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So they are using our old toners cartridges to Cloud seed ??
So they are using our old toners cartridges to Cloud seed ??
Joe I don't have 30 minutes to waste on these guys, at what time do they make ths claim?So they are using our old toners cartridges to Cloud seed ??
At 6:50 carbon black ? says they are not chemtrails only Cloud seeding ?Joe I don't have 30 minutes to waste on these guys, at what time do they make ths claim?
Although studying an absorbing aerosol is a useful counterpart to previous studies involving sulfate aerosols, black carbon geoengineering likely carries too many risks to make it a viable option for deployment.
These guys are confusing cloud seeding with geoengineering.The study of black carbon geoengineering is useful in
understanding the climate response to a spectrum of different
aerosol properties. However, due to the numerous, potentially
catastrophic side effects, it is likely not viable itself as
a means of modifying the climate.
So, are you really into this radar hoax stuff, you trust this guy?At 6:50 carbon black ? says they are not chemtrails only Cloud seeding ?
No I havent, but I did give 20 bucks to him once becuase his bike ride for childrens cancer . http://stlouis.pedalthecause.org/splash2013/index.html. No Im no longer sure he had that radar thing right , But not knowing anything about radar how does one prove him wrong . Its kinda like listening to Coast to Coast . Can be entertaining his theory . Like a good sci -fi . Its You Tube Jay what can you expect . I see the dark trails alot and they are just shadows [h=1]. Parallel Shadow[/h] .Going back a few years on my site Jay ?So, are you really into this radar hoax stuff, you trust this guy?
http://treasurecoastskywatch.blogspot.com/2011/09/dutchsinse-banned-from-you-tube-because.html
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Joe, have you ever seen a chaff release on radar?
Does it make a continuous line emanating from a plane moving 300+ mph like a contrail. Or does it just drift off with the wind?
One last question, you haven't given dutchsinse any money, have you?
.Going back a few years on my site Jay ?
Geoengineering By Committee? Time To Get Totalitarian http://www.science20.com/news_articles/geoengineering_committee_time_get_totalitarian-104431 This is what bothers me Jay Not Dutch .Two years is but an instant when you get to be my age.....
Just wondering how deeply held this is for you. I've been watching the radar stuff as long as chemtrails.
This guy was waaaaaay ahead of dutchnonsense:
http://radaranomalies.com/YEAR1998.htm
A friend of mine did a debunking of that stuff sooooo many years ago:
http://web.archive.org/web/20120301142336/http://www.letxa.com/nexradintro.php
Geoengineering By Committee? Time To Get Totalitarian http://www.science20.com/news_articles/geoengineering_committee_time_get_totalitarian-104431 This is what bothers me Jay Not Dutch .
I did read it "Social authoritarianism may be the way to go, according to modeling work from Carnegie's Katharine Ricke and Ken Caldeira and Juan Moreno-Cruz from the Georgia Institute of Technology. Their game-theoretic computer model found that a suitably powerful coalition would have incentive to exclude other countries from participating in the decision-making process about geo-engineering Earth.You should try reading the actual article - which has a somewhat different content to the sensationalist headline that no doubt attracts many.
This is what bothers me Jay Not Dutch .
Joe, have you ever seen a chaff release on radar?
He said chaff was a gel. It isn't.
I can tell you that my boyfriend, who is a touring musician, was flying and absolutely saw the planes spraying black chemtrails, definitely NOT shadows. And this was a few years ago.
That's the problem with so many of these reports. Even though phone cameras are ubiquitous and billions have one when they go out, every "black" trail they show us is a shadow.So your comments would be far more helpful if we actually saw in what conditions the trails were observed.
No I havent, but I did give 20 bucks to him once becuase his bike ride for childrens cancer . http://stlouis.pedalthecause.org/splash2013/index.html. No Im no longer sure he had that radar thing right , But not knowing anything about radar how does one prove him wrong . Its kinda like listening to Coast to Coast . Can be entertaining his theory . Like a good sci -fi . Its You Tube Jay what can you expect . I see the dark trails alot and they are just shadows . Parallel Shadow
.Going back a few years on my site Jay ?
Well here is a update on HAARP RINGS where he calls out the skeptics at Metabunk , You can be absolutely sure he does not have that "radar thing" right. His (Dutchsinse) understanding of weather radar is uneducated and confused and there is very little, if anything, he has down correctly. I can say that with 100 percent absolute certainty. To revisit my previous posts, I work for the weather service as an electronics tech and part of that scope of duties is maintenance and repair of the WSR-88D radar.
BTW - for anyone curious as to how the NWS operates, most weather service offices do conduct open houses once a year and sometimes private tours upon request. I have given tours of the ground based portion of a WSR-88D to college students. Find your local office and give them a call. Every office has a web page with a contact number listed.
Well here is a update where he calls out the skeptics at Metabunk ,
Well here is a update on HAARP RINGS where he calls out the skeptics at Metabunk ,
A yugo Can do 200 miles an hour Jay . Off A cliff You should ask him to join Metabunk Jay . Hey it says Im a Senior member here now When do i get My Government check ? Or is that because Im over 50 ?Is this guy available for a free and open debate where he isn't able to delete and/or modify what commenters say?
If not, he isn't "calling anyone out".
Essentially, he is saying that just because some Ferraris can do 200 mph, a Yugo can do the same.
HAARP is doing what it is designed to do, heat a small part of the ionosphere.
Weather radars don't heat the atmosphere, or make "HAARP" rings.
None of what he shows in that video validates any of what he has been claiming to see on weather radars.
The only thing of significance here is that he is being affected by our efforts, he is hurting badly and has been forced to make a pitiful response.
At least John Massaria had the guts to come face us here. This one is putting thisout simply to feed the folks that he has in tow already, a ploy to save face and bolster the faithful. Sad, really.
I'd guess that terminal velocity of a Yugo is considerably less, probably no more than 100 mph at free fall.A yugo Can do 200 miles an hour Jay . Off A cliff
thats true since its not very aerodynamic . looks like a BoxI'd guess that terminal velocity of a Yugo is considerably less, probably no more than 100 mph at free fall.
To top it off, with this Navy experiment — the plasma RING/SPHERE was observed on RADAR from Poker Flats, AK.. refuting even more skeptics who said HAARP cannot be seen on RADAR.
Ironic indeed that the frequency they used from HAARP matches the capability of NEXRAD RADAR.. as they are creating this plasma in the atmosphere using 0-4MHz.. (nexrad pulses between 0 to 12.4MHz putting the HAARP frequency and RADAR frequency on overlapping spectrums)
Furthermore, separately, we found RADAR is used to generate plasma from a place called SPEAR (in Norway) , they are using RADAR as a ‘heater’ in the same GHz spectrum that NEXRAD RADAR normally operates on when not in pulse mode (2.7GHz to 3.0GHz). Proving RADAR can , and is currently being used to induce effects in the atmosphere — not just observe it.
If you guys would mind your manners a little maybe he would . Jay you can be a harsh at times . Not that it bothers me since almost everyone here disagrees with me Im quite used to it
Top Gear dropped a Beetle from a copter over Sth Africa IIRC - the terminal speed was something like 120mph.thats true since its not very aerodynamic . looks like a Box
Top Gear dropped a Beetle from a copter over Sth Africa IIRC - the terminal speed was something like 120mph.
Found it -
- 125mph
Perhaps it's a bit mroe aerodynamic than a Yugo, what with those curves??
I still can't figure out if he's perpetrating a purposeful hoax or if he really is that scientifically illiterate. The only thing new about the experiment is they produced increased electron densities for a longer period of time and at a different harmonic frequency than was attempted in prior experiments. There have been numerous similar experiments in both the lower and upper layers of the ionosphere. This new experiment changes nothing about what debunkers have been saying.
From his blog post:
I don't recall anyone saying that the effects of ionospheric heaters could not be detected by radar operating within the UHF band. That's the point, to skip radio transmissions in the HF band off the ionosphere. Anyone who understands the research involved with ionospheric heaters knows that radar is often used to diagnose the effects of HF transmissions on the ionosphere.
In his blog post he claims that WSR-88D has two modes, a "pulse mode" and a normal mode.
He seems to think you can just change the frequency band of WSR-88D transmissions like turning a dial on a radio. NO you cannot do that with ANY transmitter. And where does he come up with this 0 to 12.4 MHz crap? Something he mis-read on the back of a cereal box?
The SPEAR project utilizes a number of instruments, including radar, that detect the effects of the HF transmitter. The radar itself does not affect the ionosphere. The EISCAT and SuperDARN radars have OBSERVED the effects of SPEARS dipole array HF transmissions on the ionosphere. The SuperDARN radars operate in the HF band and EISCAT in the UHF band, not within the WSR-88D frequency range of 2.7 - 3.0 GHz as dutch claims. What a complete and total fraud this guy is. Absolutely amazing.
You sure you want to debate the more tech savvy debunkers dutch? If so, bring it on.
Edit:
About his "pulse mode". Transmitting in bursts, or pulses, is an inherent aspect of how radar functions. To call any mode "pulse mode" would just be redundant. Radar in general and especially doppler radar used for weather radar works by sending a short burst or pulse then switching to the receiver and waiting to receive return signals for a set amount of time, then another short burst is transmitted then back to receiving, wash-rinse-repeat. The timeframes are measured in something like milliseconds, being that radio waves travel at the speed of light and all. But his unquestioning flock oohs and aahhhhs whenever they find out that radar does indeed transmit in pulses... like a few thousand bursts per second.
Solrey - I found it - as I suspected, he is quoting some alleged technical documentation regarding the output pulse spectrum - I dug deep into his "all you wanna know about HAARP" blog and found this - “Short pulse output spectrum: -40 dB BW is 12.4 MHz, (-80 dB at +/- 62 MHz), -80 dB at +/- 19.6 MHz for congested areas(congested areas require transmitter output bandpass filter)” All that is referring to is a 12.4 MHZ bandwidth as measured at -40dB. However, our official WSR-88D manuals allow for a half bandwidth of 7.26 MHZ at -40 dB so I am not even sure what it is he is linked to.
Clearly this is where he gets the 12.4 MHZ from. It's roughly halfway down on this page - http://sincedutch.wordpress.com/2012...r-here-you-go/
And yes, he does seem to think you can just spin a dial on some tuner and change the frequency of a weather radar, again showing absolutely no comprehension of how a weather radar works. But hey, when you can say "it's showing as a quick flash through the high RF spectrum" (huh?).....man, that just sounds so awesome to someone who has no clue either.
Treasurecoastskywatch, dutch asked me to debate him a few days ago so he must be OK with a little mud slinging, considering he does plenty of that himself.
Let us know where and when to watch the train wreck!
Solrey - I found it - as I suspected, he is quoting some alleged technical documentation regarding the output pulse spectrum - I dug deep into his "all you wanna know about HAARP" blog and found this - “Short pulse output spectrum: -40 dB BW is 12.4 MHz, (-80 dB at +/- 62 MHz), -80 dB at +/- 19.6 MHz for congested areas(congested areas require transmitter output bandpass filter)” All that is referring to is a 12.4 MHZ bandwidth as measured at -40dB. However, our official WSR-88D manuals allow for a half bandwidth of 7.26 MHZ at -40 dB so I am not even sure what it is he is linked to.
Clearly this is where he gets the 12.4 MHZ from. It's roughly halfway down on this page - http://sincedutch.wordpress.com/201...nt-to-prove-it-to-a-non-believer-here-you-go/
And yes, he does seem to think you can just spin a dial on some tuner and change the frequency of a weather radar, again showing absolutely no comprehension of how a weather radar works. But hey, when you can say "it's showing as a quick flash through the high RF spectrum" (huh?).....man, that just sounds so awesome to someone who has no clue either.
Let us know where and when to watch the train wreck!