The Satam al Suqami Passport

Is it true that the guy who is alleged to have found the passport is said to have run away after handing it to a cop?
That's the report. I noticed yesterday when I was looking up the FDNY EMT interviews that people started jumping from the tower not long after flight 11 hit. He said that there were so many body parts on the street that you had to step on them. He even mentioned stepping on a mushed-up severed head.

I'm sure many people were freaked out and running away from the scene. Others stayed to watch. Horrible day.
 
Here's EMT Briam Smith describing the scene on Liberty St. It's not hard to imagine that people might be wanting to get away from this horrendous scene. Also lots of people were missing, it's not hard to imagine someone wanting to reunite with family or friends, or find missing family or friends. Running was not unusual on 9/11, it was pretty normal in fact.

At least it's normal to people who aren't obsessed with finding conspiracies in every detail of 9/11...

I started heading down West on
Liberty with two firefighters, and again people were --
people were still, you know, leaping out of the
building 20 feet away, whatever it was, and they were
-- you know, you had to walk like this, because they
were landing so close, and there was still a lot of
stuff falling from the building.


And then I started walking, and I slipped,
and I looked to see what I slipped on, and it was this
guy's head. It was like a mush head, you know. It
wasn't solid like a head, you know. I guess it was
from the explosion or whatever. It was like a mush
head. I could still see it was someone's head, and at
that point, I took -- I tried to take note at what
basically was on the ground around me, and then
that's -- there was a lot of body parts there at that
point. I mean, it was -- I mean, it literally carpeted
the sidewalk. You couldn't tip toe through it like a
mine field or nothing like that. You couldn't, like,
you know, like you are dodging dog crap or something.
I mean, it was -- basically just it was everywhere, you
know, and I remember I -- again, I took a couple of
seconds to take notice of what exactly it was I was
looking at, and some of it you could tell what it was
BRIAM SMITH
you know, some of it was identifiable and some of it,
you knew it was from a person. You didn't know what
the heck it was. I mean, I seen a lot of dead in MVAs,
dismemberments and stuff, but some of it was just, you
know, I just had no idea. I mean, just from the
explosion and from the fall and everything else, it
kind of, you know, turns people to mush.
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Here's EMT Briam Smith describing the scene on Liberty St. It's not hard to imagine that people might be wanting to get away from this horrendous scene. Also lots of people were missing, it's not hard to imagine someone wanting to reunite with family or friends, or find missing family or friends. Running was not unusual on 9/11, it was pretty normal in fact.

At least it's normal to people who aren't obsessed with finding conspiracies in every detail of 9/11...

I started heading down West on
Liberty with two firefighters, and again people were --
people were still, you know, leaping out of the
building 20 feet away, whatever it was, and they were
-- you know, you had to walk like this, because they
were landing so close, and there was still a lot of
stuff falling from the building.


And then I started walking, and I slipped,
and I looked to see what I slipped on, and it was this
guy's head. It was like a mush head, you know. It
wasn't solid like a head, you know. I guess it was
from the explosion or whatever. It was like a mush
head. I could still see it was someone's head, and at
that point, I took -- I tried to take note at what
basically was on the ground around me, and then
that's -- there was a lot of body parts there at that
point. I mean, it was -- I mean, it literally carpeted
the sidewalk. You couldn't tip toe through it like a
mine field or nothing like that. You couldn't, like,
you know, like you are dodging dog crap or something.
I mean, it was -- basically just it was everywhere, you
know, and I remember I -- again, I took a couple of
seconds to take notice of what exactly it was I was
looking at, and some of it you could tell what it was
BRIAM SMITH
you know, some of it was identifiable and some of it,
you knew it was from a person. You didn't know what
the heck it was. I mean, I seen a lot of dead in MVAs,
dismemberments and stuff, but some of it was just, you
know, I just had no idea. I mean, just from the
explosion and from the fall and everything else, it
kind of, you know, turns people to mush.
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Yep but luckily, all these things missed the passport which stood out with a sign there saying pick me up i am important-not important passenger itinerary important cos they can vanish but i am pick up walk around then hand in later important
 
Yep but luckily, all these things missed the passport which stood out with a sign there saying pick me up i am important-not important passenger itinerary important cos they can vanish but i am pick up walk around then hand in later important

Passports are important. It's quite natural to pick up a passport if you happen to see it.

And quite obviously not every square foot of ground was covered in body parts and fluids, just some areas. The point is that it was not a nice place to be in, and one that people would be very eager to leave.
 
Yep but luckily, all these things missed the passport which stood out with a sign there saying pick me up i am important-not important passenger itinerary important cos they can vanish but i am pick up walk around then hand in later important

You weren't there on 9/11. You don't get to decide if something was visible or not. You don't get to decide whether it had to be charred or not. Sorry, life doesn't work that way.

Your sarcasm is disrespectful of the tragedy and those who were forced into it. There are no civilized grounds for making accusations of fraud here.
 
I'm sorry, I'm not going to read thru walls of text to see if you have anything coherent to say. Others can do that.
I skimmed over you posts but they appear to be rather rambling - one thing that caught my eye was something which is frankly ridiculous and you can't prove it anyway.
Yes i can, the total absence of any other item. What we have here is 1 single item, in good as new condition, one that needs to be debunked as soaked in fuel (which needs to then call the fbi into question) because if it was, it would cause the stamps to run which they did not.

There is no other item found that is in comparable condition. That is true until one surfaces.
I don't know why you pick me up on this when you surely read stuff in official literature that says between 7-20 columns severed but they assume the most to justify the end result when they have no proof.
Why is it, the official version can be assuming and guessing but i must be dead on every point?

Well, you PROVE me wrong?
Text and rambles? Nope fact- The passport is SO FAR an isolated item in the condition found pre or post collapse
The passport could NOT if loose (not in a pocket or bag) have made it unscathed through the tower if in cockpit area or loose on his chair

That is provable, to do so i need to just post every crash simulation which i cannot just copy and paste from nist and i am not recording it and compiling it all to upload, you go check the details. But i am NOT wrong, this means we now (as said) move to enclosed passport

The % chances are dropping for this to be just found, just luckily the hijackers, just luckily in good condition, just luckily doctored to link to al qaeda in a way ONLY they use even though they didn't need to to get entry in. Even though it would jeopardise their mission, even though a specific character trait has never been revealed yet the fact it WAS a/q has therefore the group would use new methods anyway so the claim it was protected to avoid classified detail is BS. It would just say- XXX is a specific, style/ink/etc And links to xxx a known passport forger now in custody.

None of it adds up but what the hell. I won't give up, not because i am a nutter, because i KNOW that we have never been told the truth.
And be it Saudi/CIA/Mossad/Bush or a combo or another group, the truth is coming out slowly.
 
You weren't there on 9/11. You don't get to decide if something was visible or not. You don't get to decide whether it had to be charred or not. Sorry, life doesn't work that way.

Your sarcasm is disrespectful of the tragedy and those who were forced into it. There are no civilized grounds for making accusations of fraud here.
Er no i DO get to decide. My sarcasm disrespectful? And i find YOUR attempts to make it all whitewashed disrespectful to the families that begged for an investigation and people like you opposed it and oppose a new investigation and oppose the action against the saudis.

So i do get to decide if something should be burnt as i said earlier, i TESTED, and any item soaked in fuel passing through flames will ignite in UNDER a second. So YES i DO get to decide, just like i got to decide that a 16 ft body CANT pass neatly between a 12 foot gap and when i looked for corroboration i found it.

So if i say that if that WAS soaked in fuel then it had to be burnt then that is because IF it was soaked in fuel it had to be further back than the cockpit or his seat, and would have been engulfed in flame for as long as anything else INCLUDING the seat which is burnt and is more fire resistant than paper.

So i welcome you to suggest the seat was more flammable than fuel soaked paper but that does not make you right
 
Passports are important. It's quite natural to pick up a passport if you happen to see it.

And quite obviously not every square foot of ground was covered in body parts and fluids, just some areas. The point is that it was not a nice place to be in, and one that people would be very eager to leave.
True eager to leave not eager to fiddle in the dirt with. Why is the passport more important than the itinerary that has never surfaced?
And again IF someone knew it was a passport, there was dust and dirt and if it was not open and not right side up it could be anything, American passports are black or blue arent they?
And so we are basing this on colour when most americans havent seen a saudi one. And on the assumption it wasn't open on a stamped page and indistinguishable among many other documents and dirt.
The odds are favouring the way that you want them, it was face up it said passport it was green, there was no debris on it, there was no ash,or footprints on it. (That in itself is another factor, if it was were people are walking and among debris, i know and you can prove this yourself, if you step on a piece of paper it leaves dirt prints, with plenty dust and dirt around there is a good chance it got trodden on already but no.
You have this passport in a spot on it s own no dirt no covering clearly id'd for what it was, and picked up and handed in, despite meanwhile saying everyone wanted to get out of there and there was dirt everywhere and debris etc.
You all see it as normal not just that one passport came out in that condition, but that just luckily it was a hijackers

I have only used official sources and they say the current claims i have made are true. If that doesn't fit with what people wnat to be the case i cant help that
 
Bmead, I'm going to respectfully decline to engage you in any conversation going forward.
Of course you are and i will tell you why-Because it requires you to debunk those points i made, you cannot or will not because that requires the same efforts i have gone to. (Sandia Labs test/US electric power research institute tests, mit impact peer reviewed paper, all nist impact simulations, fema impact data, debunkers simulations and assumptions) If you think i plucked a claim out of thin air you are wrong.

But as you do not wish to engage i am sure someone else will. So that is your choice
 
Of course you are and i will tell you why-Because it requires you to debunk those points i made, you cannot or will not because that requires the same efforts i have gone to. (Sandia Labs test/US electric power research institute tests, mit impact peer reviewed paper, all nist impact simulations, fema impact data, debunkers simulations and assumptions) If you think i plucked a claim out of thin air you are wrong.

But as you do not wish to engage i am sure someone else will. So that is your choice

The key is that the presence or absence of this passport doesn't not change the story in any way. 19 hijackers (Satam al Suqami included) hijacked four planes. The rest is history.
 
So i do get to decide if something should be burnt as i said earlier, i TESTED, and any item soaked in fuel passing through flames will ignite in UNDER a second.
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The surface of the fuel will ignite, it takes longer to start burning underneath it, that's why people can set their arms on fire and extinguish it quickly with no damage.
Also have you taken into account the wind force that it would encounter falling 400 (approx) metres? Is that a conducive environment to flame?
Also it may have passed through flame (if it did at all, it's speculation that it did) in less than a second if it was being propelled by either the initial velocity of the plane or an explosion.

So the conclusion that if it came from the plane then it was on fire at some point is not solid.
 
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Of course you are and i will tell you why-Because it requires you to debunk those points i made, you cannot or will not because that requires the same efforts i have gone to. (Sandia Labs test/US electric power research institute tests, mit impact peer reviewed paper, all nist impact simulations, fema impact data, debunkers simulations and assumptions) If you think i plucked a claim out of thin air you are wrong.

But as you do not wish to engage i am sure someone else will. So that is your choice
Please do us all a favour and don't pretend that you know what I'm thinking. If you want me to spell it out for you I will: I don't think your ideas and reasoning are particularly worthy, and debate is not possible with someone of your mindset.

Further engagement is essentially pointless. That is why I don't want to continue.
 
I just think it is fascinating that

- a passport could actually make it out of the building intact enough to identify its owner
- the owner would be one of the hijackers
- it could then make it to a place where it could be seen on the ground
- someone would actually notice a passport on the ground mixed in with lots of other debris in the excitement of the moment
- the guy who found the passport knew enough to give it to a detective
- the detective did not have a chance to get his name as the guy got lost in the confusion
- we were informed of this by Rudy Giuliani's former chauffeur, body guard, non college degreed police commissioner, and fraud convict Bernie Kerik
 
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- the guy who found the passport knew enough to give it to a detective

I've wondered that myself. Detectives are pretty much just guys in typical suits like other typical folk in New York, right? I mean, they don't stand out, they're detectives. Is it a case of 'guy picked it up, handed it to another guy who just happened to be a detective'?
 
I have not engaged in this discussion so this may sound like a stupid question . . . were any other passports recovered in NYC after 911 of anyone else in the two aircraft or of any of the occupants or visitors in the Towers??
 
I have not engaged in this discussion so this may sound like a stupid question . . . were any other passports recovered in NYC after 911 of anyone else in the two aircraft or of any of the occupants or visitors in the Towers??

Since the two flights were domestic it is reasonable to surmise that the majority of passengers did not have passports. A passport from one of the hijackers was recovered from the PA crash site.
 
Since the two flights were domestic it is reasonable to surmise that the majority of passengers did not have passports. A passport from one of the hijackers was recovered from the PA crash site.
How about driver licenses or other similar documents???
 
Since the two flights were domestic it is reasonable to surmise that the majority of passengers did not have passports. A passport from one of the hijackers was recovered from the PA crash site.
And to my knowledge some documents from a flight attendant were found as well . . . according to this site below a bunch of things were found in Pa . . . I don't think the Pa crash location conditions and WTC crash conditions are comparable . . . http://killtown.911review.org/flight93/claim.html
 
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I've wondered that myself. Detectives are pretty much just guys in typical suits like other typical folk in New York, right? I mean, they don't stand out, they're detectives. Is it a case of 'guy picked it up, handed it to another guy who just happened to be a detective'?
It is then very strange that the detective did not at the very least get the guy's name.

I think the story smells like something cooked up by old Bernie with a little help from his friends, and all I would say to those who want to believe it is that I have heard there is a bridge in Brooklyn for sale cheap.
 
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What were the major differences? Maybe a new thread.
Some of the major differences were the materials impacted and the lack of fire in the Pa versus WTC and the Pentagon crash areas, plus the isolation of the Pa location . . . in Pa the remains of the aircraft and contents were basically buried in the soft soil and concentrated in a very small area . . .
 
I just think it is fascinating that

- a passport could actually make it out of the building intact enough to identify its owner
- the owner would be one of the hijackers
- it could then make it to a place where it could be seen on the ground
- someone would actually notice a passport on the ground mixed in with lots of other debris in the excitement of the moment
- the guy who found the passport knew enough to give it to a detective
- the detective did not have a chance to get his name as the guy got lost in the confusion
- we were informed of this by Rudy Giuliani's former chauffeur, body guard, non college degreed police commissioner, and fraud convict Bernie Kerik

Yes, it is fascinating when extremely unlikely events happen:

Man survives suicide bid plunge over Niagara Falls

Double lottery winners beat odds of 1 in 24,000,000,000,000
 
Some of the major differences were the materials impacted and the lack of fire in the Pa versus WTC and the Pentagon crash areas, plus the isolation of the Pa location . . . in Pa the remains of the aircraft and contents were basically buried in the soft soil and concentrated in a very small area . . .

Any evidence to support your many contentions? Are you sure there was no fire?
 
Most criminals aren't that lucky. They usually have to make it happen and then just need a little luck that their story holds up if confronted. If corruption is involved then no luck is needed at all. Just a plausible story given to an unsuspecting and easily convinced public, with little access to evidence and thus little ability to get at the truth.
 
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Because EVERY non available cop in NYC was sent there? Duh




Rescue workers at the World Trade Center site began to discover body fragments from Flight 11 victims within days of the attack. Some workers found bodies strapped to airplane seats and discovered the body of a flight attendant with her hands bound, suggesting the hijackers might have used plastic handcuffs.[52][53] Within a year, medical examiners had identified the remains of 33 victims who had been on board Flight 11.[54] They identified two other Flight 11 victims, including the lead flight attendant Karen Martin, after body fragments were discovered near Ground Zero in 2006.[55][56] In April 2007, examiners using newer DNA technology identified another Flight 11 victim.[57] The remains of two hijackers, potentially from Flight 11, were also identified and removed from Memorial Park in Manhattan.[58] The remains of the other hijackers have not been identified and are buried with other unidentified remains at this park.[59]

Suqami's passport survived the crash and landed in the street below. Soaked in jet fuel, it was picked up by a passerby who gave it to a New York City Police Department (NYPD) detective shortly before the South Tower collapsed.[60][61] Investigators retrieved Mohamed Atta's luggage, which had not been loaded onto the flight. In it they found Omari's passport and driver's license, a videocassette for a Boeing 757 flight simulator, a folding knife, and pepper spray.[ex/]




Better still is the caption of the photo on its original page: “On Albany Street, two blocks south of WTC 2, Two men examine a seat cushion from AA Flight 11. 8:52 a.m”. A cushion, from Flight 11? An eminently flammable object that was passed through the building, still recognisable, rather than burned to ashes? Plainly we can’t prove the caption is correct, although it would explain why two passer-bys have stopped to look (an ordinary cushion from the building probably isn’t going to attract the same attention).
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On Oct. 12, it arrived inside a second envelope at Mrs. Snyder's modest white house on Main Street here, and the instant she took it out and saw it, she says, ''chills just went over me.'' It was singed and crumpled. A chunk was ripped out, giving the bottom of the envelope she had sent the look of a jagged skyline. Mrs. Snyder's lyrical script had blurred into the scorched paper. The stamp, depicting a World War II sailor embracing a woman welcoming him home, was intact.

Along with the letter was a note: ''To whom it may concern. This was found floating around the street in downtown New York. I am sorry if you suffered any loss in this tragedy. Sincerely, a friend in New York!''

Since then, Mrs. Snyder, a customer service representative at a grocery store, has discovered that she has one of only two pieces of mail known to have been recovered from the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center. At least one auction house has contacted her, saying she could sell the letter for tens of thousands of dollars.

One Letter's Odyssey Helps Mend a Wound
New York Times
December 20, 2001[ex/]



http://www.911myths.com/html/passport_recovered.html


http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Personal_Effects_and_the_Crash-Proof_Passport


http://amhistory.si.edu/september11/collection/record.asp?ID=32
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The case write-up posted by Mick says the NYC police detective and FBI special agent responded to what had to be a call. So they would have met the guy at a specific location at the WTC area. It is then very strange that they did not at the very least get his name, either when he called police or when they met him.

It is also interesting that the detective and special agent were from a joint terrorism task force. This passport was alleged to have been found and given to them before the buildings collapsed. So why would joint terrorism task force agents/detectives be on the scene so fast?

I think the story smells like something cooked up by old Bernie with a little help from his friends, and all I would say to those who want to believe it is that I have heard there is a bridge in Brooklyn for sale cheap.

The cop was responding to a call alright, a plane had hit the World Trade Center, so they were responding to that.

The cop was Yuk H. Chin, there's nothing to suggest he was anything other than a regular detective.

Stick with the facts please Tony.
 
How about driver licenses or other similar documents???
There was a lot of ID, credit cards and so on recovered. Yes.

As I mentioned above, to my knowledge many (most?) Americans didn't carry passports on domestic flights in 2001. I know a number of Americans who never had passports because they stayed in-country. It would help to have this corroborated by people on this forum. But I suspect this accounts for the paucity of passports.

One victim of flight 11 (IIRC) had a chunk of her hip recovered with ID still in the pocket of her pants. Horrifying stuff. Why any of this stuff would or could be planted is beyond imagination. Isn't it enough that the plane crashed into the tower and killed all these people? It's not like we need more proof of that.

The DNA of the hijackers was recovered in the pentagon and shanksville crashes IIRC. It seems they were really on the planes and really died along with everyone else.
Suicide attacks are hardly remarkable - we've seen how many years of this now in Iraq and Afghanistan? People are willing to kill themselves in order to inflict damage - this is not a huge revelation on 9/11 or since.
 
There was a lot of ID, credit cards and so on recovered. Yes.

As I mentioned above, to my knowledge many (most?) Americans didn't carry passports on domestic flights in 2001. I know a number of Americans who never had passports because they stayed in-country. It would help to have this corroborated by people on this forum. But I suspect this accounts for the paucity of passports.

Basically zero Americans, then or now, use passports for domestic travel. The only reason they would do so would be if they have lost their driver's license.
 


Mick, I am sticking to the facts. I find it quite odd that the man found a plain clothes detective to give the passport to, rather than one of the many uniformed NYC police officers who would have been in the vicinity.

Maybe it just sounds routine to you but it certainly doesn't to me.
 
Here's the passport of Saeed Alghamdi. It doesn't look in great shape. So I guess if the passports were planted by some vast conspiracy, they forgot to make one look damaged? Even the conspiracy wouldn't be internally consistent. I guess from a conspiracist's POV everything is suspicious, even if it's innocuous.

 


Mick, I am sticking to the facts. The first paragraph in this police action report says they were responding specifically about the passport. I find it quite odd that a special agent and NYC police detective from a joint terrorism task force were dispatched to retrieve it when there would have been a lot of NYC police officers in the vicinity.

Maybe it just sounds routine to you but it certainly doesn't to me.

The first paragraph refers to the JTTF going to get the passport at the 13th precinct, which is on East 21st St, 2.5 miles from the WTC. They did this after it had been handed in and taken to the precinct. That seems perfectly reasonable.
 
The first paragraph refers to the JTTF going to get the passport at the 13th precinct, which is on East 21st St, 2.5 miles from the WTC. They did this after it had been handed in and taken to the precinct. That seems perfectly reasonable.
I see. However, it still seems odd that the detective did not get the man's name and that the guy would give it to a plain clothes detective rather than a uniformed cop.
 
I see. However, it still seems odd that the detective did not get the man's name and that the guy would give it to a plain clothes detective rather than a uniformed cop.

Why? It was an incredibly crazy and chaotic time, just after the second impact. Debris and people falling, fires, people running everywhere. An incredibly minor thing like the guy's name is not really a priority at a time like that.

If I found a passport on the street in normal circumstances, I'd just hand it to a cop. I'd not offer my name either. What does it matter? It's not like I get to keep the passport if nobody claims it.

There was no reason at the time for the cop to get the guy's name, even if he hung around. It's basically irrelevant. The only info he could possibly have is where he found it. Now, THAT is what the cop should have asked.
 
Since I don't have access to (nor have I attempted to get it) all recovered items, I've found a few things which are reportedly not damaged:
Flight 93 victim Andrew Garcia's wallet and wedding ring were returned to his family by the FBI. '"It was practically intact," Richard's sister, Lori, said of the credentials, which were returned in their wallet. "It just looked like it wasn't damaged or hadn't gone through much of anything at all, which is so bizarre and ironic.'

This bankcard of Waleed Iskandar was found in the WTC rubble and returned to them in 2002. It survived the collapse of the towers 'in good condition'. Some consider it a sign or gift from the son to his parents on the anniversary of his death. They can't understand how it could look so undamaged except by divine intervention. I guess where they see the hand of God, (positive force) conspiracy theorists see a dark conspiracy planting evidence (negative force).

The problem with the conspiracist POV is that it sees conspiracy whether the item is damaged or not - either way it must be planted, in their minds. If it's pristine, they find it even more compelling. Yet the hijacker passport above is damaged and the card below isn't. This is not evidence of a conspiracy to plant evidence or artifacts, it's just the leftovers of a tragedy.

 
I see. However, it still seems odd that the detective did not get the man's name and that the guy would give it to a plain clothes detective rather than a uniformed cop.
I really don't find it odd either. It does make you wonder how much stuff was picked up and not handed in though. I think in the case of the Columbia disaster NASA had to offer an amnesty so people would hand in important artifacts instead of hording them or selling them.
 
George Simmons and his wife Diane were killed on one of the flights but several items of theirs were returned:
We got his wedding band back. We got his business card with his name on it. We got his day planner, and it was only charred along the outside rim, but it's completely readable, each page. And his address book-it was charred on the outside as well. It was like a leather binder, and every page was readable
.... They found Diane's Visa credit card and her checkbook.
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Is it suspicious that so much ID from that couple was found? No, of course not. His day planner was only slightly charred. Is that suspicious? No, of course not.

From flight 93
seventy other pieces of jewelry.., along with a bewildering variety of scrunchies, hats, belts, bras, dresses, T-shirts, unmatched shoes, and other items that somehow escaped the heat, some virtually unmarred
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Apparently some items were in remarkably good condition. This is not speculation, it's a matter of historical record.
 
Why? It was an incredibly crazy and chaotic time, just after the second impact. Debris and people falling, fires, people running everywhere. An incredibly minor thing like the guy's name is not really a priority at a time like that.

If I found a passport on the street in normal circumstances, I'd just hand it to a cop. I'd not offer my name either. What does it matter? It's not like I get to keep the passport if nobody claims it.

There was no reason at the time for the cop to get the guy's name, even if he hung around. It's basically irrelevant. The only info he could possibly have is where he found it. Now, THAT is what the cop should have asked.
Your points here are somewhat contradictory. The confusion and chaos makes it unlikely for the guy to find the passport to begin with. It was important for the detective to at least take the guy's name and ask exactly where he found the passport. The guy's name would be relevant for credibility and the location would be relevant for evidentiary reasons.

Don't forget that at the time they did not know the buildings were going to collapse, so that kind of frenzy was not there.
 
Here's the passport of Saeed Alghamdi. It doesn't look in great shape. So I guess if the passports were planted by some vast conspiracy, they forgot to make one look damaged? Even the conspiracy wouldn't be internally consistent. I guess from a conspiracist's POV everything is suspicious, even if it's innocuous.

I am impressed that the photo and owner information was not damaged like the page above it which would not have had relevant information.
 
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