Andrews Air Force Base, Maryland ATC tower talks to military helicopters about drone activity nearby on 14th December 2024

TEEJ

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Andrews Air Force Base link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrews_Air_Force_Base

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Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNc_Xakv00Y


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He identified them as drones with green and red lights? Any known models that can out fly a helicopter?
There's always this chase over Tucson, AZ, back in 2021.

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The drone made "erratic maneuvers" and entered military airspace at a height of 14,000 feet with speeds of over 100 mph while outrunning both Tucson Police and CPD helicopters, according to the report. While the crew thought that the unmanned aircraft's battery would be depleted during the hour-long chase by two police helicopters, it was able to escape.
https://dronexl.co/2021/06/24/highly-customized-drone/

To my knowledge, this incident was never resolved.
 
This is a classic "chase" of an astronomical body - a bright star or planet.

It's hard to believe that functional adults don't understand that things that are really far away - like the Moon and stars - will seem to "pace" your vehicle when you move and will "stop" when you stop... But there it is.
 
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He identified them as drones with green and red lights? Any known models that can out fly a helicopter?
Yeah. Well, not a drone, but people have given chase to a hovering planet Venus, thinking it was a UFO, and had it race away from them -- no matter how fast they went, it stayed ahead of them!

Example: "Floyd" the UFO, chased in Ohio and Pennsylvania by law enforcement officers in 1966 -- https://www.metabunk.org/threads/a-plane-mistaken-for-a-drone.13788/post-328806
 
Disney's multiplane camera, and the Moon.



Besides being merely unrealistic, the old-fashioned flat background could also create a false effect. For instance, when the camera moves closer to a moonlit scene, everything grows larger, including the Moon. However, in reality, when you walk along a country road toward the Moon, it certainly doesn't grow larger like this, nor does it shrink in size when you walk away.
Everyone knows that, right? Wrong... apparently.

The problem was how to take a painting and make it behave like a real piece of scenery under the camera. The trouble was that we were photographing a flat, two-dimensional background. So, we set about making plans and blueprints for a new cartoon camera that would overcome this issue.

The different elements in the scene were separated according to their varying distances from the viewer. This placed the moon on a plane farthest away from the camera. With our original picture broken down in this manner, it became possible to control the relative speed with which each individual part moved toward or away from the camera. However, the moon remained absolutely still and, as a result, would always remain the same, neither growing nor shrinking in size.

Since this new camera used many planes, we called it the multiplane camera. Here is our same moonlight scene as seen through the multiplane camera. As you can see, we finally got the Moon to keep its proper distance.

I don't think many people have chased the Moon or Sun... but man, have a lot of them chased Venus and Sirius.

The red and green lights? How about chromatic scintillation? That's another thing people have never heard of or seen before... apparently.
 
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I don't think many people have chased the Moon or Sun...
But everybody has been in the car and watched the moon out the window as it paces along with you. Just not everybody internalizes that experience and then generalizes it into later moments looking at things in the sky.
 

How did they know they were within a mile of it?
Was the drones location being reported by radar?
How was the drones location above Upper Marlboro determined?
Was this based on the one mile distance report and the bearing too it?
Bearing they could easily determine, but again what was the distance value based on?
Also, the mention of Zone 3, what is its shape and where are its borders?

Unfortunate they did not have multiple helicopters, if a drone is running away from a helicopter have it retain stationary and have other helicopters try to circle around it and come at it from another direction. If all helicopters see it moving away in the same direction, even when they are well north/south or east/west of it then they are chasing a very distant object. Like a planet...

Has anybody ever managed an organized chase of one of these drones, using multiple air vehicles?
 
I assume there is no chance of getting flight tracks of the helicopter(s) that were chasing after the drones? If they are meant to be patrolling and providing security I doubt they are broadcasting their location publicly?

There's no military traffic visible on ADSB at that time, although by coincidence this American Airlines 737 passed right over the base just before 7.20pm. It's hard to believe that it's linked, but it would be interesting to know if the AA pilot saw anything...

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