Good way to avoid the issue of how much sense does that "stolen phones answered" story make? was a mourning relative even identified by name? nope, they were making up wholesale. Here's some evidence you asked for about "media screaming about bodies being left to rot" etc Let me know if you want more......... http://nypost.com/2014/07/21/mh17-recovery-efforts-in-shambles-as-bodies-pile-up/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ictims-robbed-of-their-dignity-by-rebels.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...lack-bags-and-loaded-onto-trains-9617172.html http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/19/mh17-armed-rebels-chaos-corpses-ukraine http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...sian-separatists/story-fnizu68q-1226994383389 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ed-around-and-robbed/articleshow/38751679.cms http://www.standartnews.com/english/read/mh17_victims_robbed_of_their_dignity_-4440.html http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2014/07/21/rebels-move-bodies-from-mh17-site.html http://www.enca.com/rebels-remove-bodies-have-material-resembling-mh17-black-boxes http://mrapolitical.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/mh-17-disaster-too-many-bodies-are.html http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-07-23/at-mh17-crash-site-more-evidence-of-tampering http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...h-site-evidence-tampering-on-industrial-scale http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/uk...ampered-industrial-scale-australia-pm-n161801 http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/08/05/MH17-Russia-tampering/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ampering-evidence-bodies-MH17-crash-site.html That last one is interesting. news.com au is a News Ltd site which includes The Australian which is currently rabidly pro USA and pro Israel and anti anything else Middle East, and The Telegraph which always was a sensationalist tabloid, albeit a morning paper. I've worked at both, long long ago, and seen how news is "made". The linked "stolen telephones" story is what they call a "beat-up" (as in eggwhites, making something big out of mostly air).