"An Unconventional Shade of Grey" - Michael J. Murphy new Film

George B

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Well, it is about time they are going to do some In situ sampling. But who and how could be very important. Could be botched badly.
 

Mick West

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Well, it is about time they are going to do some In situ sampling. But who and how could be very important. Could be botched badly.
Indeed, and it's a bit unfortunate that he explains this with video of what looks like a Cessna 152, which has a ceiling of 14,700ft
 

George B

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Wow! That is unfortunate but might be very easy to debunk as well. Always look for the silver lining!
 

George B

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If one was to do a study properly, wonder what it would cost? How many flights, how many samples, how many locations, what equipment, what airframe, etc?
 

TEEJ

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The mindset within the chemtrail community is that the chemtrails are being sprayed at lower levels. With that in mind I expect that they hope to capture a sample underneath one of these "low level chemtrails"? A sample taken at say 15,000 feet under a "chemtrail" is as good as anything for the believers. What is to stop them submitting a doctored sample from such a flight? Any amount of Barium, Strontium, Aluminium would be enough for them to claim victory. Take into consideration how the chemtrail community currently interpret rain and soil samples?

Harry Rhodes in the UK is on the record of enquiring about hiring the same aircraft used by the UK Met Office. A Cessna 421 operated by DO Systems. As pointed out by WeedWhacker the optimum altitude is 25,000 feet for this Cessna, but it is good enough to get them nearer the chemicals that they believe are falling to the ground.

https://www.metabunk.org/look-up-or...gineering-conference.t4078/page-2#post-122834

https://www.metabunk.org/look-up-or...gineering-conference.t4078/page-2#post-123066

Is Murphy on the record in believing this low-level spraying theory? Is he on record for example of supporting Rosario Marciano (Tanker Enemy) with this constant theme of "sprayers caught at 6,000 feet"?
 

Mick West

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Harry Rhodes in the UK is on the record of enquiring about hiring the same aircraft used by the UK Met Office. A Cessna 421 operated by DO Systems. As pointed out by WeedWhacker the optimum altitude is 25,000 feet for this Cessna, but it is good enough to get them nearer the chemicals that they believe are falling to the ground.
You can get contrails at 25,000, or much lower in the UK in winter. I saw some at 25,000 in California just a couple of weeks ago. https://www.metabunk.org/persistent-cumuliform-contrails-at-25-000-feet-over-california.t6299/
 

David Fraser

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Michael Murphy is trying to raise funds for his next movie "An Unconventional Shade of Grey". He is asking for donations at this site

http://www.unconventionalgrey.com/

He also offers a link to his Class Action Lawsuit page http://geoengineeringactionnetwork.org/ which asks people to join if they have suffered any of the following:


http://geoengineeringactionnetwork.org/?page_id=17


Are there any symptoms not covered there? ;)
 

Efftup

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Are there any symptoms not covered there? ;)[/QUOTE]
Michael Murphy is trying to raise funds for his next movie "An Unconventional Shade of Grey". He is asking for donations at this site

http://www.unconventionalgrey.com/

He also offers a link to his Class Action Lawsuit page http://geoengineeringactionnetwork.org/ which asks people to join if they have suffered any of the following:


http://geoengineeringactionnetwork.org/?page_id=17


Are there any symptoms not covered there? ;)
These read like the typical list of symptoms found in the possible side effects for ANY medicine, for the obvious reason that most of them have MANY causes s it;s impossible to prove what caused them
 

Trailblazer

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And he's in a Piper Saratoga II HP, which has a ceiling of 20,000 feet. I guarantee he got nowhere near those contrails.
 

Rico

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He now admitted that it was a challenge due to elevation. So he changed his story to finding "chem-bombs" and apparently got one sampled.

He probably flew through one random low-level cloud, called it a "chem-bomb", and will likely be manipulating data to fit his claims, even though the video he linked said that chem-bombs were stratospheric o_O
 

Hama Neggs

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He now admitted that it was a challenge due to elevation. So he changed his story to finding "chem-bombs" and apparently got one sampled.

He probably flew through one random low-level cloud, called it a "chem-bomb", and will likely be manipulating data to fit his claims, even though the video he linked said that chem-bombs were stratospheric o_O
I can't figure out what people mean by "chem bombs". Some say it's the weather balloon type thing that the HAARP Report guy caught exploding, and some others seem to think it's clouds building over islands at sea, and still others that it's afternoon thunderheads blooming over the midwest.
 

Leifer

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You could almost imagine these tests as promotion or hype for some kind of film (??)

Maui "Chem Bomb" activist Bruce Douglas is seen with him at the airport, in one of MM's videos.
Bruce explains the Chm bombs near Hawaii are being blown over the pacific, and are the clouds above their heads now, in Burbank, CA.
Some moisture could be, but the clouds would be different, as they evolved over the Pacific.
......and picked up/dropped off moisture along the ocean path.

I wonder if he'll test a variety of elements, to rule-out or rule-in variables. (Like dust/dirt)....not just the 3 killers.
 

Balance

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Can't wait to see the sample analysis of coal fly ash. What happened to strontium barium and aluminiunm btw? Has the formula changed and I didn't get the memo?
 

Hama Neggs

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At about 34:00 in this vid Murphy talks about how "risky" it is to be trying this sampling and says: "There's a possibility that they could just spray steam, you know, inert water up in the sky". :D

 

Hama Neggs

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In that vid, at about 52:00 the host speaks about the possible ALTITUDE of "chembombs" and such and asks Murphy what type of aircraft he plans to use to get up to them. Murphy completely misses or sidesteps the question and talks about the DISTANCE they may have to fly. o_O
 

Trailblazer

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He's going to use this bottle to sample the chemtrails:
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I'm a bit puzzled by this flask. It is a dry ice condenser trap. I don't see how it would be any use for trying to collect particulates from the air.

Available on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brinkman-dr...ervoir-dewar-with-bottom-valve-/191669714207?

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This equipment is used to condense out the solvent vapours removed from, eg, a rotary evaporation. I have no idea how this would be relevant to collecting a sample from the air. It might possibly be used in preparing the sample for analysis, but I would think the lab would do that.

This is how it works: the glass "finger" in the top is filled with dry ice. The air stream containing the vapours comes in at the left and out at the right, and the solvent vapour condenses on the cold glass and drips into the round flask at the bottom.

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Balance

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Well, we're constantly told the air is too dry for contrails to form so could it be dry ice crystals they hope to sample? :)
 

Trailblazer

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This trap would normally be connected to a rotary evaporator - you use the rotary evaporator to boil off the solvent and this trap collects the solvent, leaving whatever was dissolved in the rotavap flask.

My guess is that he is going to collect a load of dust from the air using a filter or something. Then he is going to wash it all into a flask with solvent. Then he is going to boil the solvent off to concentrate all the particles of "whatever", and then he is going to report MASSIVE CONCENTRATIONS OF METALS.
 
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NoParty

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My guess is that he is going to collect a load of dust from the air using a filter or something. Then he is going to wash it all into a flask with solvent. Then he is going to boil the solvent off to concentrate all the particles of "whatever", and then he is going to report MASSIVE CONCENTRATIONS OF METALS.
Some science can be reported before it'a actually carried out! :)

Yes, a safe bet that all Michael J. Murphy roads will lead to "MASSIVE CONCENTRATIONS OF METALS."

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tadaaa

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So in the words of Matt Damon (in the Martian) he is going to "science the sh1t" out of it

Maybe some progress then
 

Efftup

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This does smell very much like the fact that as people have told him to get up and sample a contrail, he needs to SHOW the followers that he made a proper scientific effort. Any debunking of how high he actually got, the fact he is making no attempt to work out what plane left the trail, that he has a random piece of "Science" equipment rather than a proper collection apparatus will be dismissed as Ad Hominem attacks and he can then go on to make the claim that he found MCoM and thus us vindicated, and as an aside F*&k YOU Dane Wiggington!!!!! Now Michael J Murphy is back on top as Chemtrail Master!!!! Mwahahahahahaha.
 
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