1. Svartbjørn

    Svartbjørn Senior Member

    So... this one isnt really hard.. but Ive been seeing it crop up all over the bloody place today and since the math is super easy I figured Id drop it in here for a giggle.

    The Story:

    The US Powerball is not at 1.3 Billion USD. According to the math, that should put 4.3 MILLION USD in every American's bank account right? Here's the Post:

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    Now, Im no genious at math, but something was way off.. so I did some back of the napkin calculations and was UTTERLY SHOCKED (/sarcasm) to realize that someone's math was off just a little... several 0s worth of off. The math actually works out to $4.30, not $4.3M.

    1,300,000,000/300,000,000=4.3, OR to make it easy.. 13/3=4.3

    This post is mostly here to poke fun at the American Education system but also as a demonstration at just how bad people are at taking things at face value and not doing a little work on the backend.. This isnt super hard math, just has a lot of Zeros.
     
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  2. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

    yea if i multiply 300 million by 4.3 million i get 1,290,000,000,000,000.00

    i dont know what that number is, but it isnt 1.29 billion :)


    edit add: apparently its 1,290 trillion. ?
     
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  3. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    It's almost certainly an example of "correction bait", a type of trolling designed to make people write responses like yours.

    It's not something that's widely discussed though. The only definition I found was a bit wonky.
    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CorrectionBait
     
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  4. Ray Von Geezer

    Ray Von Geezer Senior Member

    Maybe they're using the original British definition of a billion, which was one million million rather than one thousand million? The maths would be correct.

    Ray Von
     
  5. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    No. Nobody uses that definition any more, and you'd still need a thousand million million for it to work (a quadrillion).
     
  6. Svartbjørn

    Svartbjørn Senior Member

    Yep, I agree with you.. the issue Im seeing though is that people are actually jumping on board with it and wanting the earnings spread to every Citizen in the US. These are average joes and dont have the earmarks of troll replies from what Ive seen. I got the distinct impression that the original post (the image above) was either a troll or another one of those 'experiments' where people create bunk to track how fast it spreads.
     
  7. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    But the vast majority of the comments are the corrections.
    20160111-122937-1olob.
     
  8. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

    if i recall, poor people play the lottery more than rich people. (cittion needed) so that would be kinda inappropriate to take from the poor and give to the rich.

    although the taxes alone might annihilate the national debt. whats 18 trillion minus 40% of 4.3 millionX300 million?

    (edit: had to fix tax bracket and math formula)
     
  9. Svartbjørn

    Svartbjørn Senior Member

    Must just be the goofs in my feeds then.. Ive got a couple hundred shares popping up and they're all "YEAH LETS DO THIS." Speaks volumes to the kindness of people I know though.
     
  10. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    I bought a lottery ticket yesterday :)
     
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  11. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    Or their level of sarcasm. I think a lot of people are sharing it ironically.
     
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  12. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

    oh good. maybe you can finally pay us. :D
     
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  13. Svartbjørn

    Svartbjørn Senior Member

    LOL.. the only ppl on my list thatd be trolly enough to do that are my brothers and I. I WISH that were the case, because Id start a club.
     
  14. Svartbjørn

    Svartbjørn Senior Member

    I bought one this afternoon at lunch.. what the hell, may as well.
     
  15. Bruno D.

    Bruno D. Senior Member

    I bought one for the 950mi. Don't know about the 1.3 bi though.
     
  16. Leifer

    Leifer Senior Member

    The funny part, is that some people will only buy a lottery ticket when it's pot is super high...
    .....but if it's only a 5 million dollar pot.....ehhh, not worth it.

    But people like dreams and fame....so they will reach out once in a while.
     
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  17. Trailblazer

    Trailblazer Moderator Staff Member

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  18. Auldy

    Auldy Senior Member

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    I've seen this one shared a bit on my feed, but mostly pointing out the hilarious math errors. But some people do need to have it explained still.
     

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    Trailblazer Moderator Staff Member

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  20. Ray Von Geezer

    Ray Von Geezer Senior Member

    My maths = :oops:

    That first point though, I still have relatives that go on about the "British" billion, then there's Mock the Week who contacted the UK Treasury after there was some confusion over figures they'd released. The Treasury representative was quite emphatic that they always defined a billion as 1 million million, before finally agreeing to check and confirming that they actually meant 1 thousand million.

    Ray Von
     
  21. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    Very large numbers are essentially meaningless to the majority of people. Any kind of "-illion" is just "lots, too big to count, more than you'd ever need, nearly infinite, etc." The generic term "zillion" reflects this.

    People are more familiar with "million" though - as it's a number of plausible familiarity to more people (and "a thousand thousand" is reasonable). But "billion", "trillion", "zillion" are incomprehensible.
     
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  22. Leifer

    Leifer Senior Member

    Regarding the odds of a winner at "best places to buy lottery tickets"....

    Different cities have their share of mysterious "this place sells more winner tickets than the rest".
    Is there really a physical establishment who produces "more winners" than others ?

    Some people think so, and some people wait hours in line at a particular lottery ticket outlet.
    Slow down......it's only true because these sites have garnered a reputation for winners because these sites have had a historic winner.
    After all, some establishment had to be the source. Are they "more than lucky" ?
    No.
    These sites (usually convenience stores with Lottery# machines) have gathered online fame for winners because over the years, more tickets are sold at these places, so the odds to win, increase.....but only because the volume of tickets sold there, is very huge.....more tickets are sold there.
    So, there is a better chance that the establishment will produce a winning ticket....and not a better chance the buyer of the ticket, will be a winner.

    (I know, this is academic...but superstition wins the mind.)



    I share a bit of disgust at these lotteries. The States and their lottery commissions know that the non-wealthy, end up handing over the majority of money. Plus this gambling system (and how it's run) is only legal in this format......that in order to organize such a wide system, it must be run through the local or state gov't system. Private companies cannot engage in such a system without financial ties to the State.
     
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