Hama Neggs
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There is a claim circulating that chemtrails are being inserted into visual media in order to make the public become accustomed to seeing them. Here are a couple of versions of a vid being cited as proof of this, looking at a 2005 ad for Virgin Trains that uses from footage from the 1970 film The Railway Children
Firstly the cover frame used in the video above IS actually a fake, but one done by the video maker, and it's not in the original Virgin ad:
The actual shot with the contrail just has a single trail in the upper left.
Note in the above that modern building have also been added to the background. This is not simply the addition of a contrail. Slide the center divider below to compare the version from the ad with the original shot in the 1970 film:
The full commercial can be see here:
Why is there a contrail? The ad company says it was intended to juxtapose old and modern themes. In particular the contrails were intended to prompt the comparison of rail travel with air travel.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4640947.stm
http://theinspirationroom.com/daily/2006/virgin-trains-return-of-the-train/
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=296&Itemid=50
The commercial uses a variety of old film footage combined with a modern setting. Here's the children looking at a modern electric train:
And here's Cary Grant inside the modern train:
Later we see composite with Tony Curtis and Jack Lemmon from the 1959 film "Some like it Hot"
And several other old film.
It's very clear this is not intended to be taken as being real. It's old film footage very obvious contrasted with modern footage.
If you are going to use this as evidence for "chemtrails" then you might as well also use it as evidence for ghosts.
But what gets missed here is that there actually is a contrail in the original scene. Just as the children are running up to the fence, there is this shot:
With a quite distinct contrail in the upper left.
And again, 25 min in.
Although this is possibly the edge of a bank of cloud.
Quite possibly also here:
[Additional material added to this post by @Mick West]
Firstly the cover frame used in the video above IS actually a fake, but one done by the video maker, and it's not in the original Virgin ad:
The actual shot with the contrail just has a single trail in the upper left.
Note in the above that modern building have also been added to the background. This is not simply the addition of a contrail. Slide the center divider below to compare the version from the ad with the original shot in the 1970 film:
The full commercial can be see here:
Why is there a contrail? The ad company says it was intended to juxtapose old and modern themes. In particular the contrails were intended to prompt the comparison of rail travel with air travel.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4640947.stm
The use of the contrail was noted back in 2006:
THE PRODUCT: Virgin Trains
THE BRIEF: Make people forget how grim train travel has often been in recent years. Instead, inspire them with a bit of good old-fashioned romance.
WHAT'S GOING ON: As one of Virgin's new Pendolino trains powers through the English countryside, the Railway Children race down to the fence to see the "big dragon tearing by".
On board, modern day "customers" mingle with living, breathing icons of the golden age of the train.
Margaret Lockwood and May Witty order a pot of tea, asking the waiter to make sure the water's boiling. Cary Grant tries to chat up Eva Marie Saint. And (rather strangely, since the train has already been racing through the fields) Tony Curtis and Jack Lemmon hobble down a Euston platform in high heels and make it on to the train just in time.
The advert - a full minute long - reaches its climax (to the kind of orchestral soundtrack one might expect from a Hollywood epic) with Cary Grant declaring: "Beats flying, doesn't it."
A strange message, perhaps, to come from the House of Branson. But the atmosphere created by this advert is so seductive that the experience of post-Hatfield speed restrictions, delays and overcrowding, seems a world away. By linking the train experience with flying, it's almost as if the most realistic alternative to rail (driving) is not even considered.
"The whole brief was to reinvent the romance and passion of train travel," says Helen Kimber of ad agency Rainey Kelly Campbell Roalfe/Y&R, which created the advert.
http://theinspirationroom.com/daily/2006/virgin-trains-return-of-the-train/
Virgin promotes Return of the Train
DUNCAN MACLEOD SEPTEMBER 23, 2006
Virgin Trains, one of Britain’s leading train companies, made a drive in 2005 to win new passengers to travel by train, with a campaign featuring film stars from six movies. The campaign, launched in June 2005, shows present-day passengers the latest mod cons while mingling with the fictional characters from the past, in both colour and black and white.
The 60 second television commercial opens with the Bobbie, Phyllis and Peter Waterbury, characters in the 1970 film, The Railway Children, running through fields to watch the Pendolino tilt train race past. To reinforce the 21st century feel a jet stream is placed in the sky behind them as they sit on the fence.
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=296&Itemid=50
Unfortunately he repeats the use of the word "chemtrails" to describe contrails, as he's not at all familiar with the topic.Update! 19 July 2010
Phil Morris tried to contact the people who made the commercial and he received this response from someone associated with the makers of the Commercial::
From: xxx
Sent: 19 July 2010 09:53
To: PHIL Morris;yyy; ad.johnson@ntlworld.com
Subject: RE: The Railway Children, Virgin Trains and Chemtrails
Hi Phil
The chemtrails were indeed 'on-purpose' in our Virgin Trains 'Return of the Train' ad.
If you look closely in the background you can also see a block of modern flats on the horizon. This juxtaposition of old and new aims to highlight the new beginnings of the modern Virgin Train.
In 2004, Virgin Trains began to roll out their new fleet of new trains, the Pendolino, to the West Coast line. It was deemed to be time to address their ultimate ambition – to become the nation’s transport provider of choice. We wanted to encourage consumers to make an active, positive choice to take the train rather than driving or opting to fly – and to keep doing so over time.
So, as you can see, the chemtrails were used as a tool, although subtle, to address the above.
Many thanks
The commercial uses a variety of old film footage combined with a modern setting. Here's the children looking at a modern electric train:
And here's Cary Grant inside the modern train:
Later we see composite with Tony Curtis and Jack Lemmon from the 1959 film "Some like it Hot"
And several other old film.
It's very clear this is not intended to be taken as being real. It's old film footage very obvious contrasted with modern footage.
If you are going to use this as evidence for "chemtrails" then you might as well also use it as evidence for ghosts.
But what gets missed here is that there actually is a contrail in the original scene. Just as the children are running up to the fence, there is this shot:
With a quite distinct contrail in the upper left.
And again, 25 min in.
Although this is possibly the edge of a bank of cloud.
Quite possibly also here:
[Additional material added to this post by @Mick West]
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