Claim: US military are preparing a major PSYOP/martial law - Op Jade Helm

Bruno D.

Senior Member.
Ok, Jade Helm started and not a single word from the usual suspects.

As expected, they will just pretend they never "fear monged" that one and move on.
 

MikeG

Senior Member.
Ok, Jade Helm started and not a single word from the usual suspects.

As expected, they will just pretend they never "fear monged" that one and move on.



Not exactly

http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2015/07/13/media-cut-off-from-jade-helm-15-military-exercises/

Liberty Beacon seemed incredulous that embedded reporters are not allowed to accompany special operations during training. It also can't seem to understand why Posse Comitatus does not apply to training exercises.

The New York Times entered the fray a little late.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/16/u...n-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
 

BombDr

Senior Member.
Ok, Jade Helm started and not a single word from the usual suspects.

As expected, they will just pretend they never "fear monged" that one and move on.
Ahhh, but don't forget the 'dry run' get-out-of-bullshit-clause.

This one passed off quietly because all the patriots were ready to resist the tyranny, but next time the sheeple will be unprepared...
 

MikeG

Senior Member.
I found this yesterday. It is an interesting twist on what the CT community thinks of Jade Helm.

http://resistancejournals.com/2015/07/15/breaking-cell-service-blackouts-as-jade-launches/


The Hagmann and Hagmann Report made a similar claim two weeks ago in an interview with a “researcher” who goes by the name of “D.J.”

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cfp-ra...s-about-the-purpose-and-scope-of-jade-helm-15

Geospatial warfare is not new. In fact, you can go back a 1996 Department of Defense Document titled Joint Vision 2010 and find elements of it. The same is true of doctrine centered around the “Revolution in Military Affairs” (RMA) that appeared in the late nineties.

Human terrain mapping, which “D.J.” mentions during her interview on the Hagmann and Hagmann Report, has also been around for at least a decade. You could make the argument that it extends back to the data collection systems implemented in latter stages of the Vietnam War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Terrain_System

It is interesting that the ResistanceJournals added quantum computing to the Geospatial Intelligence Network story. It is the sort of mash up that you find among people who conflate facts without full well knowing what they mean. But the idea of a military-controlled omnipotent computer system that can invade individual privacy seems to have an obvious appeal for conspiracy theorists.
 

Pigeonkak

Member
Todd Schnitt is a voice of (relative) reason from the conservative radio world. He has been very vocal against conspiracy theories about Sandy Hook, Boston, and of course Jade Helm right now. I'm trying to find a clip or excerpt of his show yesterday but he is taking great pleasure in ridiculing the Jade Helm Conspiracy Theory. Yesterday, he faked a listener call in, from Broken Arrow, and made it seem that she was kidnapped on air by a black helicopter while discussing Jade Helm. Then he closed his show by pretending to call her back and played audio of "the number you have dialed is disconnected".

I hope that more conservative personalities call the CTs out as the exercise goes on. It will go a long way to isolate the theories, more so than if Left leaning media does so.
 
The first post on this thread was March 25. It's now 11 pages long, with all sorts of good information inside. Now I know that the conspiracy world does not revolve around what you guys do here, but if 3 and a half months of working over this "problem" doesn't convince at least SOME people that the threat of jack booting thugs in our streets is about as possible as snow inside a volcano then I don't know what else to say.

On a side note, I'm very much looking forward to visiting family Texas in a few weeks. Should put me there right in the heat of the battle and I can try my hand at being one of those citizen journalists :rolleyes:

{Reporting live from inside a FEMA death camp conveniently located in your nearest Wal-mart IT'S YOUR HOST: NIBIRUXCATACLYSMXMARTIALLAWXOBAMAISAMUSLIMXISISINMEXICOXFALSEFLAGFALSEFLAGFALSEFLAG!}

That's my conspiracy name. It lets all the other conspiracy people know how serious I am.
 

SR1419

Senior Member.
True, but I don't think the people who believe the government is coming to take their guns are reading the New York Times.

Probably not- at least not en masse- but the comments were from all sides of the aisle so-to-speak and from varying perspectives and thus interesting.
 

BombDr

Senior Member.
JADE HELM: Day 4 -

Guns confiscated or registered: 0
Patriots interred: 0
FEMA camps active: 0
Mailbox dot identifications: 0
UN vehicles deployed: 0
Walmart tunnels breached: 0

The Jackboot of tyranny marches on......
 

Svartbjørn

Senior Member.
JADE HELM: Day 4 -

Guns confiscated or registered: 0
Patriots interred: 0
FEMA camps active: 0
Mailbox dot identifications: 0
UN vehicles deployed: 0
Walmart tunnels breached: 0

The Jackboot of tyranny marches on......

They're just lulling us into a false sense of security because JH has been so publicized.
 

MikeG

Senior Member.

occams rusty scissor

Senior Member.
I am not sure how Australia is wrapped up in Jade Helm, according to conspiracy theorists.

It's a stark contrast - on the news recently they showed the start of talisman-sabre in the top end of Australia, mentioned involvement of around 30000 marines/us personnel conducting amphibious assaults and involvement of the Japanese and other countries in our corner of the world. Far from screaming "Omg invasion..conspiracy...lizards!" I think most people kinda shrugged and one or two asked if we get a public holiday to go watch.
The most headlines it got was when a US Marines transport was involved in a collision with a civvy vehicle.
 

CeruleanBlu

Senior Member.
Law enforcement seeks to imprison the first two of what will assuredly be millions of patriots.

And it won't be the last either, they just snagged 3 people over in my neck of the woods on weapons and explosives charges not long ago.

Source
 

Chew

Senior Member.

Mick West

Administrator
Staff member

Attachments

  • christopher-campbell-complaint-jadehelm15.pdf
    1.2 MB · Views: 461
  • chris-barker-criminal-complaint-jadehelm15.pdf
    1.4 MB · Views: 444
  • walter-litteral-jadehelm15-complaint.pdf
    1.5 MB · Views: 492

BombDr

Senior Member.
Law enforcement seeks to imprison the first two of what will assuredly be millions of patriots.


Yes, Dahboo's alternative explanation that the Feds arrested these innocent Patriots for 'prepping'....

He doesn't mention the felonies or explosives, but why muddle things with detail...?

 

Spectrar Ghost

Senior Member.
He mentions the explosives.

But yeah, his implication the government is cracking down on preppers is pretty ludicrous. Certainly the three men in SC had gone way beyond that.
 

Thom

Banned
Banned
Half this thread should be moderated and thus deleted. It is completely off-topic to the discussion of the validity of the claim stated in the thread's title.
 

Jeremy

Active Member
Half this thread should be moderated and thus deleted. It is completely off-topic to the discussion of the validity of the claim stated in the thread's title.

Oh, really? Show us evidence gun-owning patriots are being disappeared.
 
Last edited:

Mick West

Administrator
Staff member
It's a discussion around a complex ongoing event. I will be allow it for now.

The majority of claims around Jade Helm were rather vague conspiracies about the government somehow imposing martial law, or just getting people used to seeing troops on the streets so they could impose martial law later. Seeing if this happens is part of debunking the claims.

But there's also something of a meta discussion here, people taking action, including shooting at soldiers, seems to be in part a reaction to conspiracy theories. The effects of conspiracy theories are important to consider.

The Oklahoma city bombing was the result of similar conspiracy theories.
 

Pigeonkak

Member
If you understand the security clearance process used to vet Special Operations members, you'll know that theses guys probably don't even have parking tickets. They certainly don't have domestic violence complaints, don't have DUIs or moving traffic violations, they have impeccable personal finances and credit scores, they love their mums and say please and thank you. They sometimes even have to declare basic conversations with law enforcement officers in case it causes a security clearance issue in the future. I think it is telling that these service members are being accused by CTs of unconstitutional activities and slandered by the notion that they'd repress US citizens. But at the same time these shooting suspects, with their previous convictions AND alleged drug use AND illegal firearms and explosives possession are lauded as patriots.

Just as the CTs are clutching for straws looking for evidence of Jade Helm mischief, they're clutching for straws in the search for 'patriot heroes'.

I think these news items are very valid in discrediting the anti-Jade Helm movement by bringing to light some of the nastier characters that conspiracy theories attract.
 

BombDr

Senior Member.
FreedomFighter2127 is again asserting that they were arrested for being 'preppers', and downplaying their explosive shenanigans....

 

Jeremy

Active Member
With the mass roundups and the military takeover of southwest U.S. failing to come to pass, they're going to focus on news like this in a desperate attempt to prove they're right.
 

BombDr

Senior Member.
With the mass roundups and the military takeover of southwest U.S. failing to come to pass, they're going to focus on news like this in a desperate attempt to prove they're right.

I think they will go one better, and claim that the actions of Bo, Luke and Daisy Duke here exposed their evil plans and prevented the the coming apocalypse by Obama and the Illuminati.

I might also go so far as to predict that when these patriotic intellectuals get released from custody, they will become the darlings of the conspiracy world and will be welcome on every CT site going...
 

Whitebeard

Senior Member.
With the mass roundups and the military takeover of southwest U.S. failing to come to pass, they're going to focus on news like this in a desperate attempt to prove they're right.
The CT;s are on a winning wicket whatever happens. If jade helm did every turn into a NWO martial law situation, then would scream 'told you so', and when it passes with only a few incidents like that they will cry 'see we stopped it'. Bullshit triumphs either way..

But that not accepting the fact that any government who REALLY wanted martial law wouldn't pussy foot around with exercises , it would be combat troops, road blocks, tanks and airstrikes on anyone who opposes them from day one. Not to say the logical thing would be to take down all the known preppers, CTs, etc first step.
 

MikeG

Senior Member.
This is from a 10 August post in The Daily Sheeple:



http://www.thedailysheeple.com/jade...-every-corner-of-america_082015#disqus_thread


The article follows with a collection of disparate “sightings” scattered across the country. It is as good an illustration of confirmation bias through misapplied correlations as I have seen.


They range from trains with military equipment being ferried across the country, to audio of gunfire in Texas, to “civil unrest” training in Maine.


In the last case, The Daily Sheeple cherry picked information from a cited Bangor Daily News article:



http://bangordailynews.com/2015/08/...st-training-with-military-police-test-skills/



The last part of the Sheeple article is interesting:




I have been seeing a number of recent conspiracy claims online linked to the Pope’s visit. Something for another thread.
 
Thread starter Related Articles Forum Replies Date
Mythic Suns Claim: chinless ghost photographed at a Police incident in Irvine, Ayrshire, Scotland Ghosts, Monsters, and the Paranormal 12
S Claim: Vaccinated English adults under 60 are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated people the same age Coronavirus COVID-19 25
Rory Claim: adverse reactions in Covid vaccine trials are not being recorded Coronavirus COVID-19 55
Rory Claim: Pfizer sponsors many mainstream TV shows (with the implication being that can lead to bad things) Coronavirus COVID-19 68
P Claim: 75 Deaths of athletes in Five Months are Because of COVID-19 vaccines Coronavirus COVID-19 11
T Claim: Roger N. Baldwin, co-founder of the ACLU, is a Communist General Discussion 0
D Help debunking local UFO claim Skydentify - What is that Thing in the Sky? 8
Rory Claim: Covid vaccines contains self-aware aluminum parasites Coronavirus COVID-19 44
T Claim: Offguardian article claiming that Covid PCR testing is flawed and not reliable Coronavirus COVID-19 8
Edward Current Does the beginning part of Gimbal debunk the claim that the object rotates? UFO Videos and Reports from the US Navy 13
SkepticSteve Claim: Existence of an Allied Forces Report about a 1963 Mass UFO Sighting in Europe UFOs and Aliens 10
Rory Claim: Harriet Hall says that acupuncture isn't "ancient" and maybe doesn't come from China Health and Quackery 0
Rory Debunked: UK undertaker's claim that Covid vaccine is responsible for spike in deaths Coronavirus COVID-19 7
Mick West Claim: Faraday Cage Experiment with radios contacts Non-Human Intelligence UFOs and Aliens 48
Oystein Debunked: Claim that Bobby McIlvaine's injuries ("lacerations") are best explained as result of glass shards and debris from bombs 9/11 22
J Claim: Genomic analysis of SARS-CoV-2 shows that it already existed in other countries such as France, India, Netherlands, England and United States Coronavirus COVID-19 1
D Claim: Videos of people exhaling vape smoke through a mask, demonstrate masks as useless against a virus.. Coronavirus COVID-19 42
Peter Robert Malone and Steve Kirsch claim spike protein is Cytotoxic Coronavirus COVID-19 19
Rory Claim: The Indian/Chinese systems of nadis/meridians have been proved by science because of hyaluronic acid and piezoelectricity Health and Quackery 113
V Needs debunking: flat earthers claim this reflection to show a harness in ISS video Flat Earth 10
T Claim: Communist Gus Hall express support for LBJ's Great Society Quotes Debunked 3
P Claim: Ghost of deceased Soldier, Freddy Jackson, captured in a photo UFOs and Aliens 18
T Claim: Heritage Foundation article asserts that Sex Ed programs encourage porn use General Discussion 6
T Claim: Willi Munzenberg said that ''We must make Western Civilisation stink'' Quotes Debunked 2
H CLAIM: USS Omaha videos were taken on the ship's "Combat Information Center" by "VIPER team" UFO Videos and Reports from the US Navy 5
gtoffo CLAIM: Sen. Martin Heinrich on UFOs (Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Member) UFO Videos and Reports from the US Navy 10
R Flat Earth Claim: "The Greatest Laser Experiment In History" - FECORE Flat Earth 11
Mick West Claim that the Nimitz FLIR1 object could not be a plane because it would have been Identified UFO Videos and Reports from the US Navy 54
T Claim: Jim Hoffman's "9/11 progressive collapse challenge" can't be met 9/11 353
BigFatAtheist Claim: MI Court: Michigan Secretary of State’s Absentee Ballot Order Broke Law, Vindicating Trump Claim Election 2020 6
TEEJ Debunked: Claim that Joe Biden's hand passes through microphone during White House press gaggle, 16th March 2021 Election 2020 9
S Claim: "Most U.S. terror deaths have come from 'extreme right wing groups' in recent years" General Discussion 14
G Claim: China refused to hand "key data" to WHO delegation during the recent investigation in Wuhan Coronavirus COVID-19 29
P Claim: NASA tried to stop Spielberg's 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' Quotes Debunked 21
Mick West Mike Lindell's 2-Hour Election Fraud Claim Video "Absolute Proof": Hacking Claims Election 2020 7
P Claim: NASA cuts ISS livestream after "Millennium Falcon UFO" enters the frame UFOs and Aliens 16
P Claim: Admiral Byrd's "secret diary" proves hollow earth Flat Earth 9
P Claim: UFOs appeared at the Stadio Artemio Franchi in Florence UFOs and Aliens 15
P Claim: 1990 Calvine UFO UFOs and Aliens 25
P Claim: Men in black "Threatened a hotel manager" in 2009 UFOs and Aliens 14
P "Deleted Votes" Claim, 2020 Election, Erie County, New York Election 2020 16
T Claim: Thousands of fraudulent votes in Georgia cast by felons, dead, underage voters Election 2020 6
Rory Claim: Li Hongzhi (founder of Falun Gong) was made an honorary citizen of Houston, Atlanta and Georgia People Debunked 1
P Claim: "Dogman" spotted on a Facebook livestream Ghosts, Monsters, and the Paranormal 35
Mick West Debunked: Claim that the Electoral College Count On Jan 6 will Change the Election Election 2020 136
P Claim: Biden campaign short code '30330' is veiled message Election 2020 29
Mick West Debunked: Trump's Claim of "1,126,940 votes created out of thin air" in PA Election 2020 9
P Claim: UFO Black Knight Satellite spotted over Philippines UFO Videos and Reports from the US Navy 3
Mick West Explained: Trump's Claim of Suspicious Early Morning Michigan Bump [It's Detroit] Election 2020 1
Mick West Claim: R-Squared Coefficient of Determination as a Election Fraud Signal Election 2020 5
Related Articles


















































Related Articles

Top