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  1. Agent K

    Agent K Member

    That's how it seems to be behaving in this video, which would be redundant. In the Gimbal video, the dot is almost at the top when the azimuth reads zero, but it reaches the top when the azimuth is about 6 degrees.

    Edit: On second thought, I guess it's at the top at 0 degrees. It's hard to read because it overlaps other symbology. So camera direction makes more sense.
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2018
  2. Justin Shaw

    Justin Shaw New Member

    For a 3D recreation, I think you want to use ground speed. That is TAS + Wind. We don't know the wind speed or direction, but we could figure it out based on the video @igoddard posted stabilized to the waves (conveniently at sea level!). Here is the data based on true airspeed (no wind taken into consideration).

    Here is the raw X, Y, Z data for the entire video.
    Code:
    t[sec],	x [m],	y [m],	z [m],xDot [m/s],yDot [m/s],zDot [m/s], roll [deg]
      0.00,	   19,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.03,	  0.00, 1.528
      0.10,	   38,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.05,	  0.00, 1.530
      0.20,	   57,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.08,	  0.00, 1.533
      0.30,	   76,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.10,	  0.00, 1.449
      0.40,	   95,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.13,	  0.00, 1.362
      0.50,	  114,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.15,	  0.00, 1.359
      0.60,	  133,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.17,	  0.00, 1.316
      0.70,	  152,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.19,	  0.00, 1.319
      0.80,	  171,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.22,	  0.00, 1.272
      0.90,	  190,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.24,	  0.00, 1.190
      1.00,	  209,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.26,	  0.00, 1.100
      1.10,	  228,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.27,	  0.00, 1.085
      1.20,	  247,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.29,	  0.00, 0.987
      1.30,	  266,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.31,	  0.00, 0.917
      1.40,	  285,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.32,	  0.00, 0.830
      1.50,	  304,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.33,	  0.00, 0.745
      1.60,	  323,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.35,	  0.00, 0.798
      1.70,	  342,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.36,	  0.00, 0.718
      1.80,	  361,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.37,	  0.00, 0.519
      1.90,	  380,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.38,	  0.00, 0.555
      2.00,	  399,	   -0,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.39,	  0.00, 0.460
      2.10,	  418,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.39,	  0.00, 0.408
      2.20,	  437,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.40,	  0.00, 0.405
      2.30,	  456,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.41,	  0.00, 0.351
      2.40,	  475,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.41,	  0.00, 0.279
      2.50,	  494,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.41,	  0.00, 0.160
      2.60,	  513,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.42,	  0.00, 0.159
      2.70,	  532,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.42,	  0.00, 0.036
      2.80,	  551,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.42,	  0.00, 0.014
      2.90,	  569,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.42,	  0.00, 0.001
      3.00,	  588,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.42,	  0.00, -0.014
      3.10,	  607,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.42,	  0.00, -0.057
      3.20,	  626,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.42,	  0.00, -0.047
      3.30,	  645,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.41,	  0.00, -0.118
      3.40,	  664,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.41,	  0.00, -0.132
      3.50,	  683,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.41,	  0.00, -0.133
      3.60,	  702,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.40,	  0.00, -0.252
      3.70,	  721,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.40,	  0.00, -0.259
      3.80,	  740,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.40,	  0.00, -0.250
      3.90,	  759,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.39,	  0.00, -0.306
      4.00,	  778,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.39,	  0.00, -0.290
      4.10,	  797,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.38,	  0.00, -0.281
      4.20,	  816,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.38,	  0.00, -0.291
      4.30,	  835,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.37,	  0.00, -0.313
      4.40,	  854,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.36,	  0.00, -0.330
      4.50,	  873,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.36,	  0.00, -0.318
      4.60,	  892,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.35,	  0.00, -0.324
      4.70,	  911,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.35,	  0.00, -0.329
      4.80,	  930,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.34,	  0.00, -0.329
      4.90,	  949,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.34,	  0.00, -0.330
      5.00,	  968,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.33,	  0.00, -0.336
      5.10,	  987,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.33,	  0.00, -0.333
      5.20,	 1006,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.32,	  0.00, -0.332
      5.30,	 1025,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.31,	  0.00, -0.333
      5.40,	 1044,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.31,	  0.00, -0.320
      5.50,	 1063,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.30,	  0.00, -0.217
      5.60,	 1082,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.30,	  0.00, -0.224
      5.70,	 1101,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.30,	  0.00, -0.225
      5.80,	 1120,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.29,	  0.00, -0.195
      5.90,	 1139,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.29,	  0.00, -0.140
      6.00,	 1158,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.29,	  0.00, -0.151
      6.10,	 1177,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.29,	  0.00, -0.142
      6.20,	 1196,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.28,	  0.00, -0.089
      6.30,	 1215,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.28,	  0.00, -0.029
      6.40,	 1234,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.28,	  0.00, -0.141
      6.50,	 1253,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.28,	  0.00, -0.053
      6.60,	 1272,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.28,	  0.00, -0.148
      6.70,	 1291,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.28,	  0.00, -0.151
      6.80,	 1310,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.28,	  0.00, -0.008
      6.90,	 1329,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.28,	  0.00, -0.011
      7.00,	 1348,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.28,	  0.00, -0.014
      7.10,	 1367,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.27,	  0.00, -0.064
      7.20,	 1386,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.27,	  0.00, -0.163
      7.30,	 1405,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.26,	  0.00, -0.383
      7.40,	 1424,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.25,	  0.00, -0.635
      7.50,	 1443,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.24,	  0.00, -0.943
      7.60,	 1462,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.22,	  0.00, -1.303
      7.70,	 1481,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.19,	  0.00, -1.616
      7.80,	 1500,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.16,	  0.00, -1.916
      7.90,	 1519,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.12,	  0.00, -2.195
      8.00,	 1538,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.07,	  0.00, -2.543
      8.10,	 1557,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	 -0.02,	  0.00, -2.883
      8.20,	 1576,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.03,	  0.00, -3.129
      8.30,	 1595,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.09,	  0.00, -3.446
      8.40,	 1614,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.15,	  0.00, -3.604
      8.50,	 1633,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.21,	  0.00, -3.736
      8.60,	 1652,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.28,	  0.00, -4.056
      8.70,	 1671,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.35,	  0.00, -4.125
      8.80,	 1689,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.43,	  0.00, -4.304
      8.90,	 1708,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.50,	  0.00, -4.358
      9.00,	 1727,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.58,	  0.00, -4.476
      9.10,	 1746,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.66,	  0.00, -4.586
      9.20,	 1765,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.74,	  0.00, -4.884
      9.30,	 1784,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.83,	  0.00, -4.883
      9.40,	 1803,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.91,	  0.00, -4.875
      9.50,	 1822,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.99,	  0.00, -4.780
      9.60,	 1841,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.07,	  0.00, -4.711
      9.70,	 1860,	   -2,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.15,	  0.00, -4.555
      9.80,	 1879,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.23,	  0.00, -4.464
      9.90,	 1898,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.30,	  0.00, -4.303
     10.00,	 1917,	   -1,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.37,	  0.00, -4.182
     10.10,	 1936,	   -1,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.44,	  0.00, -3.929
     10.20,	 1955,	   -1,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.50,	  0.00, -3.776
     10.30,	 1974,	   -1,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.56,	  0.00, -3.586
     10.40,	 1993,	   -1,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.62,	  0.00, -3.436
     10.50,	 2012,	   -0,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.68,	  0.00, -3.188
     10.60,	 2031,	   -0,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.73,	  0.00, -3.003
     10.70,	 2050,	   -0,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.78,	  0.00, -2.699
     10.80,	 2069,		0,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.82,	  0.00, -2.485
     10.90,	 2088,		0,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.86,	  0.00, -2.185
     11.00,	 2107,		1,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.89,	  0.00, -1.898
     11.10,	 2126,		1,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.92,	  0.00, -1.750
     11.20,	 2145,		1,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.94,	  0.00, -1.515
     11.30,	 2164,		1,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.97,	  0.00, -1.237
     11.40,	 2183,		1,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.98,	  0.00, -1.018
     11.50,	 2202,		1,	 7620,	189.82,	  2.00,	  0.00, -0.824
     11.60,	 2221,		2,	 7620,	189.82,	  2.00,	  0.00, -0.477
     11.70,	 2240,		2,	 7620,	189.82,	  2.01,	  0.00, -0.330
     11.80,	 2259,		2,	 7620,	189.82,	  2.01,	  0.00, -0.069
     11.90,	 2278,		2,	 7620,	189.82,	  2.01,	  0.00, 0.110
     12.00,	 2297,		2,	 7620,	189.82,	  2.01,	  0.00, 0.246
     12.10,	 2316,		3,	 7620,	189.82,	  2.00,	  0.00, 0.411
     12.20,	 2335,		3,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.99,	  0.00, 0.594
     12.30,	 2354,		3,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.98,	  0.00, 0.686
     12.40,	 2373,		3,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.96,	  0.00, 0.899
     12.50,	 2392,		3,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.94,	  0.00, 0.952
     12.60,	 2411,		4,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.92,	  0.00, 1.193
     12.70,	 2430,		4,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.90,	  0.00, 1.391
     12.80,	 2449,		4,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.88,	  0.00, 1.490
     12.90,	 2468,		4,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.85,	  0.00, 1.679
     13.00,	 2487,		4,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.82,	  0.00, 1.716
     13.10,	 2506,		5,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.79,	  0.00, 1.787
     13.20,	 2525,		5,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.75,	  0.00, 1.853
     13.30,	 2544,		5,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.72,	  0.00, 1.964
     13.40,	 2563,		5,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.68,	  0.00, 2.126
     13.50,	 2582,		5,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.65,	  0.00, 2.165
     13.60,	 2601,		5,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.61,	  0.00, 2.291
     13.70,	 2620,		6,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.57,	  0.00, 2.307
     13.80,	 2639,		6,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.53,	  0.00, 2.348
     13.90,	 2658,		6,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.49,	  0.00, 2.347
     14.00,	 2677,		6,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.45,	  0.00, 2.335
     14.10,	 2696,		6,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.41,	  0.00, 2.348
     14.20,	 2715,		6,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.37,	  0.00, 2.353
     14.30,	 2734,		6,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.33,	  0.00, 2.337
     14.40,	 2752,		7,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.29,	  0.00, 2.358
     14.50,	 2771,		7,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.25,	  0.00, 2.354
     14.60,	 2790,		7,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.21,	  0.00, 2.352
     14.70,	 2809,		7,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.17,	  0.00, 2.352
     14.80,	 2828,		7,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.13,	  0.00, 2.293
     14.90,	 2847,		7,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.09,	  0.00, 2.216
     15.00,	 2866,		7,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.05,	  0.00, 2.118
     15.10,	 2885,		7,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.02,	  0.00, 2.033
     15.20,	 2904,		7,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.98,	  0.00, 2.027
     15.30,	 2923,		8,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.95,	  0.00, 1.916
     15.40,	 2942,		8,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.92,	  0.00, 1.899
     15.50,	 2961,		8,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.89,	  0.00, 1.860
     15.60,	 2980,		8,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.86,	  0.00, 1.787
     15.70,	 2999,		8,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.83,	  0.00, 1.612
     15.80,	 3018,		8,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.81,	  0.00, 1.312
     15.90,	 3037,		8,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.79,	  0.00, 1.135
     16.00,	 3056,		8,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.77,	  0.00, 0.848
     16.10,	 3075,		8,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.76,	  0.00, 0.597
     16.20,	 3094,		8,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.76,	  0.00, 0.315
     16.30,	 3113,		8,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.76,	  0.00, -0.007
     16.40,	 3132,		8,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.76,	  0.00, -0.278
     16.50,	 3151,		9,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.77,	  0.00, -0.672
     16.60,	 3170,		9,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.80,	  0.00, -1.287
     16.70,	 3189,		9,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.83,	  0.00, -1.759
     16.80,	 3208,		9,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.87,	  0.00, -2.370
     16.90,	 3227,		9,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.92,	  0.00, -3.046
     17.00,	 3246,		9,	 7620,	189.83,	  0.98,	  0.00, -3.805
     17.10,	 3265,		9,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.06,	  0.00, -4.529
     17.20,	 3284,		9,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.15,	  0.00, -5.216
     17.30,	 3303,		9,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.25,	  0.00, -5.966
     17.40,	 3322,		9,	 7620,	189.83,	  1.37,	  0.00, -6.590
     17.50,	 3341,	   10,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.49,	  0.00, -7.208
     17.60,	 3360,	   10,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.63,	  0.00, -7.885
     17.70,	 3379,	   10,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.77,	  0.00, -8.480
     17.80,	 3398,	   10,	 7620,	189.82,	  1.93,	  0.00, -9.023
     17.90,	 3417,	   10,	 7620,	189.82,	  2.09,	  0.00, -9.544
     18.00,	 3436,	   11,	 7620,	189.82,	  2.26,	  0.00, -9.976
     18.10,	 3455,	   11,	 7620,	189.82,	  2.45,	  0.00, -10.516
     18.20,	 3474,	   11,	 7620,	189.81,	  2.63,	  0.00, -10.881
     18.30,	 3493,	   11,	 7620,	189.81,	  2.83,	  0.00, -11.197
     18.40,	 3512,	   12,	 7620,	189.81,	  3.03,	  0.00, -11.457
     18.50,	 3531,	   12,	 7620,	189.80,	  3.23,	  0.00, -11.676
     18.60,	 3550,	   12,	 7620,	189.80,	  3.44,	  0.00, -11.879
     18.70,	 3569,	   13,	 7620,	189.80,	  3.64,	  0.00, -12.025
     18.80,	 3588,	   13,	 7620,	189.79,	  3.85,	  0.00, -12.083
     18.90,	 3607,	   13,	 7620,	189.79,	  4.07,	  0.00, -12.219
     19.00,	 3626,	   14,	 7620,	189.78,	  4.28,	  0.00, -12.343
     19.10,	 3645,	   14,	 7620,	189.78,	  4.50,	  0.00, -12.442
     19.20,	 3664,	   15,	 7620,	189.77,	  4.72,	  0.00, -12.536
     19.30,	 3683,	   15,	 7620,	189.77,	  4.94,	  0.00, -12.665
     19.40,	 3702,	   16,	 7620,	189.76,	  5.16,	  0.00, -12.731
     19.50,	 3721,	   16,	 7620,	189.76,	  5.38,	  0.00, -12.822
     19.60,	 3740,	   17,	 7620,	189.75,	  5.60,	  0.00, -12.836
     19.70,	 3759,	   18,	 7620,	189.74,	  5.83,	  0.00, -12.946
     19.80,	 3777,	   18,	 7620,	189.74,	  6.05,	  0.00, -13.040
     19.90,	 3796,	   19,	 7620,	189.73,	  6.28,	  0.00, -13.140
     20.00,	 3815,	   19,	 7620,	189.72,	  6.51,	  0.00, -13.233
     20.10,	 3834,	   20,	 7620,	189.71,	  6.75,	  0.00, -13.453
     20.20,	 3853,	   21,	 7620,	189.71,	  6.98,	  0.00, -13.487
     20.30,	 3872,	   22,	 7620,	189.70,	  7.22,	  0.00, -13.571
     20.40,	 3891,	   22,	 7620,	189.69,	  7.46,	  0.00, -13.587
     20.50,	 3910,	   23,	 7620,	189.68,	  7.69,	  0.00, -13.580
     20.60,	 3929,	   24,	 7620,	189.67,	  7.93,	  0.00, -13.498
     20.70,	 3948,	   25,	 7620,	189.66,	  8.16,	  0.00, -13.381
     20.80,	 3967,	   25,	 7620,	189.65,	  8.39,	  0.00, -13.201
     20.90,	 3986,	   26,	 7620,	189.64,	  8.62,	  0.00, -13.094
     21.00,	 4005,	   27,	 7620,	189.63,	  8.84,	  0.00, -12.889
     21.10,	 4024,	   28,	 7620,	189.62,	  9.06,	  0.00, -12.722
     21.20,	 4043,	   29,	 7620,	189.61,	  9.28,	  0.00, -12.571
     21.30,	 4062,	   30,	 7620,	189.60,	  9.50,	  0.00, -12.475
     21.40,	 4081,	   31,	 7620,	189.59,	  9.71,	  0.00, -12.340
     21.50,	 4100,	   32,	 7620,	189.58,	  9.92,	  0.00, -12.264
     21.60,	 4119,	   33,	 7620,	189.56,	 10.14,	  0.00, -12.200
     21.70,	 4138,	   34,	 7620,	189.55,	 10.35,	  0.00, -12.100
     21.80,	 4157,	   35,	 7620,	189.54,	 10.56,	  0.00, -12.098
     21.90,	 4176,	   36,	 7620,	189.53,	 10.76,	  0.00, -11.988
     22.00,	 4195,	   37,	 7620,	189.52,	 10.97,	  0.00, -11.981
     22.10,	 4214,	   38,	 7620,	189.51,	 11.18,	  0.00, -11.976
     22.20,	 4233,	   40,	 7620,	189.49,	 11.39,	  0.00, -12.010
     22.30,	 4252,	   41,	 7620,	189.48,	 11.60,	  0.00, -12.089
     22.40,	 4270,	   42,	 7620,	189.47,	 11.81,	  0.00, -12.086
     22.50,	 4289,	   43,	 7620,	189.46,	 12.02,	  0.00, -12.068
     22.60,	 4308,	   44,	 7620,	189.44,	 12.22,	  0.00, -12.062
     22.70,	 4327,	   46,	 7620,	189.43,	 12.44,	  0.00, -12.184
     22.80,	 4346,	   47,	 7620,	189.42,	 12.65,	  0.00, -12.182
     22.90,	 4365,	   48,	 7620,	189.40,	 12.86,	  0.00, -12.156
     23.00,	 4384,	   49,	 7620,	189.39,	 13.07,	  0.00, -12.288
     23.10,	 4403,	   51,	 7620,	189.37,	 13.28,	  0.00, -12.268
     23.20,	 4422,	   52,	 7620,	189.36,	 13.50,	  0.00, -12.322
     23.30,	 4441,	   53,	 7620,	189.34,	 13.71,	  0.00, -12.353
     23.40,	 4460,	   55,	 7620,	189.33,	 13.92,	  0.00, -12.372
     23.50,	 4479,	   56,	 7620,	189.31,	 14.14,	  0.00, -12.388
     23.60,	 4498,	   58,	 7620,	189.29,	 14.36,	  0.00, -12.460
     23.70,	 4517,	   59,	 7620,	189.28,	 14.57,	  0.00, -12.452
     23.80,	 4536,	   61,	 7620,	189.26,	 14.79,	  0.00, -12.459
     23.90,	 4554,	   62,	 7620,	189.24,	 15.00,	  0.00, -12.551
     24.00,	 4573,	   64,	 7620,	189.23,	 15.22,	  0.00, -12.569
     24.10,	 4592,	   65,	 7620,	189.21,	 15.44,	  0.00, -12.559
     24.20,	 4611,	   67,	 7620,	189.19,	 15.66,	  0.00, -12.568
     24.30,	 4630,	   68,	 7620,	189.17,	 15.88,	  0.00, -12.648
     24.40,	 4649,	   70,	 7620,	189.16,	 16.10,	  0.00, -12.697
     24.50,	 4668,	   72,	 7620,	189.14,	 16.32,	  0.00, -12.683
     24.60,	 4687,	   73,	 7620,	189.12,	 16.54,	  0.00, -12.673
     24.70,	 4706,	   75,	 7620,	189.10,	 16.76,	  0.00, -12.663
     24.80,	 4725,	   77,	 7620,	189.08,	 16.98,	  0.00, -12.701
     24.90,	 4744,	   78,	 7620,	189.06,	 17.20,	  0.00, -12.754
     25.00,	 4763,	   80,	 7620,	189.04,	 17.42,	  0.00, -12.747
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     25.30,	 4819,	   85,	 7620,	188.98,	 18.08,	  0.00, -12.875
     25.40,	 4838,	   87,	 7620,	188.96,	 18.31,	  0.00, -12.944
     25.50,	 4857,	   89,	 7620,	188.93,	 18.53,	  0.00, -12.927
     25.60,	 4876,	   91,	 7620,	188.91,	 18.76,	  0.00, -12.948
     25.70,	 4895,	   93,	 7620,	188.89,	 18.98,	  0.00, -13.047
     25.80,	 4914,	   95,	 7620,	188.87,	 19.21,	  0.00, -13.051
     25.90,	 4933,	   97,	 7620,	188.84,	 19.43,	  0.00, -13.065
     26.00,	 4951,	   99,	 7620,	188.82,	 19.66,	  0.00, -13.053
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     26.20,	 4989,	  103,	 7620,	188.77,	 20.11,	  0.00, -13.036
     26.30,	 5008,	  105,	 7620,	188.75,	 20.34,	  0.00, -13.043
     26.40,	 5027,	  107,	 7620,	188.72,	 20.56,	  0.00, -13.023
     26.50,	 5046,	  109,	 7620,	188.70,	 20.79,	  0.00, -12.958
     26.60,	 5065,	  111,	 7620,	188.68,	 21.01,	  0.00, -12.922
     26.70,	 5084,	  113,	 7620,	188.65,	 21.23,	  0.00, -12.918
     26.80,	 5102,	  115,	 7620,	188.63,	 21.46,	  0.00, -12.915
     26.90,	 5121,	  117,	 7620,	188.60,	 21.68,	  0.00, -12.909
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     27.20,	 5178,	  124,	 7620,	188.52,	 22.35,	  0.00, -12.922
     27.30,	 5197,	  126,	 7620,	188.50,	 22.57,	  0.00, -12.932
     27.40,	 5216,	  129,	 7620,	188.47,	 22.80,	  0.00, -12.925
     27.50,	 5234,	  131,	 7620,	188.44,	 23.02,	  0.00, -12.924
     27.60,	 5253,	  133,	 7620,	188.41,	 23.24,	  0.00, -12.938
     27.70,	 5272,	  136,	 7620,	188.39,	 23.47,	  0.00, -12.912
     27.80,	 5291,	  138,	 7620,	188.36,	 23.69,	  0.00, -12.916
     27.90,	 5310,	  140,	 7620,	188.33,	 23.91,	  0.00, -12.908
     28.00,	 5329,	  143,	 7620,	188.30,	 24.14,	  0.00, -13.035
     28.10,	 5347,	  145,	 7620,	188.27,	 24.36,	  0.00, -13.043
     28.20,	 5366,	  148,	 7620,	188.24,	 24.59,	  0.00, -13.043
     28.30,	 5385,	  150,	 7620,	188.22,	 24.81,	  0.00, -13.047
     28.40,	 5404,	  153,	 7620,	188.19,	 25.04,	  0.00, -13.114
     28.50,	 5423,	  155,	 7620,	188.16,	 25.27,	  0.00, -13.133
     28.60,	 5441,	  158,	 7620,	188.12,	 25.49,	  0.00, -13.128
     28.70,	 5460,	  160,	 7620,	188.09,	 25.72,	  0.00, -13.177
     28.80,	 5479,	  163,	 7620,	188.06,	 25.95,	  0.00, -13.215
     28.90,	 5498,	  165,	 7620,	188.03,	 26.18,	  0.00, -13.207
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     29.10,	 5536,	  171,	 7620,	187.97,	 26.64,	  0.00, -13.304
     29.20,	 5554,	  173,	 7620,	187.93,	 26.87,	  0.00, -13.343
     29.30,	 5573,	  176,	 7620,	187.90,	 27.10,	  0.00, -13.321
     29.40,	 5592,	  179,	 7620,	187.87,	 27.33,	  0.00, -13.339
     29.50,	 5611,	  182,	 7620,	187.84,	 27.56,	  0.00, -13.347
     29.60,	 5629,	  184,	 7620,	187.80,	 27.79,	  0.00, -13.425
     29.70,	 5648,	  187,	 7620,	187.77,	 28.02,	  0.00, -13.417
     29.80,	 5667,	  190,	 7620,	187.73,	 28.25,	  0.00, -13.426
     29.90,	 5686,	  193,	 7620,	187.70,	 28.48,	  0.00, -13.426
     30.00,	 5705,	  196,	 7620,	187.66,	 28.71,	  0.00, -13.430
     30.10,	 5723,	  199,	 7620,	187.63,	 28.94,	  0.00, -13.324
     30.20,	 5742,	  202,	 7620,	187.59,	 29.17,	  0.00, -13.351
     30.30,	 5761,	  205,	 7620,	187.56,	 29.40,	  0.00, -13.314
     30.40,	 5780,	  207,	 7620,	187.52,	 29.63,	  0.00, -13.331
     30.50,	 5798,	  210,	 7620,	187.48,	 29.86,	  0.00, -13.328
     30.60,	 5817,	  213,	 7620,	187.45,	 30.09,	  0.00, -13.329
     30.70,	 5836,	  217,	 7620,	187.41,	 30.32,	  0.00, -13.342
     30.80,	 5855,	  220,	 7620,	187.37,	 30.55,	  0.00, -13.338
     30.90,	 5873,	  223,	 7620,	187.34,	 30.78,	  0.00, -13.333
     31.00,	 5892,	  226,	 7620,	187.30,	 31.01,	  0.00, -13.324
     31.10,	 5911,	  229,	 7620,	187.26,	 31.23,	  0.00, -13.264
     31.20,	 5929,	  232,	 7620,	187.22,	 31.46,	  0.00, -13.236
     31.30,	 5948,	  235,	 7620,	187.18,	 31.69,	  0.00, -13.233
     31.40,	 5967,	  238,	 7620,	187.15,	 31.92,	  0.00, -13.229
     31.50,	 5986,	  242,	 7620,	187.11,	 32.14,	  0.00, -13.234
     31.60,	 6004,	  245,	 7620,	187.07,	 32.37,	  0.00, -13.242
     31.70,	 6023,	  248,	 7620,	187.03,	 32.60,	  0.00, -13.253
     31.80,	 6042,	  251,	 7620,	186.99,	 32.83,	  0.00, -13.258
     31.90,	 6060,	  255,	 7620,	186.95,	 33.05,	  0.00, -13.321
     32.00,	 6079,	  258,	 7620,	186.91,	 33.28,	  0.00, -13.322
     32.10,	 6098,	  261,	 7620,	186.87,	 33.51,	  0.00, -13.338
     32.20,	 6116,	  265,	 7620,	186.83,	 33.74,	  0.00, -13.333
     32.30,	 6135,	  268,	 7620,	186.79,	 33.97,	  0.00, -13.337
     32.40,	 6154,	  272,	 7620,	186.74,	 34.20,	  0.00, -13.427
     32.50,	 6172,	  275,	 7620,	186.70,	 34.43,	  0.00, -13.422
     32.60,	 6191,	  278,	 7620,	186.66,	 34.66,	  0.00, -13.437
     32.70,	 6210,	  282,	 7620,	186.62,	 34.89,	  0.00, -13.439
     32.80,	 6228,	  285,	 7620,	186.57,	 35.12,	  0.00, -13.436
     32.90,	 6247,	  289,	 7620,	186.53,	 35.35,	  0.00, -13.427
     33.00,	 6266,	  293,	 7620,	186.49,	 35.58,	  0.00, -13.429
     33.10,	 6284,	  296,	 7620,	186.44,	 35.81,	  0.00, -13.515
     33.20,	 6303,	  300,	 7620,	186.40,	 36.04,	  0.00, -13.517
     33.30,	 6322,	  303,	 7620,	186.35,	 36.28,	  0.00, -13.667
     33.40,	 6340,	  307,	 7620,	186.31,	 36.52,	  0.00, -14.088
     33.50,	 6359,	  311,	 7620,	186.26,	 36.77,	  0.00, -14.565
     33.60,	 6378,	  314,	 7620,	186.21,	 37.03,	  0.00, -15.149
     33.70,	 6396,	  318,	 7620,	186.15,	 37.30,	  0.00, -15.790
     33.80,	 6415,	  322,	 7620,	186.10,	 37.58,	  0.00, -16.453
     33.90,	 6433,	  326,	 7620,	186.03,	 37.88,	  0.00, -17.288
    
     
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  3. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    Be aware there is often a huge variation in wind speed and direction with altitude. Escpecially compared to ground level winds.

    Here's an actual, if somewhat contrived, example that shows you how big the range can be:
    Metabunk 2018-03-17 08-31-02.

    At sea level the speed are low and variable. In the spot indicated in the North Atlantic at ground level they are 10 km/h from 100° (East). At 500 hPa (around 18,000 feet) the wind is 124 km/h at 225°

    So that's around 70 knots of error if you were to take the ground wind speed for the mid-altitudes wind speeds.

    And we know this is almost certainly just a few minutes before the GIMAL video in which they say:
    Metabunk 2018-03-17 08-38-45.

    So there's a VAST potential for error in making assumptions about the wind.
     
  4. Justin Shaw

    Justin Shaw New Member

    Agreed @Mick West . What I meant was that we use the waves as a fixed reference and use the az/el rates to compute ground speed. I was not suggesting that we assume ground wind speed is the same as altitude wind speed.
     
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  5. Getoffthisplanet

    Getoffthisplanet New Member

    Oh, wow. Thanks. I was sort of wondering last night if that was possible.

    As soon as I figure out the scripting syntax to get this data into 3ds Max, this would be preferable to using your "blue line trajectory" as a motion path and manually keying in altitude across all 1000+ frames.
     
  6. Tom Mellett

    Tom Mellett New Member

    Thank you so much for this analysis. I brought it to Garry Nolan’s attention of the TTSA FB page and he has become convinced that you are right. Here is our exchange:
     
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  7. Simeon Hein

    Simeon Hein New Member

    Absent the fighter pilot's testimony, is there any evidence from the video alone that the "object" isn't a shadow on the ocean surface from a plane in the area. Would this explain why it's giving off no heat?
     
  8. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    Here's the track of the camera angles dot. The red point indicate where it started to track smoothly.
    Metabunk 2018-03-17 09-36-39.

    Here's a graph of angle and radius (radius = distance from screen center)
    Metabunk 2018-03-17 10-35-48.

    A "saccade" is a rapid movement of the camera - when it moves so fast it blurs out the background. There are three, which are visible in the graph.

    Of note here is that before the tracking actually starts (at "Acquire") the angle is still moving at a constant rate - this is because it is "ground stabilized", which means it attempts to point at a fixed region of the ground based on the angles of the camera and the altitude. This appears to result in the slight drift observed at the start, however the camera is still tracking relatively fast to compensate for the motion on the jet.

    Update spreadsheet attached, dot tracking on second page.

    EDIT: maybe the drift is because the system is using TAS and not ground speed?
     

    Attached Files:

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  9. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    Ground stabilization described here:
    https://forums.vrsimulations.com/support/index.php/A/G_Advanced_Targeting_FLIR_(ATFLIR)
    The "snowplow" pointing would result in a constant blur of the ocean surface, too fast to be useful at this FOV and speed.
     
  10. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    It's not a shadow as: A) it's detected by radar. B) shadow would not effect emitted IR from water. C) it's moving independently of the plane.
     
  11. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    Note in my graph above, the "dot angle" starts matching the displayed camera angle (35°) but then varies, at the end it's 67° vs. the displayed 58°. So it's not exactly the same thing. Perhaps the difference relates to the bank angle? At the start the jet is pretty level, and at the end it's banked 20 degrees. So maybe the displayed angle (58°) is relative to the plane of the jet, and the other is relative to the horizontal plane?
     
  12. Robert Kellogg

    Robert Kellogg New Member

    I posted papers on Black body radiation. It is back on page 2 or 3. I can't remember post number.
     
  13. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    The "radius" angle is related to the aircraft bank angle. If I overlay the bank angle on the above graph:

    Metabunk 2018-03-17 14-20-27.

    We can see the where the bank angle is slowly decreasing towards the end, the indicator angle is decreasing - presumably because the object is getting closer.

    One could subtract the two, with care. Exercise for the reader! :)
     
  14. Getoffthisplanet

    Getoffthisplanet New Member

    Would it be too much effort for you to isolate just the X,Y,Z data, something like this: 19,-0,7620?

    Otherwise, no big deal. I've just got some copy/paste'ing to do.

    Also, your data is every 10th of a second? Is it possible to calculate X,Y,Z for each of the 1029 frames and in feet?
     
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  15. Simeon Hein

    Simeon Hein New Member

    OK, thanks. That makes sense.
     
  16. Justin Shaw

    Justin Shaw New Member

    As you requested:

    Code:
    x [m], y [m], z [m]
    	  6.33,	  -0.00,	7620.00
    	 12.66,	  -0.00,	7620.00
    	 18.98,	  -0.00,	7620.00
    	 25.31,	  -0.00,	7620.00
    	 31.64,	  -0.00,	7620.00
    	 37.97,	  -0.01,	7620.00
    	 44.29,	  -0.01,	7620.00
    	 50.62,	  -0.01,	7620.00
    	 56.95,	  -0.01,	7620.00
    	 63.28,	  -0.02,	7620.00
    	 69.61,	  -0.02,	7620.00
    	 75.93,	  -0.02,	7620.00
    	 82.26,	  -0.03,	7620.00
    	 88.59,	  -0.03,	7620.00
    	 94.92,	  -0.03,	7620.00
    	101.25,	  -0.04,	7620.00
    	107.57,	  -0.04,	7620.00
    	113.90,	  -0.05,	7620.00
    	120.23,	  -0.05,	7620.00
    	126.56,	  -0.06,	7620.00
    	132.88,	  -0.06,	7620.00
    	139.21,	  -0.07,	7620.00
    	145.54,	  -0.08,	7620.00
    	151.87,	  -0.08,	7620.00
    	158.20,	  -0.09,	7620.00
    	164.52,	  -0.10,	7620.00
    	170.85,	  -0.10,	7620.00
    	177.18,	  -0.11,	7620.00
    	183.51,	  -0.12,	7620.00
    	189.84,	  -0.13,	7620.00
    	196.16,	  -0.14,	7620.00
    	202.49,	  -0.14,	7620.00
    	208.82,	  -0.15,	7620.00
    	215.15,	  -0.16,	7620.00
    	221.47,	  -0.17,	7620.00
    	227.80,	  -0.18,	7620.00
    	234.13,	  -0.19,	7620.00
    	240.46,	  -0.20,	7620.00
    	246.79,	  -0.21,	7620.00
    	253.11,	  -0.22,	7620.00
    	259.44,	  -0.23,	7620.00
    	265.77,	  -0.24,	7620.00
    	272.10,	  -0.25,	7620.00
    	278.43,	  -0.26,	7620.00
    	284.75,	  -0.27,	7620.00
    	291.08,	  -0.28,	7620.00
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  17. Getoffthisplanet

    Getoffthisplanet New Member

    Perfect.

    I thought I might run into trouble using meters, but maybe not.

    Again, thank you.
     
  18. Agent K

    Agent K Member

    Is it the LOS Cue?
    It sure does not behave that way in the Gimbal video. The dot moves up even though the elevation angle doesn't change.
     
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  19. Kaen

    Kaen New Member

    I have the feeling that the angles in the ATFLIR display are defined with respect to a reference plane that stays horizontal independent of the roll angle of the jet, while the LOS Cue does take the roll angle into account, i.e., it is a LOS Cue as seen from the cockpit.

    Reasons for this feeling: The height of the object stays constant if you assume a reference plane that stays horizontal independent of the roll angle of the jet, and the horizontal angle in the display does not seem to shift much when the plane starts banking.
    The LOS Cue, however, does seem to respond to a banking manoeuvre.
    [​IMG]
     
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  20. Justin Shaw

    Justin Shaw New Member

    I concur. I used true horizontal in my calculations after observing the same.
     
  21. jarlrmai

    jarlrmai New Member

    To be honest the focus thing is a red herring, the height of the plane the angle of the ATFLIR and the radar range are all incompatible with the object being just above the surface. This is simple trigonometry and requires no deep understanding of optics.
     
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  22. Simeon Hein

    Simeon Hein New Member

    Can you explain your calculations a little further? What's your estimate of the height of the object?
     
  23. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    The basic math is in the first post.
     
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  24. Tom Mellett

    Tom Mellett New Member

    Hello Simeon,

    Here’s a 2-D graph showing the simple trigonometry used to determine the altitude of the object.
    AB622F7D-087A-4E39-9D0A-1BDEE14D8933.
     
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  25. Tom Mellett

    Tom Mellett New Member

    Yes, I totally agree with you, but there are definite reasons beyond the scope of this thread why Garry Nolan was defending the calculations of Bruce Maccabee which mandate the object had to be flying at a speed of 360 knots only 100 ft. above the surface of the ocean. (It involves tracing the “provenance” of TTSA which goes through AATIP directly back to Bob Bigelow and his NIDS project for which Bruce Maccabee wrote an article in 1996 about the “impossible” high-speed maneuvers of UFOs.)
    https://web.archive.org/web/20070210181457/http://www.nidsci.org/articles/maccabee/acceleration.html
    Now read the TTSA page announcing the release of this video.
    https://coi.tothestarsacademy.com/2015-go-fast-footage/
    Garry’s last hope to salvage the TTSA narrative about this object’s behavior was to seize on and cling to the “focal plane” issue, but to Garry’s credit, he is enough of a good scientist to be convinced by the “depth of field” consideration and realize now that the object could be at 13,000 feet and still be in acceptable focus.

    I have yet to hear back from him, but I’m sure he is at least contemplating the necessity of advising TTSA that they once again must make a public admission of over-hyping their claims from strong confirmation bias that this object is a bona fide UFO under conscious control of a superior technological intelligence and not a supremely mundane object like a migratory bird or a weather balloon.

    How best to sum up TTSA and their public image? I’ve grown fond of saying: Tom DeLonge is the Donald Trump of Disclosure.
     
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  26. Simeon Hein

    Simeon Hein New Member

    Thanks guys for explaining the math again: that graph is extremely helpful Tom. You've really convinced me that it's a relatively slow-moving object of some kind miles up from the water.
     
  27. Kaen

    Kaen New Member

    Hi Tom, can you provide a link to Bruce's calculations? Or copy-paste them here?

    Thanks!
     
  28. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    Here's a striking illustration of the variation in wind speed and direction from the surface up
    Metabunk 2018-03-19 13-19-07.
    Metabunk 2018-03-19 13-23-39.
    Metabunk 2018-03-19 13-20-00.
    Metabunk 2018-03-19 13-20-18.

    All four at at the same position, just of the coast of San Francisco, California.

    At the surface, it's 15 km/h from the east (90°)
    at 700mb (about 10,000 feet) it's 15 km/h from the south (185°)
    At 500mb (about 18,000 feet) it's 70 km/h from the west (260°)
    at 250mb (34,000 feet) it's 165 km/h from the west (270°).
     
  29. Tom Mellett

    Tom Mellett New Member

    OK, I finally tracked down the Maccabee calculations, actually just a revision of his original calculations which he sent to someone on the TTSA FB group who then relayed that text to me.

     
  30. Tom Mellett

    Tom Mellett New Member

    A new article out by Billy Cox at De Void on the underwhelming rollouts of TTSA. But he really needs to be informed by the Metabunk crew here that TTSA is doing more than dragging their feet; they are making gross and embarrassing errors in analyzing the behavior of the object. He links to a Popular Mechanics article about the 3rd video but they make no calculations of the object speed or altitude!

    http://devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/15641/ttsa-needs-new-game-plan

     
  31. Kaen

    Kaen New Member

    Thanks! I think a big chunk of the 330 knots may be due to the speed of the jet combined with the parallax effect. The ATFLIR is 'locked' to a piece of the ocean while the jet speed is 250 knots. An object halfway the jet and the ocean would cross the small FOV pretty fast, even if it was stationary.
     
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  32. jarlrmai

    jarlrmai New Member

    This is why getting the trigonometry height calculation out there as a key part of debate, any speed calcs based on a low height are incorrect as the height cannot be low and the math to work out the height is based entirely on information in the FLIR overlay (no assumptions reasonable or otherwise) and simple trigonometry which is taught in high school. making an assumption that the object is just above the ocean leads to flaws.

    That statement is interesting as it reveals what they believe the FOV to be.
     
  33. Tom Mellett

    Tom Mellett New Member

    Thank you, @Kaen and @jarlrmai . Would you say then that BM’s speed calculations are correct, given his assumption that the object was so close to the ocean surface that parallax was not taken into account?

    Then what would BM have calculated as the speed of the object IF he had used the correct parallax angle from an object at 13,000 ft altitude? As opposed to 100 ft. Altitude?

    A better way of saying it, is what Parallax Angle did BM use and what Parallax angle did MB (Metabunk) use?

    I’d like to be able to present the results to Garry Nolan and the TTSA FB group in as simple and concise a way as possible, and this seems to be another analysis that would use simple trig.

    Could someone put together a graphic that would utilize “Parallax Scrolling” for both the BM and MB calculations to show what’s going on and thus vividly illustrate the discrepancy?

    And, assuming BM’s calculations are correct, apart from the parallax issue, I’d like to see this result at the end

    Therefore BM’s calculations of the object speed given his parallax angle is 380 kn
    while MB’s calculation with their parallax angle gives _____ kn.
     
  34. Kaen

    Kaen New Member

    upload_2018-3-20_21-57-3.

    No trigonometry needed, just ratios.

    Bruce did use the right object range, but forgot to compensate for the virtual speed that the object has due to the parallax effect.

    The picture shows how the parallax effect causes a stationary object at altitude h1 to have a virtual speed as sea level of h1 x Vjet/h2. Here, Vjet is the jet’s true (ground) speed and the jet is at altitude h1+h2.

    Bruce did not use this speed, but calculated an equivalent speed at the object’s altitude h1. The parallax effect will result in a (virtual, due to parallax) calculated speed for a stationary object of: Vjet x h1/(h1+h2).

    The CAS (Calibrated Air Speed) of the jet is 250 knots. This results in a TAS (True Air Speed) of 370 knots at 25.000 feet. The jet’s ground speed Vjet equals TAS + wind speed. Wind speed is the great unknown here (see posts above), so we have to make an assumption.

    If we assume 70 knots wind speed, so Vjet = 440 knots, a stationary object at 13.000 feet would already have a virtual calculated speed of 440 x 13.000/25.000 = 230 knots. So it already gets 230 knots for free, without having to do anything. This only leaves 100 knots for the speed of the object itself, which is in the same ballpark as the calculations done for the video part where the object was locked by the ATFLIR.
     
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  35. Agent K

    Agent K Member

    It's nice to have the range to the "UFO" for once. In the Nimitz "tic tac" encounter, I speculated that the tic tac was a weather balloon, and the pilot, David Fravor, overestimated the range to it and thought it was "mirroring" him by staying on the opposite side of a circle that his jet was tracing, when the tic tac was actually staying in the center of the circle.
     
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  36. Kaen

    Kaen New Member

    I don't think a balloon fits the description in the event log:

    Fravor's narrative of these events:
    A balloon would not be able to outrun an F18. Unfortunately the FLIR1 video does not show any unusual manoeuvre or speed, though it does seem to show an object resembling a capsule.
     
  37. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    The question is if the event log fits the objective events.

    Here's a theory: occasionally, over the course of a decade, a pilot will lose situational awareness, but not realize it, and then later write down what he recalled observing. Occasionally this will coincide with ghost returns on a ship's radar, or some other event.

    The absolute rejection of this entirely plausible theory is the basis for some interpretations of these videos. This rejection is based on a misplaced deification of the observations skills of people who are still actually human.

    But in the current (GO FAST) video, and the GIMBAL video, we don't even have that. We just have a video of some pilots having fun locking onto random stuff they can't immediately identify.

    In the NIMIZ (tic-tac) video we don't have that either. Fravor's recollection is not of the events shown in the video, and really should be treated as separate.

    But this is the GO FAST thread.
     
  38. jarlrmai

    jarlrmai New Member

    Just to let you know I've been working on recreating the GO FAST video in Blender, It's amazing how similar to the video a 2 meter object at the ranges in the video looks in Blender through a square 1.5 degree FOV camera against a simulated ocean textured background. Also a brief animation of the camera moving in the forward axis only while tracking a stationary object exhibits a noticeable parallax effect.

    When assuming how the ATFLIR camera tracks is there anything I should be taking in to account? Can I discount the roll of the aircraft as the camera compensates and translate the camera mount in the x,y,z only?
     
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  39. Tom Mellett

    Tom Mellett New Member

    Hello @Kaen ! Thank you so much for that diagram above. It is really helpful to explain parallax effect to those unfamiliar with it.

    However, before I ask you questions I have about the assumptions made in the diagram, I would like to drop back and punt because I just discovered on FB Bruce Maccabee’s Original calculations made on March 9. (You operated only from his revised calculations dated March 12.) Here is the text of his original calculations. Does it give you any more insight into his process? It looks like his original calculations were more in line with yours, but then I suppose he revised his calculations because it wasn’t fitting the original narrative of TTSA that the object must be moving fast 380 Kn at a low altitude of 100 ft)

     
  40. jarlrmai

    jarlrmai New Member

    Sounds like he did some good work there.
     
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