1. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    From Public Policy Polling:
    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/04/conspiracy-theory-poll-results-.html

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_National_ConspiracyTheories_040213.pdf



    The full survey is very interesting, and includes the chemtrail theory:

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    This 5% unfortunately does not tell us much, as it seems to be about the percentage of people who will answer "yes" to just about any question:
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    The breakdowns are interesting:
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    So a chemtrail believer tends to be:
    • Slightly more Republican than Democrat
    • Not a "moderate", they tend to identify towards either end of the liberal-conservative spectrum
    • Both males and females, but females are a bit more likely to be unsure about the topic
    • Not Black. Perhaps because these types of conspiracy are not popular in Black culture?
    • Young. The chemtrail demographic is strongly skewed towards those under the age of 30.

    Anecdotally, this seems about right. The "hard core" chemtrail believers are typically from the 2% in the middle-aged and older crowd, both male and female. But when there are outreach session - like demonstrations, then the people who listen to them are the younger crowd.

    This also misses a quite significant chunk of people under the age of 18, older teenagers, where belief in chemtrails may well be even higher than 17%.
     
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  2. Jay Reynolds

    Jay Reynolds Senior Member

    Professional Poll shows 5% of Americans are Chemtrail Believers, 8% unsure

    A professional polling firm surveyed 1,247 registered voters asking the following question and obtained these results:

    Q17

    Do you believe that the exhaust seen in the sky
    behind airplanes is actually chemicals sprayed
    by the government for sinister reasons, or not?
    Do 5%
    Do not 87%
    Not sure 8%

    The poll surveyed many other conspiracy theories. For example, 4% of registered voters believe that the world is run by Reptilian Shape Shifters, 7% are not sure.

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_National_ConspiracyTheories_040213.pdf
     
  3. George B

    George B Extinct but not forgotten Staff Member

    Interesting. . . people who didn't vote for a Democrat or a Republican Presidential candidate registered a 23% response regarding chemicals being sprayed from aircraft. . . .
     
  4. hemi

    hemi Active Member

    Wait. What...?



    1 in 16 democrats believe that the leader of their own party is the anti-christ?!

    Sometimes you just gotta say: America is a strange place.
     
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  5. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    I wonder about the accuracy of the poll. It's just a random phone poll, maybe it's skewed by people who just enjoy giving random crazy answers.
     
  6. Unregistered

    Unregistered Guest

    First, they can not run chem trails through the exhaust, they found that it acts in reverse and is discussed on one of their patents. Secondly, both chemtrails and contrails exist today, all you have to do is have the patience to sit back and watch near an airport with high altitude bombers and distinguish the difference. In case you don't understand I put a you tube video out to demonstrate the differences. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQLMpRWfsqY But I am sure you are going to argue against logic and claim one is 10 feet higher or lower or some kind of mumbo jumbo. It is simple, they're making them and I have seen the external tanks on the low altitude ones with a good set of specs.
     
  7. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    If you can see these external tanks, then why are there no photos of them?
     
  8. blargo

    blargo Member

    The pollster was one of the more accurate in the 2012 and the 2008 presidential campaign. I know any one poll can be a outlier and without other polls polling the same subjects we are left to wonder a bit.
     
  9. frenat

    frenat New Member

    [the following few posts were merged here from another thread]

    He's far overestimating how many people believe in "chemtrails".
     
  10. MikeC

    MikeC Senior Member

    i'm surprised they didn't use "statistics" like this reader poll (see sidebar on left) to say that over 60% of peopel believe int them!

    BTW the poll is stil open, and I've seen it touted on a couple of chemtals sites lately for people to go and vote, so by all means have your say.....
     
  11. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

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  12. M Bornong

    M Bornong Senior Member

  13. frenat

    frenat New Member

    I doubt either of those could be considered scientific polls (edit to add: looks like the second one is but still seems skewed). I personally still think 2% is high. I don't have anything to back it up except I've yet to actually meet anyone that believed in them. I'll meet Moon hoax believers from time to time but have yet to meet anyone that believes in "chemtrails". I've also yet to meet anyone that actually believes in bigfoot, mind controlling TV, or lizard people.
     
  14. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    M Borong linked to the same poll as I did. It's a random phone survey of 1,247 registered voters, see:

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_National_ConspiracyTheories_040213.pdf

    So it's not representative of of the actual population, just those that vote, and take calls from phone surveys.
     
  15. HappyMonday

    HappyMonday Moderator

    Clearly not a musician then...
     
  16. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    Indeed, I'd reckon that there are certain demographics where it's quite high. Young rebellious people seem much more open to the idea. Anyone with a bit of a counter-culture bent. There's quite a few suchlike here in Venice, CA.
     
  17. blargo

    blargo Member

    The crosstabs in the poll reflect this:
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    Both sides of the political extremes have higher chemtrail belief and the middle has none. The other thing to take into account is the margin of error which is +/- 2.8 percent. So overall 5% can be as low as 2.2%. My take on this is that the vast majority of voting inclined people do not believe in chemtrails or at least not willing to go on record saying they do.
     
  18. I dare say the vast majority have never even heard of chemtrails.

    If the poll had been "Do you believe in chemtrails?" it would need 3 options. 1 - Yes, 2 - No, 3 - Pardon, what on earth is a chemtrail?
     
  19. blargo

    blargo Member

    Yes you are probably right. The other thing to keep in mind is that this survey asked about many CT's and at what point did the respondents start experiencing question fatigue?
     
  20. scombrid

    scombrid Senior Member

    Both extremes blend into one another in their hatred of "the establishment".
     
  21. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    And what kind of person actually takes these surveys seriously? Really, who would spend 5-10 minutes listening to a robot and pressing buttons?

    I think pretty much anything that gets less than 5% could quite possibly be just people either pressing random buttons to make things go faster, or people deliberately choosing the "craziest" answer just for laughs.
     
  22. Joe

    Joe Senior Member

    I think if the survey was taken during the Bush administration the outcome would be different .