember my prediction after the Bundy thing about this sort of crap cropping up? Whether or not anything COMES of it, is a different matter.. but Bundy was just the beginning. I really really hope Im wrong.
 

cosmic

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Why I didnt think the BLM was a democrat or republican thing ?

It's not. The issue is being exaggerated and misrepresented for political gain. A federal judge (Republican, by the way, nominated by President Ford) already ruled nearly 30 years ago that the land in question is owned by the federal government. There is no evidence of the BLM attempting to take additional land out of private owners' hands.

As per the Chronicle:

It was 1986, not 1988, but the point stands. The "land grab" claims are just an exercise in grandstanding during an election cycle, fresh on the heels of the story out of Nevada.
 
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Joe

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It's not. The issue is being exaggerated and misrepresented for political gain. A federal judge (Republican, by the way, nominated by President Ford) already ruled nearly 30 years ago that the land in question is owned by the federal government. There is no evidence of the BLM attempting to take additional land out of private owners' hands.

As per the Chronicle:

It was 1986, not 1988, but the point stands. The "land grab" claims are just an exercise in grandstanding during an election cycle, fresh on the heels of the story out of Nevada.
No I disagree . Its the Bundy issue that has shined a light on this . As if both parties dont grandstand ?
 

Svartbjørn

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How did it shine a light on something that occured 20+ years ago and is completely unrelated? How is it a land grab or water grab? Sounds to me like someone is either dragging up BS from the past for personal gain, or as Cos pointed out.. its being dragged up by politicians for votes.
 
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Joe

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How did it shine a light on something that occured 20+ years ago and is completely unrelated? How is it a land grab or water grab? Sounds to me like someone is either dragging up BS from the past for personal gain, or as Cos pointed out.. its being dragged up by politicians for votes.
Not what happened to Bundy 20 years ago . the fact that this person in Texas and many others might have thought now was the time while everyone is looking at the BLM to bring up the problems he is having . I think he said they want his land he has been paying taxes on for years . Sounds like a land grab . As far as political , what isn't political these days ? Plus what are politicians for if they cant help the people they are suppose to represent ? Are is it just the fact only one political party seemed to come to his aid ? Its happening today not in the past . Like with many cases how do you fight against the government ? Who has the money to fight when one side has to work for their money and the other side just steals theirs from taxpayers ? or Just prints it . Either way you lose . Unless you can get national attention .Ron Paul warns about armed bureaucrats such as the BLM 1997
 
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Sorry but....Ron Paul (and his son Rand) amount to nothing more than "provocateurs" with no real substance.
In your opinion Im sure they are . In my opinion they are not . Im curious on how this got debunked when its still in the news ? BLM said its been there land since the 1920s I guess they mean federal land but it still disputed so how can it be debunked ?
 

WeedWhacker

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In your opinion Im sure they are . In my opinion they are not . Im curious on how this got debunked when its still in the news ? BLM said its been there land since the 1920s I guess they mean federal land but it still disputed so how can it be debunked ?

The 'BLM' was there since 1785

I mean....some people (today) wish to re-write history, EVEN as they try to use the United States Constitution as their "backing"...but, reality sets in......
 
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Joe

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The 'BLM' was there since 1785

I mean....some people (today) wish to re-write history, EVEN as they try to use the United States Constitution as their "backing"...but, reality sets in......
Its roots or revisionist history ? 1946 BLM was created
 

WeedWhacker

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Its roots or revisionist history ? 1946 BLM was created

Now, this delves into aspects of law, and "Land Use" rights, and stuff.

Really....wanna go there? I think that ANY Constitutional lawyer would be able to rip me (or you) a "new one", if we wished to tangle.

Frankly, I subscribe to the basics....in the United States of America,

The "process" is a "representative government", and as such, a "representative DEMOCRACY" (note the capital letters).

Have a "problem"? Then, VOTE!!!!!
 

deirdre

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how do you fight against the government ? Who has the money to fight
all you have to do is start a 'gofundme' account and start a conspiracy blog, get picked up by alex jones and the money would be pouring in to take your claim to court. then to the supreme court etc.

not to mention the 'police state types' have lawyers that would work (near) pro bono just for the publicity.
 

cosmic

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Im curious on how this got debunked when its still in the news ? BLM said its been there land since the 1920s I guess they mean federal land but it still disputed so how can it be debunked ?

It's appropriate that the claim has been marked as debunked because, contrary to the news stories you're describing, the BLM isn't arbitrarily confiscating land it didn't already possess. There's zero evidence of that to date. Those with property line disputes can have their day in court, and the issue is complicated primarily by the fact that the lay of the land on the southern side of the Red River changes naturally over time, which affects both governmental and private property lines.

More importantly, the BLM has not only been soliciting input from landowners and the general public for months now, but also has multiple options at their disposal for future management of the land in question. Politically motivated media sources and affiliates are neglecting to mention that, depending on the outcome of the bureau's review process, the BLM might not make any changes to how the land is managed. They (the Bureau) are, however, responding to multiple concerns (originating from land owners, mind you) from meth production to littering to the presence of abandoned oil equipment.

*Edited for grammar, clarity.
 
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