Claim -- Drone opening fire on target in NJ, or possibly plane opening fire one a drone?

[JMartJr]

Just saw this video in FaceBook Reels, supposedly taken "tonight" in Seabright, NJ. Video appears to show tracer rounds coming from an aircraft at night.

https://fb.watch/wsyg_pdwej/

Frame screengrabbed...

 

[Nicole Schnaß]

There is no time, no date, no destination by the video. It was done intentionally, so that no verification can take place. This was done for clickbaiting and not to want to know what could happen there. Than the owner claims he has more blured picture of other drone shootings. Thats not a file for metabunk.

 

[Mendel]

Do tracer rounds look like that? From that angle and distance?
I'm inclined to call it fake.

 

[JMartJr]

Thats not a file for metabunk.

Nonetheless, since it is here now, I found it posted on 4chan's /x/, where it was downloadable easily, so am sticking it here in case the FB Reel gets deleted. Not that it was posted there yesterday, so is at least that old.

I've seen folks here work miracles before, so seemed worth putting up for y'all to look at.

 

[john.phil]

Kiro newsradio claims to have obtained the footage from a NJ police officer.

KIRO Newsradio obtains video as mysterious drones reach Western Washington

One video captured by a New Jersey police officer, obtained by KIRO Newsradio, shows what appears to be a larger drone, flying at a slow speed, shoot out or launch multiple smaller drones at a relatively high speed.

source: https://mynorthwest.com/4019410/kir...s-mysterious-drones-reach-western-washington/

 

[Calter]

Someone posted this on reddit a few hours ago.


Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1hdntnj/alleged_nj_drone_videoed_shootingfiring_at_target/


The Tik Tok video provides a location and a date: Middletown NJ by the bay, 12/12/24

One of the comments claims it's a planned training exercise

Helicopters doing training at the Warren Grove Training Ground. It's on their calendar:
Source: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4342077232686622&set=p.4342077232686622&type=3

It sounds reasonable but I'm not really sure where "Warren Grove Training Ground" is (google sends me to "Warren Grove Range" and Warren Grove doesn't really seem to be close to the location, but I'm not from NJ)

 

[john.phil]

One of the comments claims it's a planned training exercise

This is the calendar in question. Yellow labels are for rotary wing aerial gunnery training:

source: https://www.tapinto.net/towns/borde...e-jbmdl-releases-december-2024-noise-calendar

 

[MonkeeSage]

I downloaded the video from the facebook reel and extracted the frames and I noticed a couple of oddities.

Video from FB (downloaded with "yt-dlp -f hd"):

At frame 70, the projectile seems to change direction (from roughly horizontal to like 20 degrees down), and frame 71 seems to be a duplicate frame. It would be nice to have the raw video to see if it shows these same features.

Frame 67

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[ManInBlack]

Just saw this video in FaceBook Reels, supposedly taken "tonight" in Seabright, NJ. Video appears to show tracer rounds coming from an aircraft at night.

https://fb.watch/wsyg_pdwej/

Frame screengrabbed...
View attachment 74514

Could this be it? Someone shooting from the ground.


Source: https://www.tiktok.com/@primetime.real/video/7448070886424415510?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7448175798035957255

 

[Mendel]

At frame 70, the projectile seems to change direction (from roughly horizontal to like 20 degrees down),

could be a guided missile

and frame 71 seems to be a duplicate frame.

could be an artifact of frame rate conversion

It would be nice to have the raw video to see if it shows these same features.

yes

 

[Mendel]

Could this be it? Someone shooting from the ground.

that's a fake
see https://www.metabunk.org/threads/wa...ent-in-real-time-is-amazing.13824/post-330374

 

[JMartJr]

that's a fake
see https://www.metabunk.org/threads/wa...ent-in-real-time-is-amazing.13824/post-330374

Thank goodness! I remain deeply concerned that this sort of thing will happen or has happened. A video like this that might encourage or inspire some moron is bad, but not as bad as if it were real as at least in this one case it didn't happen.

 

[Greene]

Do tracer rounds look like that? From that angle and distance?

Possibly, it looks more like tracer rounds than a missile or rocket.

FWIW the main gun on the Apache has a cyclic rate of around 600 rounds per minute. Just eyeballing the timing a standard 4 to 1 tracer mix would fit.

could be a guided missile

could be an artifact of frame rate conversion

yes

If it is gunfire, tracers (and standard rounds) tend to deflect when they pass through a target/object.

I'm not saying it is gunfire, but the video isn't inconsistent with tracers.