Chem/Con orbs.. no debunking these things

Quoting Ross marsden "They are nowhere near either the plane or the trail. At about 2:00 you can see the definition of the "orb" change as the camera struggles to auto-focus on the shifting image content. The "orb" is much closer to the camera than the plane/contrail/clouds/buildings. " OK.. what about this then? and don't say they aren't near the trail http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvZfPsQeZgM
 
Quoting Ross marsden "They are nowhere near either the plane or the trail. At about 2:00 you can see the definition of the "orb" change as the camera struggles to auto-focus on the shifting image content. The "orb" is much closer to the camera than the plane/contrail/clouds/buildings. " OK.. what about this then? and don't say they aren't near the trail http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvZfPsQeZgM

Looks like insects/bugs of some kind a lot closer to the camera.

If these (?) are "studying" contrails why do they not stay right on/in the trail?

There is nothing in this video that indicates that the (?) are close to the contrail.
 
Looks like insects/bugs of some kind a lot closer to the camera. If these (?) are "studying" contrails why do they not stay right on/in the trail? There is nothing in this video that indicates that the (?) are close to the contrail.
REALLY? Look at 0:38 / 39 I'd say it's PLENTY CLOSE
 
"Looks like insects/bugs of some kind a lot closer to the camera." BLAH BLAH.. MORE birds/insect nonsense.. how many of these orbs do you want me to post?
 
http://youtu.be/ODcxzRI-Jfs (there is no contrail in this video?) Correct.. There are NO contrails in the video.. BUT there is the left over chem/CON fallout which you see in the sky.. hence the "orbs"

So you are saying that "orbs" are the result of trails?

What is your evidence for that - YT videos?

How many other videos without trails are there on YT that have some sort of "orb" in them? Have you determined the ratio with and without contrails, with and without orbs?

And how have you established this causal relationship?
 
Quoting Ross marsden "They are nowhere near either the plane or the trail. At about 2:00 you can see the definition of the "orb" change as the camera struggles to auto-focus on the shifting image content. The "orb" is much closer to the camera than the plane/contrail/clouds/buildings. " OK.. what about this then? and don't say they aren't near the trail http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvZfPsQeZgM

OK - I won't say that.

I'll ask you how you know they are near the trail?

How do you know they are not 1mm from the lens, or 1m, or 100km? What is your method for determining the distance between orb and trail, or between orb and camera?
 
What about all this contrail propaganda appearing in media and more? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0PEOn7TmG0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tccKw2XEceU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s38aNHCjGdc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E10CJUfU2vk I have even noticed similar trails on the LEGO advertisements here in AUS Why flood this shit everywhere?

The horrors. How dare they show fluffy clouds in advertising. Next thing you know they'll be using little bunnys! Makes me so angry!:mad:
 
Originally Posted by Debunk This
What about all this contrail propaganda appearing in media and more? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0PEOn7TmG0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tccKw2XEceU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s38aNHCjGdchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E10CJUfU2vk I have even noticed similar trails on the LEGO advertisements here in AUS Why flood this shit everywhere?
The horrors. How dare they show fluffy clouds in advertising. Next thing you know they'll be using little bunnys! Makes me so angry!:mad:"

In the first video, the Winfield Sky Blue 25 pack is a fake.
In the McD ad, someone appears to suggest that chemtrails contain bananas and strawberries. Makes a change from Aluminium and Barium I suppose.
The playmobil ads also suggest that people do not have noses.... must be the viruses and mutated pathogens in chemtrails that does that.
 
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I'm doing bird watching from time to time. This occasionally involves following a circling or hovering bird (e.g. a falcon in "heli" mode) with my 10x50 binoculars.

What always strikes me is the number of insects/bees/beetles that are crossing through the field of vision in these moments (provided the weather is favourable enough). I can't see them with my bare eyes because it's practically impossible to focus on them with the sky behind.

A camera could easily pick them up when zooming - except, when it is pointed to things high up in the sky, they are out of focus ...
 
A lot of the "orb" videos use digital zoom, where EVERYTHING is out of focus. You don't notice it so much on the contrails as they are pretty soft edged anyway.

This is from "UFOs studying a contrail":


Clearly the entire image is out of focus, it's the result of digital zoom.
 
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Originally Posted by Debunk This What about all this contrail propaganda appearing in media and more? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0PEOn7TmG0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tccKw2XEceU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s38aNHCjGdchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E10CJUfU2vk I have even noticed similar trails on the LEGO advertisements here in AUS Why flood this shit everywhere? The horrors. How dare they show fluffy clouds in advertising. Next thing you know they'll be using little bunnys! Makes me so angry!:mad:" In the first video, the Winfield Sky Blue 25 pack is a fake. In the McD ad, someone appears to suggest that chemtrails contain bananas and strawberries. Makes a change from Aluminium and Barium I suppose. The playmobil ads also suggest that people do not have noses.... must be the viruses and mutated pathogens in chemtrails that does that.
LOL.. is all
 
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Perhaps a photo showing the packets with a recent newspaper would help, as they are not shown on the manufacturer's webpages.
 
I've not seen DebunkThis (DT) say anything like, "Yes, I'll consider that."
Given the many suggestions, it seems like he/she is not interested in any other explanations.
 
....and if I see that DT has his/her own set of rules regarding logical suggestions....I see no point in continuing any further.
 
DebunkThis, you haven't shown any evidence that there are trail images on Pokemon cards in the first place.
Can you point us towards any images of pokemon cards that show contrails?
Please provide a link.
Most of the cloud illustrations shown on the playmobile toy packaging are normal cloud formations no different to those documented in photographs over 100years ago.
https://picasaweb.google.com/Uncinus/CloudStudies1905And1925

I suspect your pokemon comments are actually referring to Japanese illustrator's action lines used by all illustrators to convey a sense of speed by simulating motion blur of the background.
This Gigantor cartoon from the 1960s uses action lines to convey the sense speed similar to the action lines used for the flying pokemon characters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlWaTAZUxUQ
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/tvsea07_040.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_y6KWvpIx5yw/TSDqFovB5LI/AAAAAAAAAbg/yTCM04La_bk/s1600/swell.jpeg


Perhaps you might envisage a conspiracy explanation for the trails formed behind the Light Cycles in the 1980s children's movie "Tron" and it's sequel decades later?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3ODe9mqoDE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn4SUk6p1fg

BTW, I'm a professional design engineer and have written and illustrated aviation themed children's book titles incorporating such action lines in a book I published in 1987.
ISBN0731616057, 9780731616053
http://www.mckeewildthings.com/image/Wungle cover pos28602_C5092.jpg
http://www.mckeewildthings.com/image/BaronBumblast fly91_Cop5089.jpg
http://www.mckeewildthings.com/Illustrations.htm

I think your comments simply reveal you are not familiar with 20th century manga , anime and other illustration conventions known to most modern artists

These pokemon screens you showed is NOT what I'm talking about. It was two full huge "CONtrails". big and white against a nice blue sky... nothing like this

"I think your comments simply reveal you are not familiar with 20th century manga , anime and other illustration conventions known to most modern artists"

LOL... you have no idea how wrong you are buddy
 
Can you tell me ...."what I have needed to go back and re-read" ??
Can you re-state that in a sentence ?
 
These pokemon screens you showed is NOT what I'm talking about. It was two full huge "CONtrails". big and white against a nice blue sky... nothing like this

"I think your comments simply reveal you are not familiar with 20th century manga , anime and other illustration conventions known to most modern artists"

LOL... you have no idea how wrong you are buddy

I think you are the wrong one. As a pilot and knowing many commercial pilots, I can tell you there is nothing in our flight manuals on spraying Chemtrails! I'm also wondering where these tanks hide in the plane and how they are loaded up whilst sitting at the gate.

I'm also wondering if you studied meteorology so you understand how contrails form and why they can last for some time. Have you studied photography and parallax error: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallax this will help explain your "orbs"

Have you bothered to study up on it or just look at youtube videos?

I laugh everytime I look at peekay22's videos. The guy doesn't understand meteorology, or flight paths, how great circles and prevailing winds affect flights.
 
yes you are right there.. more birds and bugs! I still can't believe you really think they are UFO's!!!
 
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