2006 Zdany Mazovia, Poland UFO Sighting.

RevenTexX

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Hey there,
I found this forum after hearing Joe Rogan reference it in one of his podcasts, no better way to introduce myself other than to dive deep into a UFO sighting breakdown.

THE SIGHTING:

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At first glance it looks like two mixing bowls glued together and thrown in the air, but I don't believe it would be as visible as it is if it were two mixing bowls. This thing would have to be at least the size of a washing machine?

I found a thread on ufoinfo.com where they had gotten 4 different sized mixing bowls and compared them to the real image at the real location. At 40 meters distance you can't even see the mixing bowls. Here is an image of all the size comparisons (sorry for poor quality)

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I found these comparison images from this thread: http://www.ufoinfo.com/sightings/poland/060108.shtml

The object is also reflected from the car's bonnet (hood), as well as from one of the car's window panes
Whilst I was lurking around the CIA's website, I discovered a PDF on UFO Photos. On Page 39 of the PDF You can see a swarm of UFO's that look very similar to the UFO in this picture. Here is the image that the CIA declassified in 2013, along with a link to the PDF itself.

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CIA PDF: https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP79B00752A000300130001-1.pdf

It just doesn't make sense as to why these crafts would stay the same shape for 70+ years, this isn't the only UFO Sighting that looks very similar though. The Gulf Breeze UFO sighting from 1993 looks oddly similar to the one in Mazovia Poland. Except it is much higher and flying over water. Here is a link to the 1993 Sighting in Gulf Breeze Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AswWE_YSuc


I'm gonna need a second opinion on this!
 

Mick West

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At first glance it looks like two mixing bowls glued together and thrown in the air, but I don't believe it would be as visible as it is if it were two mixing bowls. This thing would have to be at least the size of a washing machine?
That depends on how far away it is. Consider this "UFO" hovering over a power pole:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgB20Azs_S8&feature=youtu.be

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That would make it around 4 feet wide! But it's actually only around 4 inches.
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When people are joking around faking UFO photos and videos, they will take whatever they have laying around. I find some paper bowls, and one of my earlier models was just two of them together. Metabunk 2020-01-27 08-52-33.jpg

You are simply going to find lots of similar shapes when people are trying to fake the same thing.
 

RevenTexX

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That depends on how far away it is. Consider this "UFO" hovering over a power pole:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgB20Azs_S8&feature=youtu.be

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That would make it around 4 feet wide! But it's actually only around 4 inches.
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When people are joking around faking UFO photos and videos, they will take whatever they have laying around. I find some paper bowls, and one of my earlier models was just two of them together. View attachment 39357

You are simply going to find lots of similar shapes when people are trying to fake the same thing.
That does make perfect sense.
But with this photo, there is nothing for it to dangle off. I agree it must be a fake, but I am unsure on the explanation of this photo here, it is really well done.

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RevenTexX

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How do you know there is nothing? One could fairly easily string some fishing line between two trees.
Hmm, I guess without the exact location we can't view a map to see the surroundings and all possibilities. I believe this is fake, I am just trying to find solid evidence that it's fake. Claiming it's on a fishing ling between two trees and dismissing every other possibility without evidence doesn't actually prove anything. Just like the picture itself doesn't actually prove the UFO is real.

If you believe the double fishing line theory with the two trees, i'd love to see the evidence supporting that.
 
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deirdre

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i think the tree reflection here proves it is not further back than the telephone pole. and telephone poles aren't wider than a washing machine.
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https://nautilus.org.pl/galerie,37,2-zdany-wszystkie-fotografie.html?catId=30

here are more photos although they don't seem to be "full" photos as there are a few others online that show more.
https://nautilus.org.pl/galerie.html?cat_id=31

as far as location.. I found (haven't looked on google maps yet)
http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case1040.htm


adding a montage i made, for telephone pole perspective
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deirdre

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If you believe the double fishing line theory with the two trees, i'd love to see the evidence supporting that.
he didn't say it is definitely on a fishing line. looks to me.. once you see more pics they just hucked it up into the air. the guy in the bottom 2 photos is trying to make it look like he's looking further away, but if you really look he isn't even looking at the thing in the last photo. maybe he is just reacting to a bee flying at his face.

basically if it looks exactly like 2 mixing bowls glued together, it is likely 2 mixing bowls glued together.
 

RevenTexX

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he didn't say it is definitely on a fishing line. looks to me.. once you see more pics they just hucked it up into the air. the guy in the bottom 2 photos is trying to make it look like he's looking further away, but if you really look he isn't even looking at the thing in the last photo. maybe he is just reacting to a bee flying at his face.

basically if it looks exactly like 2 mixing bowls glued together, it is likely 2 mixing bowls glued together.
Ah,
but to debunk, would be to offer irrefutable evidence.

I am curious though.
Do you have an explanation for the CIA Declassified picture as well as the 1993 sighting linked, they too look like mixing bowls glued together. Is that what they also are? In your eyes..
 

deirdre

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Ah,
but to debunk, would be to offer irrefutable evidence.
if I debunked it, I would have changed the thread title to "Debunked: "

Do you have an explanation for the CIA Declassified picture as well as the 1993 sighting linked, they too look like mixing bowls glued together. Is that what they also are? In your eyes..
it's so blurry, its hard to tell. but they seem more coned shaped then any mixing bowls ive seen... they would fall over.
 

Joe_the_Joe

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Are these stills of a video, and if so where could I find the original or something close to it?

Edit: Actually, looking at the montage, my idea probably wouldn't work.
 
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deirdre

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Are these stills of a video, and if so where could I find the original or something close to it?

Edit: Actually, looking at the montage, my idea probably wouldn't work.
I don't think there's video. there is a story online. in one of my links if i recall.

i think it is here(ish) ..not sure which tree exactly they parked near. 2012 is the furthest back my google maps goes.
https://www.google.com/maps/@52.1021368,22.4009831,3a,15y,236.19h,89.49t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sC4tkEiOo-nl1N6awpcYlug!2e0!6s//geo3.ggpht.com/cbk?panoid=C4tkEiOo-nl1N6awpcYlug&output=thumbnail&cb_client=search.revgeo_and_fetch.gps&thumb=2&w=96&h=64&yaw=197.31429&pitch=0&thumbfov=100!7i13312!8i6656

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so those telephone poles are approx. 80-90 feet from the road/car. (I checked 3 they were all the same distance)..whatever that means as far as scale.
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Joe_the_Joe

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Thank you! The distance of the telephone poles/lines actually helps, although I don't have the technical expertise to do this proper: the object, if it is at least as far away as those lines, seems to not have a shadow. It would seem from the position of the sun in the montage that its shadow should be to the right in the photos and somewhere in the foreground, and from its assumed size at that distance, its shadow should be noticeable.

I had hoped if there was a video that the object's actual shadow could be seen moving if it had been thrown.

On another note, the relative size of the object doesn't seem to change all that much between angles, despite the distance seemingly covered.
 

Ron Obvious

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So the CIA is "declassifying" photos that are just bad copies out of bad mid-20th-century UFO books? Two of the books contained in that declassified PDF, "Flying Saucers and Common Sense" and "Flying Saucers on the Attack", were in my elementary school library in the early 1980s!
 

Mick West

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So the CIA is "declassifying" photos that are just bad copies out of bad mid-20th-century UFO books?
They are declassifying a report that had a bunch of stuff in it. Probably stuff that people sent in to them, claiming that they were UFOs. You see stuff like that all the time. Someone sends something into a government agency, it eventually ends up in some database, and then years later people think it came from that government agency.
 

deirdre

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the object, if it is at least as far away as those lines, seems to not have a shadow.
not sure you would see it anyway, even if angles did allow. its obviously winter (weaker sun) and the telephone pole doesn't leave a shadow either that I can see. p1080002_fc.jpg
 

Joe_the_Joe

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That's one of the reasons why I had wanted to see if there was a video.

Edit: Another reason is that if the object is actually small, its shadow would be difficult to discern from the shadows of the field rows.
 

Dingo

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Great find Mick!

With a quick look through that PDF there's also one that's clearly an artist's impression (P-51 with fireball above it), and what appears to be a patent filing that I've seen before. So the 'CIA folder of random assorted bunk' seems to be accurate, especially given the lack of provenance for it.
 

RevenTexX

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https://fineartamerica.com/featured/travelers-insurance-tower-granger.html
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Awesome find! I guess we can for sure say this is now officially debunked! I am going to have to come here more often to get my answers set in stone, there is far too much evidence pointing towards hoax. It makes sense as to why this lost traction shortly after 2006.

I don't believe in 98% of UFO Sightings, but without evidence to back up the hoax, there's no way to convince the extreme UFO community. This thread itself pretty much proves hoax.

Once again, awesome find. I did not even think to flip that old picture from the 60's upside down, your thought process is fascinating.
 

deirdre

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It makes sense as to why this lost traction shortly after 2006.
your CIA picture has nothing to do with the 2006 alleged sighting. you are the only i've seen so far that thinks the CIA picture looks like two mixing/salad bowls glued together.
 

RevenTexX

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if you are looking for the origin of pictures you can use Google Image. https://www.google.com/imghp?hl=en just drag and drop (or use the 'attach' function) the image onto the page there.
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There is also Yandex image for image searches. to name 2.
Well, they do.... look like two salad bowls glued together, at first glance. Now I can't remove the image of them being rivets on a bridge covered in water.

I did not say that the picture from the 60's debunks everything, more so considering this 2006 photo to be fake as there is far far more evidence pointing towards hoax than real, the CIA photo is just further proof that there is a very solid chance these photos from 2006 are faked. Just like most sightings out there.

You're actually the first person to claim they don't look like two mixing bowls glued together, that was the main claim when that CIA photo was posted on r/UFOs on Reddit lmfao.
 

deirdre

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the CIA photo is just further proof that there is a very solid chance these photos from 2006 are faked
not really. one has nothing to do with the other.

You're actually the first person to claim they don't look like two mixing bowls glued together,
that was the main claim when that CIA photo was posted on r/UFOs on Reddit lmfao.
weird. usually male go-tos is hub caps.
 
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