Kristen Meghan, former US Air Force whistle-blower?

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Georgia said:
This morning I received a text message, ....................... SSgt Edwards is just an ill-educated attention seeker who cries wolf the moment her curtain of lies and deceit are discovered.
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Thanks Georgia. Earlier I posted that I felt sorry for her. That was based on the hope that her claims other than the chemtrail ones had some sort of validity. I withdraw my sympathy, but Kristin if you are reading this thread, I reiterate the warning about classified material and the dire consequences that await you if you release any material you came into contact with during your service.
 
TWCobra said:
Thanks Georgia. Earlier I posted that I felt sorry for her. That was based on the hope that her claims other than the chemtrail ones had some sort of validity. I withdraw my sympathy, but Kristin if you are reading this thread, I reiterate the warning about classified material and the dire consequences that await you if you release any material you came into contact with during your service.
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To be honest that comment while valid and correct is not helpful. Firstly she will just claim automatically that any material is classified. Second, as has been shown with the military on the past there may be compelling reasons to bring to public attention information, namely on health and safety grounds. This was seen with Gulf War Syndrome and use of Depleted Uranium. Been in the military does not take away the rights to work in a safe environment.

I would say the opposite, that if she has information to release it. If it is compelling that can only be for the public good.
 
I am Kristen's Mother and am appalled at the hate and ignorance in the comments. None of you know my daughter. For those who may be from Warner Robins AFB, you are just out to discredit my daughter because does know a great deal ( you have no idea of how intelligent she is ) It wasn't until she started bringing things to the attention of her superiors, did she start having problems. Threats she talks about are true. As far as the slanderous remark about being caught in the act with her boyfriend, shame of those who report this. I know a number of those who worked with Kristen who are VERY questionable in the stability category. So, keep up with your rhetoric and hateful remarks. I fell sorry for and pity you!!
 
Kristen Meghan's Mother said:
I am Kristen's Mother and am appalled at the hate and ignorance in the comments. None of you know my daughter. For those who may be from Warner Robins AFB, you are just out to discredit my daughter because does know a great deal ( you have no idea of how intelligent she is ) It wasn't until she started bringing things to the attention of her superiors, did she start having problems. Threats she talks about are true. As far as the slanderous remark about being caught in the act with her boyfriend, shame of those who report this. I know a number of those who worked with Kristen who are VERY questionable in the stability category. So, keep up with your rhetoric and hateful remarks. I fell sorry for and pity you!!
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I think enough has been said about KM as a person, and her history.

Can posters please try to keep future posts to a factual discussion of any evidence that KM has claimed.
 
Kristen's mum - there are a lot of intelligent people in the world - your daughter certainly seems like one of them, but she is not unique.

However the "evidence" she claims in the video simply does not relate to chemtrails orr geoengineering at all, and the OSHA and soil contamination problems at various airbases are not actually secret.

So a lot of equally intelligent people are looking at her evidence and her claims, and seeing that they aer contrived, or irrelevant or exagerated, and making conclusions about her based on that.

If the evidence she offered was of better quality - eg if she actually provided supporting documentation, or if it actually had something to do with chemtrails or geoengineering then perhaps it might be taken seriously. Perhaps you could talk to your daughter and aprise her of this.
 
Kristen Meghan's Mother said:
I am Kristen's Mother and am appalled at the hate and ignorance in the comments. None of you know my daughter. For those who may be from Warner Robins AFB, you are just out to discredit my daughter because does know a great deal ( you have no idea of how intelligent she is ) It wasn't until she started bringing things to the attention of her superiors, did she start having problems. Threats she talks about are true. As far as the slanderous remark about being caught in the act with her boyfriend, shame of those who report this. I know a number of those who worked with Kristen who are VERY questionable in the stability category. So, keep up with your rhetoric and hateful remarks. I fell sorry for and pity you!!
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I am sorry you feel your daughter is being attacked . . . the debate over geoengineering and toxic contamination are significant issues. Your daughter is presenting evidence which is going to be challenged and debated very seriously and questioned as to its credibility and relevance . . . This unfortunately brings into question the source and reliability of the evidence . . . your daughter is that source . . . if my comments have offended you or your daughter please accept my apologies . . .
 
The chem trail hoax is already causing folks to try to bring down planes. In my opinion, if they ever do, then the blood of those that are killed will be on the hands of everyone that has encouraged that nonsense.

Right now, your daughter is among them.
 
Kristen Meghan's Mother said:
I am Kristen's Mother and am appalled at the hate and ignorance in the comments. None of you know my daughter. For those who may be from Warner Robins AFB, you are just out to discredit my daughter because does know a great deal ( you have no idea of how intelligent she is )
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If you are her Mother,please tell her, that she can argue for themself.

She had done it 3 Months ago. She has an account to this forum. She had take part on this thread.

Why is she absent since Januar?

Mick said:
I think enough has been said about KM as a person, and her history.
Can posters please try to keep future posts to a factual discussion of any evidence that KM has claimed.
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Sorry ;-)
 
Biggerdave said:
To be honest that comment while valid and correct is not helpful. Firstly she will just claim automatically that any material is classified. Second, as has been shown with the military on the past there may be compelling reasons to bring to public attention information, namely on health and safety grounds. This was seen with Gulf War Syndrome and use of Depleted Uranium. Been in the military does not take away the rights to work in a safe environment.

I would say the opposite, that if she has information to release it. If it is compelling that can only be for the public good.
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There are people in the military and intelligence world who routinely access to information that would bring down their government if it was to be released. They manage to not go on YouTube threatening to release that information while proclaiming themselves poster girls for their service.

NCOs in her job description are not given access to world shattering information, in her case it would seem, with good reason. She has some OSHA issues with the USAF. There is a chain of command process for dealing with them. If they weren't resolved to her satisfaction there are other avenues for redress. Doing what she is doing is putting herself at great risk of prosecution, for what reason?

KMM, if you really are her mother you may potentially be the only person who can keep her out of jail.
 
Trigger Hippie said:
Hi Georgia, that's a hell of a post and it seems to fall in line with what most had already concluded.

I'd like to move away from her backstory, and focus on her allegations. Is there anything you can add to help debunk (or clarify) some the chemtrail claims she's alluded to in this thread? Most were vague and somewhat evasive. She mentioned chemicals entering airbases that where not labelled correctly... she apparently saw "processes" on airfields that were related to chemtrailing... do you know what she is talking about?
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I cannot speak for the claims she has made regarding unlabeled chemicals in Oklahoma specifically or processes she has claimed to witness in Oklahoma specifically due to the fact that I have never been stationed there. IF she reviewed related processes, what I can tell you is those processes were not classified (there aren't any classified case files at Tinker; a case file is ALL Bioenvironmental documentation on a work center) and therefore the data CAN be made public. Since SSgt Edwards refuses to show visual proof of her claims, ask her to at least share the case file number of the work center containing the process or processes relating to chemtrailing. If she truly believes there is evidence then she can at least meet the general public halfway by providing the 4-digit alpha-numeric case file designation, which should be found on the documentation that is "laying around her house somewhere"; to allow the current Oklahoma Bioenvironmental Personnel to bring this issue to light.

Regarding the 3952 process she speaks of in the video and chemicals entering Tinker AFB incorrectly labeled, let me start off by saying that a Bioenvironmental engineering tech does not physically see hazardous materials when they arrive on base. The Bioenvironmental techs role in the 3952 process is strictly an administrative role in regards to researching HAZMAT constituents and and determining whether there are lesser hazardous materials that can be utilized for the process. Bio would then either approve, deny, or approve with conditions (i.e. lesser hazardous materials utilization) in a system we use called HMMS (Hazardous Materials Management System). After this, Bio would not deal with the hazardous material again until they perform the required work center surveys. There is a completely separate Air Force organization that deals with shipping/receiving HAZMAT, and that work center falls within Civil Engineering...Bioenvironmental Engineering personnel do not work in Civil Engineering...we work in the Medical Group. The work center that receives ALL HAZMAT onto the base that falls under Civil Engineering will either be called the HAZMART (Hazardous Material Pharmacy) or the HAZMAT cell.
 
Georgia said:
[Admin note: This post is in violation of the politeness policy, but I'm letting it stand for now as the descriptions in the post are relevant to Kristin's claims, since she seems to simply relying on her own testimony as evidence. However in generally, please try to address the claims, and not the person]
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I hope members on this forum take this to heart......what I pride in this forum is the refrain from 'person-bashing'.....let's please keep it that way...thx. :)
 
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Georgia said:
If she truly believes there is evidence then she can at least meet the general public halfway by providing the 4-digit alpha-numeric case file designation, which should be found on the documentation that is "laying around her house somewhere"; to allow the current Oklahoma Bioenvironmental Personnel to bring this issue to light.
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Thanks Georgia, that's exactly the kind of insight I was hoping you'd provide.

I'm a little short on time these days and can't devote as much as I would like to Metabunk. Going on memory, I believe she posted that she had in her possession (somewhere in her house) samples of carcinogenic chemicals taken from Tinker AFB. Did she also claim to have documentation?
 
Georgia said:
[Admin note: This post is in violation of the politeness policy, but I'm letting it stand for now as the descriptions in the post are relevant to Kristin's claims, since she seems to simply relying on her own testimony as evidence. However in generally, please try to address the claims, and not the person]

This morning I received a text message, which included a Youtube link, from a former coworker. I clicked the link and found myself starring at the face and listening to the rambling of a voice I thought I would never have to hear again in my life...a voice that loved to incestantly ramble able nothingness while the brain which controlled it thought it was so much more intelligent than those who were actually educated unlike herself who at that time was working on an online degree at a mediocre school that doesnt require a Thesis or any other form of actual research to receive a degree; a school that is known amongst military members at best as being a school where you "pay your fee, you get a B" mentality...or better known as Columbia Southern University. This voice would be the voice of a previous Robins AFB coworker, Staff Sergeant Kristen Edwards. After watching her attempt at stardom in the video I then Googled this new name she has chosen to go by and found this thread. I have read through this thread in it's entirety and have to say most of you have identified her successfully for what she is. She does not know what it means to properly cite peer reviewed research because the college she chose to educate herself through is known for not requiring proper research techniques with coursework. The Air Force Bioenvironmental Engineering school in which we attend is three months long. During that time we are taught basics with actually performing soil, air, and water sampling, noise surveying and dosimetry, radiation surveys, and basic CBRNE. From there we are then sent to our first assignments where we receive the majority of our education in the OJT capacity. In SSgt Edwards case that was England. Once all of our OJt requirements are met we take a multiple choice exam on the above items, and would then be considered eligible to receive the remainder of our OJT and additional in-residents training, which is only a two-week course. So you tell me...does that sound like a properly educated expert?


Back to SSgt Kristin Edwards...the last thing she can EVER be considered is a whistle blower, and I'm quite frankly surprised that whomever is indorsing her has not done a better job researching her allegations. SSgt Edwards only problems at Robins AFB are problems with authority and lack of integrity, and after all she said in her video about her previous location in Oklahoma as well as her civilian position with the VA, I suspect those two issues were probably similar in those workcenters. Having to work with SSgt Edwards on a daily basis proved to be daunting since she struggled to report to work on time day in and day out, failed to perform surveys in a timely manner, failed to properly communicate with supervisors of those workcenters, and failed to respect her supervision. In regards to the OSHA issue that occurred during her tenure in our office, she made an attempt to make it a larger situation then it was when she was found in an inappropriate situation in her boyfriends industrial shop, and that inappropriate situation was reported to our supervision and commander, and her boyfriends shop supervisor informed our commander that he did not want to see SSgt Edwards in his workcenter ever again...that he wanted another technician assigned to perform his workcenters surveys. As you can imagine, being caught in the act and verbally reprimanded made for an extremely unhappy SSgt Edwards, so from there she spoonfed her boyfriend with ways to try to hurt Robins AFB by educating him on the OSHA belly button that needed to be pushed to keep them coming. All said and done, it resulted in poor housekeeping by the workcenter, of which they had been previously cited by our office. When she realized she wasnt going to get the fireworks she had hoped for and had instead burnt too many bridges to have a successful Air Force Career, she opted to separate.


In an earlier comment someone questioned how an uneducated person could get such a high ranking civil service position; the VA has a couple programs for veterans who have 30% or more disability that will automatically qualify them for those positions as long as the person "tailors" their resume to match the position description. I can tell you first hand SSgt Edwards is not a qualified GS-12. She is a rockstar in her head...Einstein even...but not a GS-12, and certainly not a chemtrail expert or whistle blower. SSgt Edwards is just an ill-educated attention seeker who cries wolf the moment her curtain of lies and deceit are discovered.
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In an attempt to be even handed. . . We are engaged in vetting Kristen for obvious reasons. . . Georgia, you have indicated you were a coworker of hers . . . may we ask your experience level and knowledge to further validate your ability to comment on Kristen's training and knowledge . . . you seem to have inside information . . . would you mind answering if possible any of the following questions. . . .

1) Were you junior, senior or on equal footing to SSgt Edwards?
2) Were you operating in the identical capacity . . . same AFSC as SSgt Edwards . . . just on different cases?
3) Do you have any reason other than a desire to set the story straight to bring this informations forward?
 
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Trigger Hippie said:
Well, she is speaking out and certainly never misses an opportunity to publicize her name or talk about herself. I mean look what she says here. She quits her job so she could publicize her name. She came to Metabunk to defend her name. It's not about coming forth with the evidence, it's about getting her name out.
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What he said.

This is the case with at least three people we're discussing on MB to my mind. They're actually interested in getting a headstart in the geoengineering debate they foresee on the horizon, and use the chemtrail community / social media presence as a springboard for (for example) youtube views, signatures in support of directives, publicity for talks etc, and of course access to Alex Jones and the rest of the CT mainstream.

EDIT - Read the entire thread after posting. If Mick deems this post to be off topic, please delete, though I think it speaks to the wider debate of which KM's claims are a part.
 
Can posters please try to keep future posts to a factual discussion of any evidence that KM has claimed.
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If Kristen actually has any evidence and discloses it I'd be happy to discuss it. In the meantime we're left wondering who is this person asking us to just take her word for it, but I see no evidence that we should take her word for anything... quite the opposite in fact.

Kristenmeghan wrote:
... yay me.
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That pretty much sums up the nature of the "evidence" she has provided thus far.

She claims to have continued to take soil samples and states that certain levels are way above background, but conveniently fails to mention exactly what those levels are. She even refuses to disclose her methodology.

So instead of answering perfectly legitimate questions we get her mommy stepping in to defend her honor. A pathetic dog and pony show if ever I've seen one.
 
Stupid said:
I hope members on this forum take this to heart......what I pride in this forum is the refrain from 'person-bashing'.....let's please keep it that way...thx. :)
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Under certain conditions VALID personal observations are relevant to an argument at hand. I'm glad Mick let this stand as, though it could be construed to be "personal," in my opinion it was dispassionate enough to be useful in evaluating the situation and claims.
 
Also please note that she is not whistleblowing evidence for chemtrails - it was related to health and safety concerns at the base.
Although if it's the same case that was investigated by authorities I fail to see how it's whistleblowing, unless she provided key evidence.
 
i very much appreciate the recent postings, but yes, i would ask that we demand the same credentials from georgia.
 
Hello everyone. I am Kris’s boyfriend Nate.

I would like to clear the air about the Robins AFB incident. First I wanted to be sure and let everyone know that she and I were never “caught in the act". As everyone knows she would have received and "article 15", and left the AF as an airman. Now on to the whole OSHA topic. I am a NDI technician. I was performing x ray testing on F-15 Inlet ramps and C-5 Flaps. I noticed a very heavy yellow powder on these parts and under the OSHA workplace safety act; I wanted to know what this dust was and what it could do to my health.

I told my supervisor I was very uncomfortable with inspecting these parts with this dust on them because I inhale it whenever I rip open the film to pack to remove the film and place it in the processor. My supervisor called the “Bio" shops and they sent two people to take swipe samples. 1 happened to be Kris; nobody knew we had been in a relationship for about a year at that time. Now it just so happened the day that she and her coworker came to the shop, we were having a picnic. We had uncooked meat on the same carts we used to place inspection parts on. Kris and her Co-worker went around the shop and took many samples in various areas of my shop. One of which was the ramp cart we had food on.

The samples were sent off and I awaited the results. I inquired to the "bio" shop a few weeks later after the results had arrived. I was then denied access to the results. When I could not see the results, I had begun to worry about why. I told the shop that I wanted the sample results and I was going to file a freedom of "information act" to obtain these results. I then decided that I was just going to cut out the middle man, I then went to my computer and filed an online OSHA complaint agienced robins AFB. OSHA representatives promptly came to ROBINS and my shop. I found the woman in charge and explained to her what was going on. She stated that the "bio" shop is also refusing to let them see the sample results as well. She then began to take her own swipe samples and noted the the "yellow dust" was Strontium Chromate dust and is extremely hazardous to ingest.

After OSHA left and got the results from the samples gathered, the bottom fell out of Robins. There were huge and numerous violations being made and employees were being dangerously over exposed to many many other hazardous chemicals. Due to these violations the base was given a timeline to abate the situations or face shut down. I did what I had to do to protect myself and my coworkers. I want to live a healthy life. I don’t want cancer or any other horrible disease that can emanate from being exposed to hazardous waste. That is the whole story about Robins AFB. Robins has taken steps to mitigate these issues. my own mother and father still work there. i take pride in knowing i caused change that will benefit my parents health and the health of everyone working there. we all deserve a happy,healthy, and safe workplace.
 
Kristen Meghan's Mother said:
Threats she talks about are true. !
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Kristen's mom, she said these threats by US military personnel against her were made in writing.

That is a very serious charge, and one which should be easily proven. Why hasn't it been yet? Doing so would seem to be pretty much the end of any argument. Do you have first hand knowledge of these written threats? Either they exist or they don't. If they do they deserve to be shown. If they don't, why did she say they did?
 
Unregistered said:
Hello everyone. I am Kris’s boyfriend Nate.

I would like to clear the air about the Robins AFB incident. First I wanted to be sure and let everyone know that she and I were never “caught in the act". As everyone knows she would have received and "article 15", and left the AF as an airman. Now on to the whole OSHA topic. I am a NDI technician. I was performing x ray testing on F-15 Inlet ramps and C-5 Flaps. I noticed a very heavy yellow powder on these parts and under the OSHA workplace safety act; I wanted to know what this dust was and what it could do to my health.

I told my supervisor I was very uncomfortable with inspecting these parts with this dust on them because I inhale it whenever I rip open the film to pack to remove the film and place it in the processor. My supervisor called the “Bio" shops and they sent two people to take swipe samples. 1 happened to be Kris; nobody knew we had been in a relationship for about a year at that time. Now it just so happened the day that she and her coworker came to the shop, we were having a picnic. We had uncooked meat on the same carts we used to place inspection parts on. Kris and her Co-worker went around the shop and took many samples in various areas of my shop. One of which was the ramp cart we had food on.

The samples were sent off and I awaited the results. I inquired to the "bio" shop a few weeks later after the results had arrived. I was then denied access to the results. When I could not see the results, I had begun to worry about why. I told the shop that I wanted the sample results and I was going to file a freedom of "information act" to obtain these results. I then decided that I was just going to cut out the middle man, I then went to my computer and filed an online OSHA complaint agienced robins AFB. OSHA representatives promptly came to ROBINS and my shop. I found the woman in charge and explained to her what was going on. She stated that the "bio" shop is also refusing to let them see the sample results as well. She then began to take her own swipe samples and noted the the "yellow dust" was Strontium Chromate dust and is extremely hazardous to ingest.

After OSHA left and got the results from the samples gathered, the bottom fell out of Robins. There were huge and numerous violations being made and employees were being dangerously over exposed to many many other hazardous chemicals. Due to these violations the base was given a timeline to abate the situations or face shut down. I did what I had to do to protect myself and my coworkers. I want to live a healthy life. I don’t want cancer or any other horrible disease that can emanate from being exposed to hazardous waste. That is the whole story about Robins AFB. Robins has taken steps to mitigate these issues. my own mother and father still work there. i take pride in knowing i caused change that will benefit my parents health and the health of everyone working there. we all deserve a happy,healthy, and safe workplace.
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Thank you for your information . . . 1) Can you put some dates to the events above . . . 2) Was there a previous OSHA review and findings to your knowledge; 3) Are you aware of what the threats to SSgt Edwards were?
 
Dates: I honestly cannot put exact dates on this. I remember them being around March 2011, timeframe. Again I could be wrong.
OSHA findings. I know that OSHA had also been called to building 169, where parts are sanded and prepped for NDI after de-paint. This is actually where the whole OSHA involvement started. I knew about the violations in 169 and that is what helped me discover that I needed to further inquire about my shops exposure.
Threats. Kris kept what was going on with her and her chain of command close to the chest. I know that threats were made to have her daughter taken from her if she was to keep pressing issues. I know for some this may be hard to believe, but I promise the steps people will take to have huge violations and cover ups a secret are without measure.
There is a video from when she went on the local news after she left service; this interview is what everyone at robins was so up in arms about. I understand that Robins is the lifeblood of middle Georgia and if it were to shut down, middle Georgia would become a desolate wasteland. Everyone wants to have a job, the fear of being jobless and homeless prompted mass backlash towards Kris. I understand the peoples fear, but I don’t understand why they are willing to be poisoned and mistreated for a paycheck. I know that there is now a permanent OSHA presence on the base.
 
Unregistered said:
Dates: I honestly cannot put exact dates on this. I remember them being around March 2011, timeframe. Again I could be wrong.
OSHA findings. I know that OSHA had also been called to building 169, where parts are sanded and prepped for NDI after de-paint. This is actually where the whole OSHA involvement started. I knew about the violations in 169 and that is what helped me discover that I needed to further inquire about my shops exposure.
Threats. Kris kept what was going on with her and her chain of command close to the chest. I know that threats were made to have her daughter taken from her if she was to keep pressing issues. I know for some this may be hard to believe, but I promise the steps people will take to have huge violations and cover ups a secret are without measure.
There is a video from when she went on the local news after she left service; this interview is what everyone at robins was so up in arms about. I understand that Robins is the lifeblood of middle Georgia and if it were to shut down, middle Georgia would become a desolate wasteland. Everyone wants to have a job, the fear of being jobless and homeless prompted mass backlash towards Kris. I understand the peoples fear, but I don’t understand why they are willing to be poisoned and mistreated for a paycheck. I know that there is now a permanent OSHA presence on the base.
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You information seems consistent . . . so it is your understanding there were other OSHA findings regarding toxic dust in other buildings prior to your request for a survey? Were you aware of or instructed about the proper safety procedures regarding the substances found on the parts you were X-raying prior to your reporting the dust to superiors? In other words . . . do you feel management was responsible and trying to do the right things to protect the workers or were they sloppy and inconsistent . . . ?
 
Yes. There was previous findings in other shops around the base. I want to make it clear that I was not really aware of how serious the previous findings were and the steps taken to abate them before I filed my own complaint. I honestly was not even aware of what the dust actually was. I found out later from the OSHA representative that was in my shop. I was not aware of the serious health risks of this dust either. To be honest I was ignorant to what I was being exposed to. I can say that steps put forth for proper house cleaning and maintenance of parts that were to be distributed throughout the base was not being followed. I have to blame laziness on the employee and the supervisor for not monitoring the goings on of his or her shop. There were also hazards and chemicals that had been left off the “bio surveys” throughout the shops. I had to personally address this issue another time. We use a dye penetrant method a line; in this line we spay pressurized zyglo penetrant onto parts. There was nothing on the survey stating that this was an inhalation hazard. My supervisor fought me tooth and nail to keep the process the same but my persistence prompted another look from the bio office and determined that the PPE requirements were wrong and needed serious updates. These kinds of small infractions happen all over the base. Few realize the implications of the everyday dangers they are exposed to and most say “that’s the way we always do things”. That thought process was not ok with me.
 
Unregistered said:
Yes. There was previous findings in other shops around the base. I want to make it clear that I was not really aware of how serious the previous findings were and the steps taken to abate them before I filed my own complaint. I honestly was not even aware of what the dust actually was. I found out later from the OSHA representative that was in my shop. I was not aware of the serious health risks of this dust either. To be honest I was ignorant to what I was being exposed to. I can say that steps put forth for proper house cleaning and maintenance of parts that were to be distributed throughout the base was not being followed. I have to blame laziness on the employee and the supervisor for not monitoring the goings on of his or her shop. There were also hazards and chemicals that had been left off the “bio surveys” throughout the shops. I had to personally address this issue another time. We use a dye penetrant method a line; in this line we spay pressurized zyglo penetrant onto parts. There was nothing on the survey stating that this was an inhalation hazard. My supervisor fought me tooth and nail to keep the process the same but my persistence prompted another look from the bio office and determined that the PPE requirements were wrong and needed serious updates. These kinds of small infractions happen all over the base. Few realize the implications of the everyday dangers they are exposed to and most say “that’s the way we always do things”. That thought process was not ok with me.
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Thank you . . . 1) would you say that there was an overall systemic problem of toxic exposure because of work practices at WRAFB . . . ? 2) Would you say this was known prior to SSgt Edwards' and your efforts to confront the issues but efforts to correct the situation were ineffective? 3) What was the motive . . . in your opinion . . . to withhold the test results from you . . . ? 4) Have these systemic problems with work process and toxic exposure been fully addressed and corrected as much as possible? 5) Do you see any connection between the toxic exposure of personnel at WRAFB and the Chemtrail Conspiracy in general or specifically?
 
Unregistered said:
She then began to take her own swipe samples and noted the the "yellow dust" was Strontium Chromate dust and is extremely hazardous to ingest.
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Strontium-Cromate is used as Primer in the anti-corrosive coating and paints on Airplanes.

There are several studies about the use on airplanes and the healthy effects on personal for example:

The impact of a change to inhalable occupational exposure limits: strontium chromate exposure in the U.S. Air Force.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12809535

The impact of recirculating industrial air on aircraft painting operations.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10561879

If this stuff is found as a powder on the inlet ramp or the flaps, then something is going completly wrong on the shop...
 
are you all really to take this at face value? i dont see why anyone but KM's posts are credible as her since she has referenced them outside of here.

that is stupid. This is something [someone] would do for fun/to discredit.

that goes for kmm, georgia, the poster above and below me, anyone claiming an identity. this is still the internet remember..
 
1. I would have to agree that there is defiantly a systematic problem at that base, yes.
2. I had heard it said from mouths around that “to tell workers of the hazards they could not fully comprehend would cause mass panic”. I have to say that statement is true due to the obvious truth that most of the workers are not the best and brightest around. Most of the employees are born and raised central Georgia. They are honestly lucky to have a government job; I can say without question that they would not have a job in the private sector. Most will even tell you this fact with a smile on their face. I know it’s crazy, trust me it’s completely true.
3. Before I left in November of 2011, there were mass infraction abatements going on in every shop. These events were often seen as a bothersome activity and most people would just hold a cleaning tool and try to look busy. The workers at robins are ultimately responsible to their job and many seem to hold the idea that robins can never shut down. This thought process keeps any real change for taking place. I cannot emphasize enough how lazy the majority of the work force there really is.
4. As for the “ chemtrail” issue. I have no clue. I don’t want to make a statement about things is don’t know about. I just wanted to help clear the air about Robins to help give you guys all the facts you seek that I could provide. Believe me I am also always on the hunt for “absolute evidence”. I do not begrudge anyone here for their own personal views. I believe in healthy debate. I really like that slander and personal attacks are kept on a leash here. Any questions concerning Robins that I can honestly answer I will do my best to answer. I have been gone for a little over a year now. So current events on the base are a mystery to me.
 
Nate,
I understand that Kristen will be featured in Michael Murphy's next movie which is said to explain "Who In The World Are They Spraying", and her segment will most likely be portrayed as having something to do with the chemtrails conspiracy theory. She has been somewhat ambivalent in her comments, sometimes she speaks about things in a shop, sometimes she says she had nothing to do with the chemtrails conspiracy theory, but then again sometimes she is claiming to have soil samples and records about things which had nothing to do with the shops. She needs to be aware that the maker of that film has already taken interviews of people who had no support for the chemtrails conspiracy theory, then spliced their interview into his film to make it seem otherwise.

Be aware that she may be in the process of setting herself up for such a thing to take place. She may have already signed a release of an interview which she thinks will be portrayed one way but which might turn out differently from what she actually expected. The case of Dr. James Fleming comes to mind.

Kristen needs to be aware of this. If she is portrayed differently than she expects, she can perhaps do little to stop it after the fact, but she needs to be aware that whatever she claims will be scrutinized and her reputation is on the line. Perhaps yours, too.

BTW, I know all about zyglo, had my blond hair turn color after a windy day. Wear a respirator
 
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@lotek. Here is a link to confirm I was at Robins. I was in the local Robins paper with my Bodybuilding friend after we both Placed 3rd in a competition in savannah Georgia. Scan down until you see the article with the guy holding a dumbbell with another female and I am referenced in the article. Also see in the article about the topics I am speaking about. There is a nice article talking about the BIO shop. http://www.robins.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-110407-065.pdf
 
@Jay. Kris often refers to "shops" but does not specify what AFB she is referring to. I can say she is not talking "Chemtrails" coming from Robins. I honestly do not want to talk about " Chemtrails". That topic is for People wishing to debate HER on the matter.
 
Great information Nate, fleshes out the scenario much more. The reaction of denial, refusing to see a problem for what it is, or seeing the pointing out of such things as some form of 'betrayal', as a 'normal' bureaucratic response is very disturbing.

It's a shame it has to be a struggle.

Why would that powder be where it was? Were these new, out-of-the-packet parts?

(and I think face value should be taken - don't assume someone's lying, but let statements stand or fall on the information they contain)
 
lotek said:
are you all really to take this at face value?
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Of course not. If Nate, "the Mom" and the others are a hoax, then eventually they will tip their hand and people will catch on. But it's hard to make any kind of evaluation without engaging them in a conversation. :)
 
lotek said:
i dont see why anyone but KM's posts are credible as her since she has referenced them outside of here.
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What Nate is claiming (!) makes much more sense then the stuff "the girl" told us in their videos.

nate kelly said:
@Jay. Kris often refers to "shops" but does not specify what AFB she is referring to. I can say she is not talking "Chemtrails" coming from Robins. I honestly do not want to talk about " Chemtrails". That topic is for People wishing to debate HER on the matter.
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If if this true what you´re saying, it should be in your interest that your Problem doesn´t get linked with the Chemtrail-Conspiricy. She uses very unserious sources (Carnicom, infowars, prison-planet etc.) and your story is in danger to get in touch with them.
 
there is a lot of good information about the OSHA violations at Robins. just google Robins AFB+ Rev up. The Rev up is the official Base paper. It will give you proper insight at what was going on. I hope this helps. I am in the Process of finding the article which actually has a picture of her talking to workers about the safety hazards.Here is the link for when she came forward to the local news about her experience. http://www.41nbc.com/news/local-news/933-former-rafb-bio-tester-talks-osha-citations
 
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