1. tryblinking

    tryblinking Member

  2. Chew

    Chew Senior Member

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  3. SR1419

    SR1419 Senior Member

    Here is another example of how fallible memory can be:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/15/n...er-attack-show-the-power-of-false-memory.html

     
  4. tadaaa

    tadaaa Active Member

  5. JRBids

    JRBids Senior Member

    " The feeling that you have been chosen by intelligent beings for research of contact, is also a feeling that you are special and different than others. "

    From Chew's link.

    sounds like chemtrail believers.
     
  6. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    Another classic example of how false memories can get created, and then seem entirely real.
     
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  7. Hama Neggs

    Hama Neggs Senior Member

    It's amazing how frequent the "I remember" phrase comes up, uttered by chemtrail believers.
     
  8. Chew

    Chew Senior Member

  9. BombDr

    BombDr Senior Member

  10. BombDr

    BombDr Senior Member

    According to Lt Col Dave Grossman, a former US Army Ranger and psychology professor at West Point, memory lapses and invented fragments are common when under stress. From his book "On Combat[ The psychology and physiology of deadly conflict in war and peace":

    This actually ties in with my experience, as I do not remember key events from Afghanistan, yet my friends do. Similarly I remember parts that they do not.

    This is significant, as CTs are often fixated on a single point, such as what Barry Jennings said about seeing dead bodies in WTC7, or 'people heard explosions', or 'many reports of shots from the grassy-knoll', and use this small human frailty as the cornerstone of their entire case.
     
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  11. JRBids

    JRBids Senior Member


    Well, that and I DON'T remember, LOL! As in "I don't remember planes making trails like that."
     
  12. Efftup

    Efftup Senior Member

    bu t often with the don;t remember stuff, it;s more that they just never paid attention to it. Nobody, when you were 14 years old came up to you and said "ALWAYS make very careful observations of EVERYTHING you do, and remember to take notes cos you will be tested on it in 30 years time"
    I was always interested in planes and the sky so I DID notice contrails.

    Interesting though that in 20 years time when the food conspiracy comes along and people say "i never used to eat food like that!" You will then just be able to dig up Facebook archives and prove them wrong.

    I DO have a very clear memory of my Auntie babysitting with her friend. (part of my memory says it was her black friend (unusual to see a black person in Salisbury back then) but the very distinct memory says her name was Sue.
    I'm sure discussing this with my aunt she doesn't remember a friend named Sue.
    My brother and I shouted "Maria!! Sue!!" and then when they came upstairs we pretended to be asleep. I really don't know HOW MANY times we did this but it was obviously a few.
    So did she forget having a friend named SUE, or did I implant a false memory of a friend?
     
  13. tadaaa

    tadaaa Active Member

    Yeah me too, I do remember looking up at planes making contrails, when growing up in the 70's

    I used to think it was a great way of working out the direction the planes were traveling in, it always seemed quite romantic to watch planes heading out over the Atlantic, to the Americas
     
  14. Chew

    Chew Senior Member

    I grew up on Guam. Aircraft only flew to or away from it, never high enough over it to generate contrails. I never saw contrails until we moved back to the States. They stuck out like a sore thumb.
     
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  15. LREKing

    LREKing New Member

    I grew up outside Phoenix in the early '60s and remember the contrails from Luke AFB overhead. My dad had been a fighter pilot in WW2 and it's likely we discussed them.

    Speaking of self-delusion, anyone not already familiar with the following site should take a look.

    http://youarenotsosmart.com/author/davidmcraney/

    I enjoy his podcasts during my walks.
     
  16. cloudspotter

    cloudspotter Senior Member

    We're planning our wedding for next year and talking about ways of decorating the hall we've booked.

    Having visited the hall earlier this year and looked at photos I would have sworn the ceiling that we are planning on attaching bunting, fair lights etc to was open with exposed trusses a bit like this:

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    This is what it actually looks like:

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    Not a truss in sight. Anywhere.


    It the outside we're more interested in anyway ;)

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  17. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    Congratulations!

    Do you think your memory was warped by looking at other photos? There are pages that show that location and others, and you might have looked at a similar image
    Whalton.
     
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  18. cloudspotter

    cloudspotter Senior Member

    Thanks :)

    Possibly, but we already knew that would be our venue if we ever did get around to getting married so didn't really look around at other places. Or it could be that's the sort of ceiling I expect in halls like that from past experience. Or a combination of those.

    Either way I was sure that the trusses were exposed and could actually picture it in my head with the rest of the interior pretty much spot on
     
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  19. Spectrar Ghost

    Spectrar Ghost Senior Member

    Congrats as well!

    Could be that the angled sides made it seem likely that the ceiling continued up at angles, and thus trusses would be reasonable?
     
  20. cloudspotter

    cloudspotter Senior Member

    Cheers :)

    Could be. It does give the ceiling that overall shape.