Are 99% of COVID-19 Deaths Among the Unvaccinated?

Mendel

Senior Member.
How can 99% of deaths be unvaccinated with information like below publicly available?

"Vermont pretty much blew Fauci's data out of the water for September. "
Here's how: you compare May/June with September as if nothing happened in the meantime:
the 99.2% figure is out of date .
Multiple sources give this figure for the unvaccinated deaths in June,
However the same number came from an AP analysis of government data for May

Consider also:
If everyone is vaccinated, then all deaths are 100% vaccinated. That doesn't mean the vaccination got worse, it just means there are no unprotected people left to die.
Vermont has managed to protect its vulnerable elderly and the health care workers almost entirely:
Article:
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Because so few unvaccinated vulnerable people are left, Vermont has very few deaths overall, and most of them are vaccinated. This is good.
Your chance of survival is better with protection.

Vermont is still the state with lowest number of Covid deaths per capita in the nation; they must be doing something right!

P.S.: the proper way to study vaccine effectiveness is to match 1000 unvaccinated never infected with 1000 vaccinated never infected and compare what happens; and you can do thr same for previously infected. We've referenced recent studies of this type in the Covid News thread.
 
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Agent K

Senior Member
How can 99% of deaths be unvaccinated with information like below publicly available?

"Vermont pretty much blew Fauci's data out of the water for September. "Just eight of the 33 Vermonters who died of Covid-19 in September were unvaccinated, the Vermont Department of Heath said Wednesday." Take a look:"
https://vermontdailychronicle.com/2021/09/30/76-of-september-covid-19-deaths-are-vaxxed-breakthroughs/

Vermont — 76% of September Covid deaths were Fully Vaccinated…​


https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/vermont-76-of-september-covid-deaths-were-fully-vaccinated/

Check out the September statistics out of King County, Washington, where Seattle is located.
Fully vaccinated people were 42 TIMES less likely to die of COVID-19 related illness, and out of those who died, 25% were fully vaccinated. If you only saw the 25% figure, would you have guessed the 97.6% vaccine effectiveness?

 

Mendel

Senior Member.
Fully vaccinated people were 42 TIMES less likely to die of COVID-19 related illness, and out of those who died, 25% were fully vaccinated.
So if deaths are 1:3, and effectiveness is 1:42, then the underlying proportion of vulnerable people must be 1:14, because 14×3=42. That's approcimately a 7% to 93% split, and looking at https://kingcounty.gov/depts/health/covid-19/data/vaccination.aspx (select "demographics") I find that all age groups over 60 are that well vaccinated, and the over-50s are getting there.

In other words, 75% of the deaths come from a 7% strong segment of vulnerable unvaccinated people. (This is a very rough approximation; if we went into more detail, we'd need to look at each age group separately because they're differently vulnerable, with the younger age groups contributing less overall vulnerability.)

P.S. I'm unable to post a screenshot of the data because it doesnt fit my screen.
 

Agent K

Senior Member
So if deaths are 1:3, and effectiveness is 1:42, then the underlying proportion of vulnerable people must be 1:14, because 14×3=42. That's approximately a 7% to 93% split, and looking at https://kingcounty.gov/depts/health/covid-19/data/vaccination.aspx (select "demographics") I find that all age groups over 60 are that well vaccinated, and the over-50s are getting there.

In other words, 75% of the deaths come from a 7% strong segment of vulnerable unvaccinated people. (This is a very rough approximation; if we went into more detail, we'd need to look at each age group separately because they're differently vulnerable, with the younger age groups contributing less overall vulnerability.)

P.S. I'm unable to post a screenshot of the data because it doesnt fit my screen.
I did the same calculation. Their vaccination coverage is up there with Vermont's.

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