1. tryblinking

    tryblinking Senior Member

    Now I don't for one second believe that these symptoms presented after contact with anything sprayed at cruise altitude, but as a demonstration of psychosomaticism, it's fascinating.



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  2. Jay Reynolds

    Jay Reynolds Senior Member

    Just think that a chain of idiotic claims beginning with A.C. Griffith ten years ago, carried by William Thomas and Clifford Carnicom, then taken up by Dane Wigington and Francis Mangels, then carried worldwide by an unemployed conspiracy theorist/"Movie Producer" Michael J. Murphy, now promoted by an illiterate Al Dicicco has had the result that a person who may or may not have a real problem could become so disturbed.

    And every single bit of it is totally baseless worthless crap talk.
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  3. tryblinking

    tryblinking Senior Member

    People love to believe they have a right to wallow in persecution and victimization. You can't smell a bonfire from 10km away, and that's laterally, where there's a chance that a component of the winds might be in your favour. The laterally laminar flow at cruise altitude precludes appreciable vertical descent for fine particles, so that chance falls from negligible to none.
    Not to mention the logical disconnect of everyone else breathing the same air and feeling fine.

    One of my favourite parts is this gem:

    No, the poor chap overlooks the probability that the EMT thought he was nuts, and tried to tune out the stream of psychosis to focus on his job.
  4. stars15k

    stars15k New Member

    This was the best laugh I've had all day......well, second best. The first best was when Dutchsinse tried to use his own videos as confirmation of his theories. I am constantly telling people online that sickness beneath "chemtrails" is either unrelated or psychosomatic. It is easily proven given the terminal velocity of something as small as a "chemtrail" particle would require 24+hours to fall to breathable level in a column of still air. Such talk usually baffles them completely. But no one has ever tried to prove me wrong.....
  5. Jay Reynolds

    Jay Reynolds Senior Member

    I read his story, and saw that he takes lots of herbs. I also looked up the most likely cause for low potassium. It is the use of diuretics, not barium as he as been led to believe. He needs to find out if any of what he is taking, or combinations thereof could be causing him to lose potassium or block its uptake, and be sure to increase his dietary intake.

    The sad part about his situation is that it is quite possible that a real cause for his problem might be overlooked because he may have made a mistaken self-diagnosis based of a hoax. At this point, even if an accurate diagnosis is made, he has been so deluded that he may resist a correct diagnosis simply because it contradicts his false belief.

    People like Michael J. Murphy, G. Edward Griffin, Dane Wigington, Francis Mangels and the whole chain of foolish people leading back to the original idea of barium in chemtrails are all partly to blame for this situation.
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  6. tryblinking

    tryblinking Senior Member

    I also loved this self-confirming pearl:


    That's most childrens' behaviour, most of the time.
  7. Steve Funk

    Steve Funk Senior Member

    I know a couple of locals suffering vague symptims of old age which they blame on chemtrails, and for which they are not seeing a doctor. I will have to keep track of them.
  8. Danny55

    Danny55 Senior Member


    Well, he could not have had a heart attack then. Heart attacks leave unmistakeable telltale signs on an ECG which will alert any physician to the problem.
  9. Stupid

    Stupid Senior Member

  10. Unregistered

    Unregistered Guest

    "People love to believe they have a right to wallow in persecution and victimization. You can't smell a bonfire from 10km away, and that's laterally, where there's a chance that a component of the winds might be in your favour. The laterally laminar flow at cruise altitude precludes appreciable vertical descent for fine particles, so that chance falls from negligible to none.
    Not to mention the logical disconnect of everyone else breathing the same air and feeling fine."

    Um...everyone is different which means their symptoms would differ, right?! Plus, how do you know "everyone" else is alright? Are you talking to everyone in the neighborhood? You really don't know! Our perceived reality is a total deception! It's the skeptics like you who point your finger, declaring "CRAZY, NUTS, CONSPIRACIST", who keep the deception going. I think it's funny that your screen name is "Tryblinking"! Maybe you should take your own advice. Contrails and chemical trails are two different things. Contrails dissipate within minutes, leaving nothing behind. Chemtrails hover in the sky, slowly falling to the ground. Chemtrails are very real and very deadly. Look up Morgellon's disease and the issues related to it. Plus, the government doesn't deny their existence. You can easily find declassified files on the subject stemming back into the 50's. There's also hidden camera footage of pilots admitting to what they've been doing (although I don't think the pilots really know the full extent of it). Look up HAARP, weather manipulation, cloud seeding. Don't just call someone crazy when you don't know the facts! I've researched this topic extensively because I thought it was a load of crap when I first learned of it. But, the evidence I found soon forced me to reconsider my position. You are a victim...we all are! But until you blink enough to wake yourself up, you'll always believe the deception.
  11. Danny55

    Danny55 Senior Member

    Well, unregistered, if you could show some evidence linking any alleged chemtrails to the symptoms that a few people apparently display, any evidence at all, say, a lab report showing the composition of a chemtrail, then perhaps the words crazy, nuts, conspiracist, would not be used.
    I got a nail throught my car tyre after a jet went over leaving a persistent trail (what some people claim is a chemtrail). Does that mean that the aircraft was spraying nails?
  12. HappyMonday

    HappyMonday Moderator Staff Member

    Link to this camera footage? I've been asking publicly on twitter for ANY person connected to the aviation industry to come forward and discuss their knowledge of ANY aspect of CT theory.

    Not one has done so.
  13. Unregistered

    Unregistered Guest

  14. HappyMonday

    HappyMonday Moderator Staff Member

    Oh yeah, that one...
  15. Unregistered

    Unregistered Guest

    Although that's not hidden camera, is it, so probably isn't that one.

    There's that dude that talks to someone in some weather mod company that's tauted as "evidence". Could be that one?
  16. scombrid

    scombrid Senior Member

    Contrails usually don't form at all. Sometimes they form and fade in seconds. Sometimes they last minutes. Sometimes they last for hours and drift hundreds of miles in jet stream winds. It all depends on the weather at 33,000+ feet.


    I'm tired of watching videos of spider webs on youtube by paranoid Roxy Lopez and Cliff Carnicon fans.

    Should I look up real information on those topics or the complete bullshit being promoted by people like Dutchsinse?

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