Disney "Illumanti" pictures.
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hamishsubedei
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yea well we could debate the meaning of symbolism in logos and movies it would be a loooooong thread. CBS looks masonic to me .
Just because it's an eye?
hamishsubedei
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they have an eye in the triangle, so masonic - cbs and aol are not exactly 'illuminati' symbolism because the eye is above/seperated from the triangle/pyramid meaning separation of god/great architect from the great project/pyramid . Masonic symbolism is positive occult symbolism , illuminati is negative occult symbolism .
Or they just picked an eye and triangle to use.
Symbolism threads generally end up in Rambles, as they have no actual evidence, just speculation and cherry picking.
Feel free to add to this thread:
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/illuminati-symbolism-in-the-music-industry.2469/
Feel free to add to this thread:
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/illuminati-symbolism-in-the-music-industry.2469/
Leifer
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I once painted a small backdrop for the Disney film remake of "Flubber" (with Robin Williams).
It was of a night sky with moonlit clouds.
I tried to sneak in a bit of my personal humor into the painting, by incorporating some "Mickey Ears"....hidden amongst the clouds.
But someone noticed it before filming, and they had me remove the little joke.
I never took a photo of it.....too bad.
During this sequence.....at around 1:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GEHRWUA_o1U#t=87
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GEHRWUA_o1U#t=87
It was of a night sky with moonlit clouds.
I tried to sneak in a bit of my personal humor into the painting, by incorporating some "Mickey Ears"....hidden amongst the clouds.
But someone noticed it before filming, and they had me remove the little joke.
I never took a photo of it.....too bad.
During this sequence.....at around 1:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GEHRWUA_o1U#t=87
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GEHRWUA_o1U#t=87
deirdre
Senior Member.
considering this is nickelodeon, its probably just a sign-of-the-times subliminal money reference message to "spend money"
cosmic
Senior Member.
There's already an explanation provided by the people at CBS who designed the symbol, though. Why reject that and replace it with one you made up?
George B
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Never understood how symbols that most people don't have a conscious understanding of can influence them to do anything . . .
hamishsubedei
Member
because thats what masons do .Symbols have multiple levels of understanding according to masonry , there is more than one reason for the symbols masons use . Like the dollar bill there are multiple levels of understanding depending on your level of knowledgeThere's already an explanation provided by the people at CBS who designed the symbol, though. Why reject that and replace it with one you made up?
George B
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Symbols only mean something if you have been taught they do . . .
The Ideographic Myth
The concept of ideographic writing is a most seductive notion. There is great appeal in the concept of written symbols conveying their message directly to our minds, thus bypassing the restrictive intermediary of speech. And it seems so plausible. Surely ideas immediately pop into our minds when we see a road sign, a death's head label on a bottle of medicine, a number on a clock. Aren't Chinese characters a sophisticated system of symbols that similarly convey meaning without regard to sound? Aren't they an ideographic system of writing? http://www.pinyin.info/readings/texts/ideographic_myth.html
The hidden meaning of Petroglyphs
Doç. Dr. Haluk BERKMEN
Petroglyphs are images created by removing part of a rock by carving or engraving. This term is made out two Greek words, “petros” (stone) and “gliphein” (to carve). The oldest petroglyphs are believed to be at least 10,000 years old but as they are carved on rocks the exact date cannot be determined by carbon-14 dating. Petroglyphs are also defined as “rock art” but the message that they convey is totally disregarded. This is because the meaning in these carvings is closely related to the beliefs of that forgotten period. Without knowing the belief system of these ancient people it is quite impossible to decipher the hidden meaning of the petroglyphs. In this chapter I will try to unravel the hidden meaning of petroglyphs.
http://www.astroset.com/bireysel_gelisim/ancient/a3.htm
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deirdre
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I think as far as young kids the concept would be (if I was doing it anyway) to associate a symbol with a fun pleasant thing, like nickelodeon. or Disney.
George B
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You mean they are taught a meaning through an association; I have fun when I see a Masonic symbol . . . so they hold no meaning without the taught association . . . OK . . . so we are being indoctrinated by subliminal and other subtle propaganda and marketing . . .
deirdre
Senior Member.
hence the big breasted women when theyre trying to sell you something
cosmic
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That really doesn't answer my question.
P.S.: Could you please use the quote function when replying to other people instead of the external source tags? See: How to quote another post, using QUOTE tags
George B
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Hmmmm. . . now I understand that concept . . . that bypasses all verbal and symbolic meanings and goes straight to the brain as a graphic symbol . . . LoL!!!
Lobster Johnson
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As an art student myself I often find that I include things into my work for purely aesthetic purposes but when the CT filter is applied could have a meaning beyond that which I intended. An example is that I have always been drawn to single eyes, crucifixes and barbed wire. Now, I have used these visual devises since I was in school (before being aware of the Illuminati) and continue to do so. Am I making reference to some kind of anti-christian, totalitarian future ruled by the shadow government? No, I'm simply drawing those things because I find them pleasing.
Some people read far more into things than they warrant. The Disney paranoia is particularly virulent. His signature, for one, contains more curlicues which could be mistaken for sixes than are marked which suggests a heavy bias.
As a side note, many believe that his works are littered with masonic symbolism due to his alleged position as a mason... I personally know two artists who are long time masons and who paint fairly prosaic landscapes without even a hint of a hidden compass anywhere to be seen. Involvement in a society is not enough to inform output in such a way.
Some people read far more into things than they warrant. The Disney paranoia is particularly virulent. His signature, for one, contains more curlicues which could be mistaken for sixes than are marked which suggests a heavy bias.
As a side note, many believe that his works are littered with masonic symbolism due to his alleged position as a mason... I personally know two artists who are long time masons and who paint fairly prosaic landscapes without even a hint of a hidden compass anywhere to be seen. Involvement in a society is not enough to inform output in such a way.
Lobster Johnson
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It's a mis-informed Christian fundamentalist mistrust of secret groups which perpetrates this kind of nonsense. Interestingly we don't seem to have an issue with it in England due to the prevalence of the Anglican faith. My father-in-law is a mason and my brother-in-law is a vicar and that sits fine. Personally I would be far more inclined to mistrust a banker.
hamishsubedei
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Not that theres anything wrong with being a mason or a christian or a muslim or buddhist but all religions or sects can breed extremist ideas .
Many spin off secret societies of the mason group are extremists and those include the illuminatati , P2 masonic lodge, OTL, Thule society and the bohemian club.
Many spin off secret societies of the mason group are extremists and those include the illuminatati , P2 masonic lodge, OTL, Thule society and the bohemian club.
FrederickEason
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Melbury's Brick
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Should be a very short thread.
Poster 1 "Illuminati symbolism is everywhwere"
Poster 2 "Do you have any evidence to connect these extremely popular, and therefore very common icons with the "Illuminati", other than your own belief?
Poster 1 "No".
Josh Heuer
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I think if we want any real truth on this subject, we would have to separate each image (by artist, presumably) and literally ask the person who drew it what their intentions were. Otherwise we're left with nothing but idle speculating.
The best way to go would be to separate them into 'intentional/unintentional'. If the image was unintentional, and it's just something that happened by chance, then no need to go any further. (Like the 666 in Walt Disney's signature...it's a stretch)
If the image was intentionally drawn in (like the word 'Illuminati' on the chalkboard in Zack & Cody...that didn't accidentally get scribbled there), then we would have to find out who drew it/wrote it, and ask them why.
Maybe some of these people have blogs on the Internet and have explained the reason they put some of this stuff in their work. Chances are we'll never know the answer to some of this.
The best way to go would be to separate them into 'intentional/unintentional'. If the image was unintentional, and it's just something that happened by chance, then no need to go any further. (Like the 666 in Walt Disney's signature...it's a stretch)
If the image was intentionally drawn in (like the word 'Illuminati' on the chalkboard in Zack & Cody...that didn't accidentally get scribbled there), then we would have to find out who drew it/wrote it, and ask them why.
Maybe some of these people have blogs on the Internet and have explained the reason they put some of this stuff in their work. Chances are we'll never know the answer to some of this.
deirdre
Senior Member.
it would also to help to actually watch the episodes and see what the context is.
Mickey Mouse Clubhouse episode: The Friendship Team
Duck Tales: episode: Yuppy Duck
Suite Life Zack and Cody episode : Nugget of History
the 666 in the Disney logo is just silliness.
Josh Heuer
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That's a possibility too, but only if they fit in with the episode in some way. If not then it falls back on 'ask the artist'
deirdre
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They almost always tie into the episode. google: I hate Barney. there was this crazy pervasive hatred of Barney amongst (ALL)adults back in the day and I think it was because they didn't weave in any adult jokes for those of us stuck watching. Sesame street is the worst for off colored jokes! the kids don't understand but the parents watching do. Good kid shows will add stuff for the adults to keep our brains from completely melting ; )
Hama Neggs
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Lost of humor in cartoons was aimed at adult intellectuals as 'inside jokes'.
Josh Heuer
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Phineas & Ferb has some silly adult stuff...there was an episode where the sister was tripping on mushrooms...I remember an episode where they mentioned 'existentialist trading cards' (i'll trade you two Sartres for a Nietzsche! Stuck in my head) and I thought, 'yeah kids have no idea what that means.'
Bill
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I hated Barney because if the insipid theme song and its assumption that my kid (part of their target demographic at the time) was a congenital idiot. As an aside, she saw someone in a Barney costume in the local mall. She screamed and ran in the other direction.
deirdre
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it was the dorkier than dork kids that did it for me!
deirdre
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Fortean Slip
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Are you suggesting that any use of an eye in art or graphical design is a reference to the Illuminati?
Jason
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Funny story, for me my hatred towards Barney was because of my job. I worked on the beach in Pt Pleasant NJ for 5yrs during my summer breaks in High School, and freshman year of college. Right across from the gate I managed was a concession stand that played the barney song all day long, over and over and over again. I literally wanted to quit my job on several occasions because of that stand.
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