Athletes would be affected the most by air toxicity (spraying), but are they ?

Leifer

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Claims often are: 'Harmful chemicals (toxins) are being sprayed from planes and airliners in the form of supposed "chemtrails".....and these toxins are making the human population sick.' (or dying)

BACKGROUND:
Taking a distance step back from this idea, and looking at this from an overall perspective, one might look at, or compare different segments of the population.......their location(s), and also consider how much outdoor air they are exposed to. (or unfiltered indoor air)
Plus, the shear amount of air intake, by aerobic athletes, as compared to not as much air-intake by non-athletes.

If this were a clinical study, it might survey and compare results from different population segments (over years), and a highlighted separation of those who exercise in a "cardiovascular" routine (high heart rate, therefore breathe more air) on a regular basis.....vs. those who do not exercise in that manner, or who live without exercise.

These types could be discounted, because of too many variables:
*those who spend an above average daily time outdoors. (indoor air is normally filter-free)
*those who spend an above average time indoors in a highly filtered air environment (a very small segment).
*those who may engage in both (inconclusive results).

To me, the significant variables to compare are:
*people that practice athletics that require a large intake of air, as in heavy cardiovascular (aerobic) activities.
*people who do not engage in heavy/deep cardiovascular activities. (normal, non exercising persons).
* where (location) of the above two groups live (areas of industrial pollution, or rural areas, free of most industrial pollution (city) locations.

The difference being measured...."How much volume of air is being digested, between the two groups".
And if the volume of air intake on a daily or weekly basis is higher in one group over another, shouldn't the higher air intake group exhibit more toxicity, if indeed there is a widespread chemical release via "chemtrail" emissions ?? If this was so, shouldn't we see an increase in ailments among aerobic athletes, over those that are not ?

I think it is wise to discern the groups between "city" and "rural", because of automobile, truck, and other industrial emissions often found in congestive cities.

The above quotes specify city pollution, because cities are the most obvious source, with all the vehicle combustion emissions, and/or cities that don't meterologically refresh their volume of city air, like SLC, Utah.
However....in the idea of "chemtrails".....the lines in the sky are seen equally over rural locations or oceans.....and sometimes even less over major cities.

The point being, I have yet to find any increase or "spike", where aerobic athletes have succumbed to health problems specifically related to the claimed toxins because of "trails in the sky"......as athletes would be the most vulnerable, if it were true.

More results of the healthiness of aerobic exercise can be found....
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=aerobic exercise&btnG=&as_sdt=1,5&as_sdtp=
 
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WeedWhacker

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The point being, I have yet to find any increase or "spike", where aerobic athletes have succumbed to health problems specifically related to the claimed toxins because of "trails in the sky"......as athletes would be the most vulnerable, if it were true.
Indeed. As would the average "jogger"...a commonplace activity, has been for several decades by now.

Yet? No statistical correlation to disease, as a result. (the exact opposite is considered, for those who jog....an over-all health improvement).

Excellent work, well thought-out!
 

Cairenn

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During the BP spill in the Gulf, folks were reporting 'health problems' from the 'fumes'. I kept pointing out that there are several greyhound tracks along the Gulf coast, and they never lost a day of racing.

Greyhounds, have very little body fat and they are known to be sensitive to toxins that will not bother other breeds of dogs.
 

Leifer

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Bird loss is sometimes a sign of toxicity, yet no bird loss has been attributed (by ornithologists) to trails in the sky.....that I am aware of.
 
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captfitch

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Pilots themselves would be the most affected due to the highly increased concentrations at altitude yet there's no obvious medical problems with that group.
 

Leifer

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I'm not claiming definitively that the "white trails" are not toxic to "exercising humans" or birds, I'm saying the evidence is not there, and may contribute to the null hypothesis.
 

Efftup

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Dammit!! and I thought there was going to be a really good excuse for staying in your mum;s basement on the internet all day instead of getting out and getting some air!!! :p
 

deirdre

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The point being, I have yet to find any increase or "spike", where aerobic athletes have succumbed to health problems specifically related to the claimed toxins because of "trails in the sky"......as athletes would be the most vulnerable, if it were true.
I don't know. I think you need ALOT more data here.


are there studies showing athletes specifically suffer more health issues from regular pollution?
 

Leifer

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http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/3088377
http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/35/4/214.abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1483256/
https://www.thieme-connect.com/products/ejournals/abstract/10.1055/s-2005-837660
 
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deirdre

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cool. now They just have to show that athletic performance is worse when ( or after) contrails are present : )


and that its not due to lack of sleep, poor hydration, muscle pain type stuff, blood sugar levels.
 

deirdre

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small study but at least it's an actual health issue
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9059477
 

Leifer

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....and that any health effects cannot necessarily be associated with such singular events as, say..... a two-week period of Olympic Games in smog-filled cities, such as Beijing, or Mexico City. Results need to be quantified in the area in which the athletes train, throughout the year.
....or better, the area where the average aerobic athlete resides and exercises on a regular basis.
 

Leifer

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I was interviewed for a 1 year job in Shanghai, China. (not known for many trails in the sky, but some)
Because of the city's heavy industrial and automotive pollution, it was strongly recommended that if I intended to exercise at all, that it be indoors, where the air is filtered -- because of the well acknowledged outdoor air pollution.
 

Leifer

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...a few links and quotes for the 2016 Olympics......and a place not too known for "chemtrails" or it's claimed problems....

 
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