Apollo 12 photo: Is this censorship?

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Miss VocalCord

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Indeed the tape is confirmed here:
AS12-46-6868
View of lunar surface through the LMP (right) window. The shadows of the high-gain antenna and the flag are visible. In the distance is the deployed ALSEP. Frame is compromised by adhesive tape.
https://history.nasa.gov/afj/ap12fj/photos/46-y.html
AS12-47-7021
View from LMP's window; part of a panorama. Includes shadow of S-band antenna. Partially obscured by adhesive tape.
https://history.nasa.gov/afj/ap12fj/photos/47-v.html
 
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Ravi

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Why is there a green card over the sky in photo AS12-46-6868 from the Apollo image atlas (70mm Hasselblad, Apollo 12, Magazine Y) on the Lunar and Planetary Institute website?

Is it to cover obvious artifacts? If so the artifacts must be on the original film.


Source: https://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS12-46-6868

Another example: photo AS12-47-7021


Source: https://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS12-47-7021

I am very amazed you already made the conclusion "something was covered up".
Can you please explain why you made this gigantic leap in your though process? Just curious how your mind works.


EDIT,
Perhaps I misunderstood you OP.
 
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FatPhil

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MyMatesBrainwashed

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Why would you think the masters of fakery would resort to tape instead of CGI?

"Hey boss, Jeff's wandered into set again and got on this photo. Should we redo it or bin it?"

"NO!!!!!!!! That photo's amazing and we must have it. Just stick some tape over it."

"There might be some free time on the CGI6000 this afternoon. I could probably paint him out."

"I SAID TAPE!!!!!!"
 

Ravi

Senior Member.
Why would you think the masters of fakery would resort to tape instead of CGI?

"Hey boss, Jeff's wandered into set again and got on this photo. Should we redo it or bin it?"

"NO!!!!!!!! That photo's amazing and we must have it. Just stick some tape over it."

"There might be some free time on the CGI6000 this afternoon. I could probably paint him out."

"I SAID TAPE!!!!!!"
Sounds like "guy who decides NASA". ;)
 

purpleivan

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According to Apollo Flight Journal it is tape (images at bottom of the page).

"AS12-46-6868
View of lunar surface through the LMP (right) window. The shadows of the high-gain antenna and the flag are visible. In the distance is the deployed ALSEP. Frame is compromised by adhesive tape."

Same said for AS12-47-7021
 

Easy Muffin

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For example: What is this in photo AS12-46-6849?

6849.jpg

Source: https://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS12-46-6849


6849_zoom.jpg
An artifact from the scanning process I'd assume. When you look at the original scan (https://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/DatabaseImages/ISD/highres/AS12/AS12-46-6849.JPG) you can see a similar blemish about halfway down near the right edge. It's not even part of the image frame so most likely something in or on the scanning machine.
Another might be the bright spot near the centre in the astronaut's(?) shadow.

These kind of artifacts are quite common and they seem to crop up every now and then amongst UFO people too from what I've come across on Youtube etc. When there happen to be three of these close together it's evidence of a triangle craft etc. Actually the linked image is an example of that too when you look hard enough as there's a small trianglish looking thing in the top left corner.
 

FatPhil

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Indeed as @Easy Muffin says there is quite a lot of blemish artifacts on all the different Apollo pictures, it was introduced on the film itself, by the glass plate containing the reseau marks, static electric discharge, during the scanning process, etc, etc.

Some info on how they did the rescan of all the old films for the most recent versions can be read here:
http://apollo.sese.asu.edu/ABOUT_SCANS/index.html

And finally, proof of alien life crawling across the surface of the moon: http://apollo.sese.asu.edu/ABOUT_SCANS/AllFrames.mp4
 

Ravi

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Indeed as @Easy Muffin says there is quite a lot of blemish artifacts on all the different Apollo pictures, it was introduced on the film itself, by the glass plate containing the reseau marks, static electric discharge, during the scanning process, etc, etc.

Some info on how they did the rescan of all the old films for the most recent versions can be read here:
http://apollo.sese.asu.edu/ABOUT_SCANS/index.html
And these are the images developed on Earth. There were (earlier) systems in certain early missions where the development of the film was done while in space, in orbit. Pretty impressive and for sure prone to artefacts.
 
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