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ranting about mind control and secret government plots to poison them — in a downward slide that was likely accelerated by heavy marijuana use
I think "targeted individual" is closer to the point with this couple. Amazing that they both have the same pathology.
Really the chick filet shooter would tell me otherwise ? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...-a-sandwiches-ammo-backpack-article-1.1137935 when you put people on a hate list such as David Barton and the Family Research Council . When you label the New Black Panther party as a right wing hate group . No most are libertarians like most of us according to the test ,The SPLC is not a danger to the American public unless maybe someone is in the KKK. Chemtrails and HAARP tend to be shared conspiracies, by the extreme right wingers and libertarians. I see little mention of them on liberal sites, their conspiracies tend to run to big oil, big pharma, big ag and a general dislike of banks (but without the illuminati crap in the way). Environmental groups seem to be all over the place in which conspiracies they favor.
Not to take it further off topic, but I'd say it's more of a "red herring".Joe, what yu are doing is a "straw man", picking out something you don't like which is minor to the story.
Yes its a local story and the chemtrail was just an excuse because they are NutZ . Everything From the SPLC is far right wing . Roseann Barr is anything but shes not right wing . Why that as well as the chemtrail angle was added to the story ? Other then being wacko Stoners kidnapping their own kid then heading to a Communist country it really has nothing to do with chemtrails just paranoid delusion .Joe, what yu are doing is a "straw man", picking out something you don't like which is minor to the story. These two criminals went to Cuba seeking asylum saying they had discovered chemtrails. From all accounts, and their own actions, they were a bit 'off'. That is the story here, not if you do/don't like one of the several people interviewed. The trial might be interesting, will you be going?
Not to take it further off topic, but I'd say it's more of a "red herring".![]()
Yes like david Barton . He is such a threat to the LBGT community http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/profiles/david-barton . The story as it is written has everything to do with the SPLC how else would it have gotten the Title ? This is Old News why is it back ? what does losing your kids and taking them away have to do with Chemtrails ? or The Right Wing ? Nothing ! What about the attempted massacre because of the SPLC ? http://www.splcenter.org/get-inform...ican-family-association-the-demonization-of-l Hate groups maybe but they arent killing people . Dont see the Crips or the Bloods on the list ? Im sick of this blame the right bull crap . The SPLC is Just a arm of the democratic party .I see you inferring that the SPLC should be on a hate list? I have seen that from others on the far right. That story has nothing to do with the SPLC.
Did you condemn the hit lists for abortion doctors and providers?
Have you ever looked at their list of hate groups? I would expect that you would agree with them about some, like the Nation of Islam and the New Black Panthers.
Why that as well as the chemtrail angle was added to the story ? Other then being wacko Stoners kidnapping their own kid then heading to a Communist country it really has nothing to do with chemtrails just paranoid delusion .
The three-page letter was part of a cache of documents theTampa Bay Times obtained last week after a judge ordered the disclosure of prosecutors' evidence — what attorneys call discovery material — in the Hakkens' criminal case.
The documents chart in unprecedented detail the world view that took the Hakkens from a quiet neighborhood north of MacDill Air Force Base to a cramped boat rocking off the coast of an island autocracy.
Joe said:This is Old News why is it back ? what does losing your kids and taking them away have to do with Chemtrails ?
no i read the article and the headline was the kicker . Alex Jones is a libertarian as are most on this site or at least what he says . Soi what the point of the letter ? they were looking for an excuse for cuba to take them with their children . Most would do the same . They were targeted because they are antigovernment Period ! Discovery material LOL .Joe, chemtrails came into the story when the 3 page letter to the Cubans was revealed last week in the discovery material. The Haakens told the Cubans a big story including Haarp and chemtrails: So ? thaey are entitled to their paranoid opinion . hwta did they do ? kidnappened their own kid that was taken because of drug charges . Big deal many do the same . But now its all about painting the right wing or anti-government people as dangerous ? Its a non story hype by the media .
See above.
Joe, since you seem to have not read the article, it looks to me like you simply felt threatened by a few sentences quoting someone from SPLC and felt as if they were attacking you personally. If the shoe didn't fit why did you wear it?
Joe, chemtrails came into the story when the 3 page letter to the Cubans was revealed last week in the discovery material. The Haakens told the Cubans a big story including Haarp and chemtrails:
See above.
Joe, since you seem to have not read the article, it looks to me like you simply felt threatened by a few sentences quoting someone from SPLC and felt as if they were attacking you personally. If the shoe didn't fit why did you wear it?
Most Truthers and Chemtrail theories started under bush By Liberals who didn't like Bush. Hillary Clinton herself started the whole birther movement . Many Occupy by into the Conspiracies as well . So to call them right wing conspiracies is ludicrous . I believe they are neither right or left wing just plain conspiracies . Like the Lady Di conspiracy that might not be a conspiracy after all ? Funny how some conspiracies wind up being true . I never said they were normal far from it I said if someone took my kids whatever the reason Id do whatever to get them back and if you have kids ? you'd do the same . They were clearly delusional stoners . Well educated as well .Seriously, "libertarian" is a catch all nowadays for "I'm certainly not a liberal and those republicans are not far right enough for me." They swallowed the chemtrails conspiracy, and many others, hook, line and sinker. Plus they were mentally ill. In your view thought, they were totally normal parents who wanted an excuse to go to Cuba so they wrote a deranged screed about chemtrails and conspiracies. Talk about cognitive dissonance, your picture is in the dictionary Joe.
No the dope made them dopes .They were more than stoners. They probably smoked dope to self medicate.
What comes first the chicken or the Egg ?Joe many mentally ill people drink or smoke dope because of their illness.
What comes first the chicken or the Egg ?
Well... it does show an effect related to indiscriminate belief in conspiracy theories, ie, that it tends to exacerbate mental illness via the paranoia and desperation they implant.
They were just crazy people. This has very little to do with conspiracy theories.
oshua Hakken believed the Air Force was using “chem trails of aircraft” to lace the sky to control people, according Jameson B. Rabbitt, who knew Joshua Hakken from when they both attended the University of South Florida. A mechanical engineer with a specialty in heating, ventilation and air conditioning, Hakken built an elaborate filtration system in his house to filter out the chemicals the Air Force was putting in the air, Rabbitt said.
Do conspiracy theories worsen paranoia? I'm not qualified to say. My gut feeling is that the internet provides ready access to stimuli that could reinforce paranoid thought processes. It might be a tipping point for some. I can only imagine what it must do to someone prone to paranoid delusions to become convinced that contrails are chemtrails. It's got to be like chaining a gun shy dog outside on New Years eve.
I don't agree. The world is already seems incredibly suspicious, and everything is personally significant to the highly paranoid. Telling them about "chemtrails" is just another brick in the wall. If anything, a confirmation of their suspicious might reassure them that they were not crazy, and make them feel better.
So do you think there's a clear line between this mental illness (such as the case of the person you referenced earlier) and cases of paranoia or extreme paranoia?
And also, is there a name for this type of mental illness?
The type of mental illness I'm referring to is the case you presented earlier with Doctor Minor being insane. Just curious if there is a name for this type of illness.No. And which type?
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