Kristen Meghan, former US Air Force whistle-blower?

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At a guess, I would say to think of examples like Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden and see what conclusions you come to there.

Well the obvious inference for me is that she hasn't "leaked" anything of importance - since those 2 guys did and look what has happened to/with them!


She mentioned early on in this post that she was discredited and get child taken from her so I think that's where my tail of thought came from.

Yes I've seen comments to that effect - but they seem very speculative - her building a case for what "would" happen if you will - I don't think I have ever seen any actual evidence it is planned or suggested by the authorities.

If she truly believed she was exposing the military or government then I would have thought the firing line she would be stepping into would be obvious.

Indeed....and since nothing obvious has happened I believe there is nothing being exposed - which supports what I've seen her ACTUALLY expose in regard to chemtrails, etc......nothing
 
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That's what I was pointing at but I was saying maybe that's what she was fearing not that she was fearing because of the substance of what she had.

I'm not sure I follow, but then again, I can be thick. Below is a quote from one of the few posts Kristen has made in this thread. I'm not sure how that ties into what you're saying. I tend to bristle when I see her name used in the same sentence with Manning and Snowden. I get the same reaction when people refer to her as a 'Bio-Environmental Engineer'.

The samples I took were a few years ago, I have them some where in my house along with the air sampling that led to the whistleblowing issue. I know that sounds hooky but because they were taken while I was in the military its considered military property. If I publish them I may end up like Bradley Manning or face legal issues.

She incessantly calls herself a whistle blower, but has not actually blown the whistle on anything. If she knows of wrongdoings it's her obligation to report it to the authorities, and not just make Twitter posts.

page1-440px-Whistleblowing.pdf.jpg
 
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You guys go into some real detail, I like it.
If only I could find some sites to show flight paths in the UK as that could really help to explain to other people and would be really interesting at the same time. I'm going the UK would be a lot less busy than those in LAX. :)



Also you can zoom in on this:
http://contrailscience.com/map/

UK gets a lot of overflights from Europe to the US. So it's more air-crowded than you would think.




More at:
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/visualizing-flight-paths-above-30-000-feet.812/
 
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I'm relatively quite late to the Kristan Meghan, affair…trying to catch up…
so I have a sincere question, that may sound snarky, but isn't intended as such:

If Ms. Meghan is saying that having a child does (and will) keep her from showing her "hand,"
does she accept the apparent implication of that--that she has thus far offered nothing of substance?
 
Not sure if you had this provided to you either but she did do the video she said she would.
Hey Mick, I see what you mean that she mentioned your name. Wow!?!

 
Not sure if you had this provided to you either but she did do the video she said she would.
Hey Mick, I see what you mean that she mentioned your name. Wow!?!


This video only addresses evidence of her job title and location of one of her jobs (Tinker AFB) neither of which (to my knowledge) were ever questioned by anyone at Metabunk, especially Mick . . .
 
This video only addresses evidence of her job title and location of one of her jobs (Tinker AFB) neither of which were ever questioned by anyone at Metabunk, especially Mick . . .

Yeah, I think that was all addressed on the first page.
 
Pete Tar, I'm confuse why that post would be deleted on kristen confirming her details, even if it is a repeat!?! It's one I hadn't come across in this thread.
If it was unrelated I could understand but as the are so many pages in this thread I would have thought it could stay on as a more recent post on her credibility for those that haven't talked through all pages.

 
Pete Tar, I'm confuse why that post would be deleted on kristen confirming her details, even if it is a repeat!?! It's one I hadn't come across in this thread.
If it was unrelated I could understand but as the are so many pages in this thread I would have thought it could stay on as a more recent post on her credibility for those that haven't talked through all pages.




I take this comment n back then. My apologies.
 
You guys go into some real detail, I like it.
If only I could find some sites to show flight paths in the UK as that could really help to explain to other people and would be really interesting at the same time. I'm going the UK would be a lot less busy than those in LAX. :)

Also, "casper"...there is this:

http://occ.ivao.aero/upload/nat-page-001.jpg

This is the example of a "North Atlantic Planning Chart" (there are other versions, printed by other sources who may have copyright privileges).

Point of this chart, above, is to show how flights across that particular ocean ( the North Atlantic ) can be routed, and how at each continent, on either side of the ocean, there are Air Traffic Control routes, that are well-determined, and well-known.

I can tell you a LOT more about it. Perhaps in a PM?
 
I'm relatively quite late to the Kristan Meghan, affair…trying to catch up…
so I have a sincere question, that may sound snarky, but isn't intended as such:

If Ms. Meghan is saying that having a child does (and will) keep her from showing her "hand,"
does she accept the apparent implication of that--that she has thus far offered nothing of substance?

I believe her use of this reasoning came relatively later. Previously she told us here (and repeated it elsewhere) that she has passed info to trusted family members and friends. refused to release info to those "out to discredit her" and was also consulting with an attorney on the legalities of something.
 
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My whistleblowing is not related to chemtrails, it is related to industrial ground activities that overexposed the workers and they didn't want it reported, and since I took the samples, they wanted to demonize me in case I spoke out.

It is going through what I did as a whistleblower than led to my activism. Chemtrails and the TSA are my biggest topics I am linked to.

I just watched this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHm0XhtDyZA
[By the way, look at 17:37 everyone, she mentions THIS website and contrailscience as disinfo sites and says that Mick West, a computer science guy, is a disinformation shill!]

In it you say that you learned about chemtrails from the internet. You also suggest that you were threatened with being thrown in the psych ward for asking about chemtrails, but here in this thread I see you say that it was for the overexposure. Why mislead?

If you have evidence from the inside- PRESENT IT. If you have proof I think the country needs to know so that the voters can put a stop to it.

Did you learn about chemtrails form the internet? Your post above with all the stuff about patents and Bill Gate's geo-engineering stuff makes you sound identical to all the other people who believe in this stuff. Do you have anything to present that would be considered evidence form the inside?

I don't mean to be rude, but I really want to get to the bottom of this.
I'm a pilot so I understand that contrails can your persist... your "factual" assertion that they cannot indicates a serious problem in your understanding of the atmosphere.

If you have insider evidence, we deserve to see it. Isn't that what your whole thing is about? Shutting this down? Then give us some evidence that we can.
 
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What is lacking thus far in the story of chemtrails is not patents, not movies, or not why the government is keeping silent; what is lacking is hard tangible proof, or at least more evidence that helps explain the picture. One such example would be an actual fuel sample obtained from a local airport. Perhaps a picture of these "on-off" switches people keep talking about...

There are two kinds of "on off switches".
The first is the throttle levers. They have direct control over how much exhaust moisture is being put into the atmosphere.
The other "on off switch" is the saturation level of the particular parcel of air the jet exhaust is being dumped into at that moment. :)
 
Officer Job description . . . She was a GS-12 . . . Which requires a BS degree or higher . . .she was most likely an officer . . .

Air Force Officer Job Descriptions & Qualifications


43EX - BIOENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER
http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/afoffjobs/bl43ex.htm

Specialty Shredouts:
A..................General. Possess a baccalaureate in engineering from an institution accredited by the Accreditation Board for Engineering and Technology (ABET) or, Bachelor of Science (BS) and a Master of Science (MS) or Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) in engineering from an ABET institution or, A BS degree in a science and pass the “Fundamentals of Engineering” is mandatory.

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Tinker AFB, OKC. OK


http://www.tinker.af.mil/library/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=9404
Tinker's largest organization is the Oklahoma City Air Logistics Complex. It is the largest of three depot repair complexs in the Air Force Materiel Command. It provides depot maintenance on the C/KC-135, B-1B, B-52 and E-3 aircraft, expanded phase maintenance on the Navy E-6 aircraft, and maintenance, repair and overhaul of F100, F101, F108, F110, F118, F119 and TF33 engines for the Air Force, Air Force Reserve, Air National Guard, Navy and foreign military sales. Additionally, the complex is responsible for the maintenance, repair and overhaul of a myriad of Air Force and Navy airborne accessory components, and the development and sustainment of a diverse portfolio of operational flight programs, test program sets, automatic test equipment, and industrial automation software.
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Enlisted Job description . . .


http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/shared/media/epubs/CFETP4B0X1.pdf
AFSC 4B0X1 BIOENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING
CFETP 4B0X1 Parts I and II 1 October 2009

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Officers do not have pay grades of GS-12. That is a civilian pay grade. If she was an officer her pay grade would start with an "O". There is also no way she became an O-12, because it does not exist. O-10 is the highest and I doubt she made to GENERAL in those few short years in the Air force.
 
Hi Ronald, do you think you can edit your post to provide quotes of her statements and sources for those points you dispute, just for clarity?
 
Officers do not have pay grades of GS-12. That is a civilian pay grade. If she was an officer her pay grade would start with an "O". There is also no way she became an O-12, because it does not exist. O-10 is the highest and I doubt she made to GENERAL in those few short years in the Air force.
I believe it has been established she was first an enlisted NCO in the Air Force and later became a GS employee after leaving the Air Force.
 
I am late to the party but I did not feel like scrolling for ages to see if this was posted. It is Kristen Meghan telling everyone that Metabunk and ContrailScience is a bunch of government shills. She only names those sites. She picked them out specifically.

 
It is Kristen Meghan telling everyone that Metabunk and ContrailScience is a bunch of government shills.

I think that Kristen Meghan's "15 minutes of fame" have timed out, at this point.

She is becoming increasingly irrelevant, as people examine her claims more closely.
 
She is a proud whistleblower in this video. Nothing at all to back anything up but her harrowing story of her strength and determination to fight for what is right in a world of government lies. How she has persevered through terrible situations of people trying to rip her children away from her and "demonizing" her etc etc....great story...no evidence of anything, no.
 
She is a proud whistleblower in this video. Nothing at all to back anything up but her harrowing story of her strength and determination to fight for what is right in a world of government lies. How she has persevered through terrible situations of people trying to rip her children away from her and "demonizing" her etc etc....great story...no evidence of anything, no.

Well, she may be attempting to win an Emmy......
 
She is a proud whistleblower in this video. Nothing at all to back anything up but her harrowing story of her strength and determination to fight for what is right in a world of government lies. How she has persevered through terrible situations of people trying to rip her children away from her and "demonizing" her etc etc....great story...no evidence of anything, no.
yea that video has been discussed in length. harrowing story? As a woman, I have to disagree with that assessment. (not that the military and young motherdom/'marriage' is all that easy on women, but ....harrowing? )
 
1) The authority argument is used to grab the attention of anyone researching this topic and take advantage of our indoctrinated education systems where we all pretty much learned early to defer to the opinions of authorities rather than to our inner authority when it comes to drawing conclusions for ourselves. It makes the person saying it (Mick) sound more credible on an unconscious level.

2) No one is respecting Kristen's request to stop the public discussion and to defer the conversation to email which suggests 'perhaps' that the debunkers here are more interested in attempting to make her look 'un-credible' publicly using 'tricks of the trade' rather than actually listening to what she has to say from her 'on-the-ground' perspective and experience.

3) The word 'believe' is used in association with 'chemtrails' which imposes the image to researchers ignorant of the topic to unconsciously see this possible phenomenon as something that is 'believed' rather than a possible reality. It draws the conclusion that they are not 'real' before allowing researchers to draw their own conclusions AFTER the cases are heard.

4) "Smoking gun" piece of evidence is quoted and yet the parameters of what would qualify as "smoking gun" evidence have not been defined. I'm sure on her last day with the AF they allowed her to make some copies of important documents on her way out, right? The military hasn't exactly been open regarding transparency and file sharing. What exactly constitutes as smoking gun evidence? These expectations need to be defined PRIOR to eliciting a response. Otherwise, it suggests an attempt to see if she will just come back with evidence you can easily categorize into 'hear-say' and 'anecdotal' decreasing the perception of her credibility to an average researcher who know may interpret you as the 'authority' to whom to listen and her as someone with a bunch of debunk-able ideas and no actual documents from her old AF computer.

Just sayin...;)

Like, I have to agree with you all points here.
 
I learned a long time ago people believe what they want to believe. There is nothing I can do to get you to believe chemtrails are real if, by now, with the information out there through the FOIA hasn't convinced you yet.

there is plenty you can do to get us to believe chemtrails are real- present actual evidence. it is that simple.

what you wrote about people believing what they want to believe- apply this to your own belief that "Contrails are from temperature variances at high altitudes that dissipate rapidly, where as chemtrails are stagnant and do not dissipate, they expand"

as this is easily falsifiable.
 
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The evidence is through the patents, the environmental workers who have observed, tested, and debate this at EPA and environmental symposiums all over the country. its not that they deny it, they deny its harmful.

evidence of patents is evidence of patents. as mick has stated several times and provided an amusing photo to demonstrate.

'environmental workers' or anyone DEBATING something is NOT evidence.
 
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