Drew
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Despite being a lurker for a while, I'm still new to posting here, so I'm not sure what the SOP is for posting new topics. But I thought I'd submit this.
Is there anything we can do with this? I don't know anything about this woman or her show, but this seems pretty awful. She's very eager to make some sloppy arguments to shoehorn some questionable facts into her agenda. The "Saudi national" who was injured at the marathon, questioned by the police, consented to an apartment search, cooperated fully, and has been cleared of suspicion is, according to her, linked to Al Qaeda.
[EX=http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/roth/130417]
Al Qaeda linked to Saudi at Boston Marathon
By Laurie Roth
On my national radio show on Tuesday April 16th, former Muslim Brotherhood member, now author, speaker, and expert on Islam and the Middle East, Whalid Shoebat, called in revealing info he discovered in Arabic, his native language.
We all recall Abdul Rahman Ali Al-Harbi detained as a "person of interest" at the scene of the Boston Marathon explosion. He was injured and hospitalized then questioned but not arrested. Today as the news cycle unfolded, he was described as "innocent" and most cooperative with authorities.
Whalid Shoebat found in Arabic a list of known Islamic terrorists, either wanted or currently being held on crimes of terrorism with the name Al-Harbi. They were all numbered and listed. He lists them all and reveals his sourcesin his article posted on www.shoebat.com.
#15 BadrSaud Uwaid Al-Awufi Al-Harbi
#73 Muhammad Atiqu Uwaid Al-Awufi Al-Harbi
#26 Khalid Salim Uwaid Al-Lahibi Al-Harbi
#29 Raed Abdullah Salem Al-Thahiri Al-Harbi
#43 Abdullah Abdul Rahman Muhammad Al-Harbi (leader)
#60 Fayez Ghuneim Humeid Al-Hijri Al-Harbi
Al-Harbi clan members in Gitmo:
Salim Salman Awadallah Al-Sai'di Al-Harbi
Majid Abdullah Hussein Al-Harbi
Muhammad Abdullah Saqr Al-Alawi Al-Harbi
Ghanem Abdul Rahman hanem Al-Harbi
Muhammad Atiq Uwaid Al-Awfi Al-Harbi
Whalid also found a photo in Arabic sources of Rahman Ali Alharbi in traditional Islamic dress on Facebook. Soon after he grabbed the photo, it was scrubbed. Arthur Hu of Asia Week contacted Whalid and noticed the resemblance of the traditional photo Whalid found and the photo he possessed, taken by an Asian American at the finish line of the Boston Marathon. It showed Rahman Ali Alharbi with two other Saudi men as Whalid described them. They all looked suspicious.
Whalid and I discussed just how absurd and unbelievable it was that Rahman Ali Alharbi was already described as innocent, yet he is linked with Al Qaeda and at least 11 Islamic Terrorist relatives listed above. We also wondered why his traditional photo on Facebook had been scrubbed and American media was so quick to minimize him as any danger.
Even early in the investigation of this nightmare at the Boston Marathon, it looks highly suspicious that this was an Islamic terrorist attack, most likely linked to the three Saudi men caught in the photo captured by Arthur Hu of Asia Week. Having been a former terrorist and Muslim Brotherhood member himself, Whalid commented in our interview on the Middle Eastern signature of the attack with double explosions and use of a medical vehicle, which apparently is commonly seen in Islamic attacks.
The bottom line for Obama is right before the 2014 election this is not helpful ammo to take back the House and perhaps even keep the Senate. After all he ran on taking out Al Kae Da and not having a terrorist attack on American soil. He took out Bin Laden, therefore, the Al Kae Da threat was over. Obama was John Wayne and George Bush wasn't. This is a bold assault that will reveal, as the days unfold, that it was a major Islamic attack on American soil. It destroyed, at least for a time, an ICON to America, The Boston Marathon.
Maybe Obama will give us the same investigation and justice he gave Benghazi, a big lot of NOTHING. Join me each day from 7-10 pm PAC on my national radio show at: www.therothshow.com.
© Laurie Roth
[/EX]
So the sum total of the evidence for her claim:
1. Al-Harbi shares a surname with a number of suspected terrorists and Guantanamo detainees. I'm not well-versed in Saudi Arabian naming conventions, but as I recall, many people can share "clan" names with varying degrees of actual relation. Al-Harbi seems common. Although I couldn't find published lists of the most common Saudi surnames, "Al-Harbi" and "Alharbi" show up multiple times in Wikipedia (footballers and politicians), IMDB, and the New York White Pages. It is doubtful that they are all close relatives.
2. He was photographed wearing "traditional Islamic dress," and I'm not even sure what that's even supposed to mean. The photo was on facebook and it disappeared.
3. He was photographed at the marathon with other Saudi men, and "They all looked suspicious."
Having thus "proven" the Al Qaeda link, Roth goes on to allude to a cover-up on the part of the authorities and the media, and then into some by-the-numbers Obama bashing.
I'm not sure this is really even meets the criteria for a CT worthy of debunking. I'm not sure what there really even is to refute here, other than a slew of grossly xenophobic and racist insinuations. But it's ugly, it seems like a pretty awful argument, and the Freepers are eating it up. And there's enough of a conspiracist odor to it to bring it to our attention.
Is there anything we can do with this? I don't know anything about this woman or her show, but this seems pretty awful. She's very eager to make some sloppy arguments to shoehorn some questionable facts into her agenda. The "Saudi national" who was injured at the marathon, questioned by the police, consented to an apartment search, cooperated fully, and has been cleared of suspicion is, according to her, linked to Al Qaeda.
[EX=http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/roth/130417]
Al Qaeda linked to Saudi at Boston Marathon
By Laurie Roth
On my national radio show on Tuesday April 16th, former Muslim Brotherhood member, now author, speaker, and expert on Islam and the Middle East, Whalid Shoebat, called in revealing info he discovered in Arabic, his native language.
We all recall Abdul Rahman Ali Al-Harbi detained as a "person of interest" at the scene of the Boston Marathon explosion. He was injured and hospitalized then questioned but not arrested. Today as the news cycle unfolded, he was described as "innocent" and most cooperative with authorities.
Whalid Shoebat found in Arabic a list of known Islamic terrorists, either wanted or currently being held on crimes of terrorism with the name Al-Harbi. They were all numbered and listed. He lists them all and reveals his sourcesin his article posted on www.shoebat.com.
#15 BadrSaud Uwaid Al-Awufi Al-Harbi
#73 Muhammad Atiqu Uwaid Al-Awufi Al-Harbi
#26 Khalid Salim Uwaid Al-Lahibi Al-Harbi
#29 Raed Abdullah Salem Al-Thahiri Al-Harbi
#43 Abdullah Abdul Rahman Muhammad Al-Harbi (leader)
#60 Fayez Ghuneim Humeid Al-Hijri Al-Harbi
Al-Harbi clan members in Gitmo:
Salim Salman Awadallah Al-Sai'di Al-Harbi
Majid Abdullah Hussein Al-Harbi
Muhammad Abdullah Saqr Al-Alawi Al-Harbi
Ghanem Abdul Rahman hanem Al-Harbi
Muhammad Atiq Uwaid Al-Awfi Al-Harbi
Whalid also found a photo in Arabic sources of Rahman Ali Alharbi in traditional Islamic dress on Facebook. Soon after he grabbed the photo, it was scrubbed. Arthur Hu of Asia Week contacted Whalid and noticed the resemblance of the traditional photo Whalid found and the photo he possessed, taken by an Asian American at the finish line of the Boston Marathon. It showed Rahman Ali Alharbi with two other Saudi men as Whalid described them. They all looked suspicious.
Whalid and I discussed just how absurd and unbelievable it was that Rahman Ali Alharbi was already described as innocent, yet he is linked with Al Qaeda and at least 11 Islamic Terrorist relatives listed above. We also wondered why his traditional photo on Facebook had been scrubbed and American media was so quick to minimize him as any danger.
Even early in the investigation of this nightmare at the Boston Marathon, it looks highly suspicious that this was an Islamic terrorist attack, most likely linked to the three Saudi men caught in the photo captured by Arthur Hu of Asia Week. Having been a former terrorist and Muslim Brotherhood member himself, Whalid commented in our interview on the Middle Eastern signature of the attack with double explosions and use of a medical vehicle, which apparently is commonly seen in Islamic attacks.
The bottom line for Obama is right before the 2014 election this is not helpful ammo to take back the House and perhaps even keep the Senate. After all he ran on taking out Al Kae Da and not having a terrorist attack on American soil. He took out Bin Laden, therefore, the Al Kae Da threat was over. Obama was John Wayne and George Bush wasn't. This is a bold assault that will reveal, as the days unfold, that it was a major Islamic attack on American soil. It destroyed, at least for a time, an ICON to America, The Boston Marathon.
Maybe Obama will give us the same investigation and justice he gave Benghazi, a big lot of NOTHING. Join me each day from 7-10 pm PAC on my national radio show at: www.therothshow.com.
© Laurie Roth
[/EX]
So the sum total of the evidence for her claim:
1. Al-Harbi shares a surname with a number of suspected terrorists and Guantanamo detainees. I'm not well-versed in Saudi Arabian naming conventions, but as I recall, many people can share "clan" names with varying degrees of actual relation. Al-Harbi seems common. Although I couldn't find published lists of the most common Saudi surnames, "Al-Harbi" and "Alharbi" show up multiple times in Wikipedia (footballers and politicians), IMDB, and the New York White Pages. It is doubtful that they are all close relatives.
2. He was photographed wearing "traditional Islamic dress," and I'm not even sure what that's even supposed to mean. The photo was on facebook and it disappeared.
3. He was photographed at the marathon with other Saudi men, and "They all looked suspicious."
Having thus "proven" the Al Qaeda link, Roth goes on to allude to a cover-up on the part of the authorities and the media, and then into some by-the-numbers Obama bashing.
I'm not sure this is really even meets the criteria for a CT worthy of debunking. I'm not sure what there really even is to refute here, other than a slew of grossly xenophobic and racist insinuations. But it's ugly, it seems like a pretty awful argument, and the Freepers are eating it up. And there's enough of a conspiracist odor to it to bring it to our attention.
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