Claim:Republicans block bill to stop terrorists from buying guns

deirdre

Senior Member.
Neither Congress, guns nor terrorism is one of my strong suits.. so I'm wondering what i'm missing here.

Alex Jones (Infowars) in thier list of why
SAN BERNARDINO SHOOTING HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS

says (bold mine)



other liberal papers seem to repeat this "no-fly zone" claim as well

it seems to me this "on the no-fly list" is just inference (? not sure that's the right word) Because the bill doesnt read that way at all. The bill, the way it's written, and looking up the definition of "domestic terrorism" is way to vague and does not at all focus on the "no-fly list" only.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1076


But my question: from the page of the Bill, i see NO activity on it since last March. So that means Alex Jones is full of it, right? or am i missing something? Are some debates about bills not recorded under "activity?"



and just to show how wide the definition of "domestic terrorism" is (quoted in the bill), and why i believe this Bill has zero chance of ever getting passed:
(5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
 

Svartbjørn

Senior Member.
Neither Congress, guns nor terrorism is one of my strong suits.. so I'm wondering what i'm missing here.

Alex Jones (Infowars) in thier list of why
SAN BERNARDINO SHOOTING HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS

says (bold mine)



other liberal papers seem to repeat this "no-fly zone" claim as well

it seems to me this "on the no-fly list" is just inference (? not sure that's the right word) Because the bill doesnt read that way at all. The bill, the way it's written, and looking up the definition of "domestic terrorism" is way to vague and does not at all focus on the "no-fly list" only.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1076


But my question: from the page of the Bill, i see NO activity on it since last March. So that means Alex Jones is full of it, right? or am i missing something? Are some debates about bills not recorded under "activity?"



and just to show how wide the definition of "domestic terrorism" is (quoted in the bill), and why i believe this Bill has zero chance of ever getting passed:
(5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or

The only thing I can find De, is references to Republican POTUS candidates blocking it, but nothing about any actual debates being blocked, unless thats something thats literally happened in the last few hours on CSPAN or something. Im not really sure.

http://commongunsense.me/tag/donald-trump/
 

Svartbjørn

Senior Member.
what does that mean? like in their campaign speeches?

Thats what it looks like.. honestly I have no idea. I cant find anything aside from political rags talking about it, so it MAY not have even happened.. they may be referencing the action you saw earlier this year

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1076

but thats ALL I can find from any credible sources. Ill check CSPAN when I get home tonight and see if there were any emergency meetings after the LA Shootings to see what the deal was, but at this point I cant find squat that says there's been any stalling or even talk about any kind of gun control debate in regards to the legislation.
 

deirdre

Senior Member.
Ill check CSPAN
ah. thanks. that article from the daily news says "tuesday". maybe only actual debates are registered on the Bill activity. ?

add: looks like Pelosi made the "terrorist watchlist" 'claim".. :) i thought she would have retired by now.
 
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Mick West

Administrator
Staff member
Something of that nature happened:
http://www.democraticleader.gov/new...ontinue-to-allow-terror-suspects-to-buy-guns/
More detailed procedural explanation in the house:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r114:1:./temp/~r114xN1tM8:e48271:
 

Mick West

Administrator
Staff member
I think maybe the mentions of the no-fly list are shorthand for:

As such people would be on the no-fly list.

Of course it's a problematic law, as it basically give the AG the right the deny a gun to anyone they want.
 

Svartbjørn

Senior Member.
Of course it's a problematic law, as it basically give the AG the right the deny a gun to anyone they want.


Ahh, ok, that might be why the pubs are blocking it then lol.. here I thought my google powers were epic and Mick goes n shows me up :p
 

deirdre

Senior Member.
Ahh, ok, that might be why the pubs are blocking it then lol.. here I thought my google powers were epic and Mick goes n shows me up :p
i would think not many libs are for it either based on the wording.. but i could be wrong. still it was 'brought up' at least in COngress. kinda funny Infowars is using liberal 'propaganda' to support his false flag theory! and PELOSI propaganda..lol. thats a new low Alex!
 

Svartbjørn

Senior Member.
i would think not many libs are for it either based on the wording.. but i could be wrong. still it was 'brought up' at least in COngress. kinda funny Infowars is using liberal 'propaganda' to support his false flag theory! and PELOSI propaganda..lol. thats a new low Alex!

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