Cloud-seeding Chemtrails?

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I found this video going around the chemtrail world. It seems to be promoting a new(?) kind of cloud seeding operation going on in Thailand. It's not in English but you can make out the words "Sodium Chloride" and "Calcium Chloride"... Not sure what to make of this one but thought you guys might know.

 
That's quite a nice video. But all it's showing is cloud seeding. There's this odd misconception in the chemtrail world that cloud seeding is some kind of secret activity, the existence of which proves that chemtrails exist. Really though cloud seeding has been around for at least 50 years, and it looks in reality very little like the persistent contrails that people describe as "chemtrails".

Here's an article discussing the project in detail.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/GD06Ae02.html
 
Thanks Mick, I wasn't familiar with this particular cloud seeding technique... Technically, this would be a chemtrail, although ironically- it does not fit the chemtrail myth.
 
I know a couple of people who speak Thai - I'll send them this link & see what it is saying
 
Here is an article in the Sydney Morning Herald dated August 8, 2010
Thai rain making comes to Qld
It was referred from "NORTHLAND NEW ZEALAND CHEMTRAILS WATCH" as The Australian Government Signed Contract to Turn Queensland into a wetland
and introduced like this:
The article that mentions a contract, is here: Thai rain making comes to Qld. Remember the Military Industrial Media Pharmaceutical Central Banking Weather-Modification Complex has taken control of the world’s weather.
The blogger is suggesting that the floods were on purpose.
The rest of the article focuses on problems the BoM is having with their radar displays.
 
Interesting link there to a guy obsessed with weather radar artifacts:

http://www.colinandrews.net/Cloud-Radar-Circle-Australia-2010-0116.html
The picture of the "radar rings" is the result of a test period for a Tesla Shield Generator. The correct question is
"What type of government installation is located at the center of that image"

It's the radar station. Any circular artifact is going to be centered around the radar station.

It's another good example of why you have to check your own assumptions about what people know or do not know when debunking. Anyone with a passing interest in the weather would realize a perfectly circular pattern like that is only going to be cause by some kind of radar interference or malfunction. But apparently the conspiracy minded think that there actually is a giant circle of some kind (in Australia) being generated from somewhere else, like Alaska.
 
Since you brought up radar, I have a question about the "chaff" videos... I'm sure you have seen them, weathermen like this one claiming their radars are being mucked with from chaff. In this particular one there is no way this is chaff as it covers too large an area... Not sure how he failed to recognize it as moisture, but I don't see how it could be anything else... Thoughts???
 
(Gah! I had a nice reply to this but my login times out and I lost it.)
The nub of it was: I have no experience of chaff in weather radar. This guy seems sure that this is chaff. If I were him, I would be very sure before going public, given the sensitivity.

Do you have data that suggests this is not chaff?
 
@Ross- No I don't have data, because I was not there to collect any. I think it's more about the lack of data that makes chaff highly unlikely... First of all, this kind of signature would take hundreds(if not Thousands) of planes to create and this would not go unnoticed by people in the area and more importantly- ATC. And Secondly, that kind of distribution would leave a noticeable fallout on the ground and also endanger other aircraft by creating potential harmful build up in the engines... So chaff can be ruled out because none of those things ever happened. Most likely, you have some kind of radar glitch, or in my opinion- a rather poor/noob local weatherman.
 
Thousands of planes? That could be done with one plane. All it's got to do is lay one 80 mile plume north-south on the east coast, then 2-3 hours of wind will blow it out over the west.

Here's a military report on chaff.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/gao/ns98219.pdf

Which has this image of two or three plumes of chaff covering an area 400 miles wide.



And a useful quote:

The continuous stream technique, called saturation chaff, may be used by
aircraft to cover a large area. By 2005 or 2006, the Army also plans to use
saturation chaff to mask vehicle and troop movements. Using a cutter,
360 pounds of chaff from nine 40-pound rolls can be deployed in 10
minutes. Depending on the method and the number of aircraft, such
releases could disperse billions of fibers. The B-52 can carry about 750
seven-ounce boxes of chaff; each box contains up to 11 million fibers that
can be expelled continuously or in bursts.

A B-52 cruising at 400mph would make a 66 mile long plume in ten minutes.
 
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chemtrails are real

obviously youre on some sort of disinformation payroll -
after heavy raining in LA - the skies are crystal clear with real clouds in the sky - That is what the sky is supposed to look like - today back to spraying as usual - Military planes flown at 2:00 am till 5:00 am - murk up the skies agin
Remember we know what the sky really looks like after it rains
Do passenger planes fly on rainy days..YES - does the chemical dispesent of a non passenger jet/military plane stay in the sky when it rains...NOOOOO - thats the answer - that is the devil in the detail
Thats not your real picture either MR. Moderater admin guy - gee your so honest
 
Why would these "military" planes not leave trails when it was raining? Rain clouds are at a very low altitude compared to the trails.

Contrails are so high that they are actually made of ice. So they are unrelated to rain. I also live in LA, and I saw the same blue skies, then lots of contrails today, then now there's some scattered high clouds. You can see why this happens by looking at today's satellite photo:



See that large band of wispy clouds over LA? That's a region of ice-supersaturate air, where cirrus clouds are forming, and where contrails are persistent when they fly through it.
 
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Military planes flown at 2:00 am till 5:00 am - murk up the skies agin
Remember we know what the sky really looks like after it rains
Do passenger planes fly on rainy days..YES - does the chemical dispesent of a non passenger jet/military plane stay in the sky when it rains...NOOOOO
I'm wondering what 'babyjesus' would say if he found out that the planes he sees are not military, but rather commercial jets?


If he believed that ONLY military jets were 'spraying', but found out that commercial passenger jets made EXACTLY the same trails he has been calling 'military', his whole world would come crashing down. This is what happened to my friend "Chickiedeb" when she started to do this:

http://goodsky.homestead.com/files/brendt2.html

When Chickiedeb was able to identify the planes she saw overhead, she almost fainted, her world changed forever, and the truth set her free!
 
So, 'babyjesus', are you willing to risk changing your world?

There are no mystery jets.

Any chemmie who really wants to know what flies a mere six miles away can do so by using flight tracking feeds
to identify the planes they see.

Why don't all the skywatch people exhort their members to do this?

Why doesn't Rosalind Petersen tell her friends to do this?

Why doesn't William Thomas tell his followers to do this?

Why don't the Belfort Group members tell their people to do this?

Why doesn't Michael J. Murphy tell people to do this?

Why, why, why, why, why????????
 
And here's the sort of setup you can use to positively identify any aeroplane flying at any height - camera & telescope. the scope reasonably priced at asbout US$600 IIRC (I did look it up a week or 2 ago). an 8" version is cheaper again and would probably be perfectly adequate too.

Check the quality of photos at the bottom of this page

Every dedicated chemtrailer should have something like this to take decent photos and collect much better quality evidence than blurry blobs!
 
The problem is that if they did do that, then they would see it's just planes, and cease to be chemtrailers.

Or at least they would cease to be "they are spraying it from nozzles" chemtrailers, and just "they add it to the fuel, or exhaust, somehow" chemtrailers. Still it would at least be positive step.
 
I suppose I already answered my question about why most chemmies don't make use of the tools that are available to them. Their leadership obviously hasn't told them.

Carnicom came close ten years ago with a telephoto lens,but it was way too fuzzy. He evidently liked doodling with microscopes a whole lot more.

Ironically strange, eh that he would zoom into the most microscopic stuff for ten plus years all the while if he had zoomed in with a telescope he could have solved his mystery soooooo much easier.

Bill Hall was perhaps the first chemmie I know of, nearly 11 years ago, to telescope a plane and STILL call it a chemtrail:
"This guy was laying down huge trails Saturday 3-4-2000. The show is through a Celestron C6 by Bill Hall who lives just northwest of Houston."

My link to the site isn't working, but to see the photo
use the internet archive.org to search the year 2000 for this URL:
http://www.neosoft.com/~cshramek/


I believe it was identified as a Southwest Airlines livery

BTW, Mick, I've tried to login a dozen times, even reset mypassword but still cannot get in under my username.
Jay Reynolds
 
Thanks for the link - here's another photo from it - Mick you may want to put this one in both "Racetrack contrails" and "Contrail photos through the ages".....





It is linked to here on some websites but I don't have permission to view it there - if it is still there - eg Rense so is known to the chemtrail community - but for soeem reason it doesn't sem widely circulated - perhaps because it is inconveniently prior to the suppsoed start of chemtrails in the late 1990's??

I can't find it on the NOAA website.
 
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