Claim: US military are preparing a major PSYOP/martial law - Op Jade Helm

Santa's sidekick said:
If this whole thing is 1200 troops, why are CTers making such a big deal about it? Is it so rare to have >1200 troops participate in exercises in the US?
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As mentioned above, 1600 is pretty much nothing, the US regularly has 20,000+ involved in exercises, and we don't even go that big compared to some countries. Foal Eagle, an annual exercise held between the US and North Korea, regularly has well over 200,000 participants.

The why of it comes down to just not understanding how military power works. They know 1600 US soldiers is a pretty powerful force and commands a substantial amount of firepower, they probably have a fair idea of how much damage those 1600 soldiers could do in an attack (but vastly underestimate just how much ammunition they would expend doing it), but, be it from Hollywood or video games or what, they have no understanding of how much and what kind of power it takes to control an area, only what it takes to wreck the place first.
 
What I don't understand is why waste so much resources when "they" have more efficient means of (mind) control available (or so I'm told).
 
Balance said:
What I don't understand is why waste so much resources when "they" have more efficient means of (mind) control available (or so I'm told).
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Well the initial theory touted by IW was just that - this was designed to get the "sheeple" used to seeing the military operating amongst them, to desensitise the public (hence the psyop/mind control allegation). Since then, it's blossomed into martial law about to be put into effect(Before it's news), FEMA "death domes" (Dahboo7). And then when it turns out to be nothing of the sort I'm sure the headlines will be something along the lines of the CT crowd bragging about how they blew a secret military operation out of the water by exposing it.
 
occams rusty scissor said:
Yup, you called it: http://www.infowars.com/police-and-national-guard-invade-baltimore-streets/


This is a glimpse of what a martial law scenario would look like with militarized police and national guard being deployed to quell the riots in Baltimore.
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They love the "militarized police" tagline. Did they think a public order response would be carried out in dress uniform, shiny shoes and stern gazes?
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No.. whiffle bats and free hugs.
 
Balance said:
What I don't understand is why waste so much resources when "they" have more efficient means of (mind) control available (or so I'm told).
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Spaghetti theory, Balance. Throw enough shit at the wall and eventually SOMETHING will stick. Kind of like how moms used to throw spaghetti against the back splash to see if it was done cooking yet.
 
Svartbjørn said:
Spaghetti theory, Balance. Throw enough shit at the wall and eventually SOMETHING will stick. Kind of like how moms used to throw spaghetti against the back splash to see if it was done cooking yet.
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Excuse me being facetious back there. But....

it's ironic that if the governor is responding to CT fears by sending in (National State) Guard, who's the mind controller now (I'm looking at you Alex)?
 
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Further martial law discussion re Baltimore riots has now been tenuously linked to JH15 where, of course, civil unrest drills have only recently taken place among National Guard units, stirring up the "drills gone live" hype that we have heard in the past about recent events coinciding with drills/training.


Are We Being Psychologically Conditioned To Accept Martial Law In America?
Have you noticed that we are starting to be bombarded with images of troops in the streets?

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Finally, after several hours of madness, the order was given and the National Guard was brought in to quell the rioting.

And it just so happens to turn out that National Guard troops all over the nation have recently been engaged in something called “civil unrest training”…

Many of the Guardsmen are trained for a situation just like the one in Maryland.

It’s called “civil unrest training,” and it was recently completed in Tennessee with a local police department.

Troops have also trained in Maryland and Colorado.

“It really helped put it into perspective the person we are going to be up against – the rioter, the unruly person,” said one National Guard official.

The training includes gas mask training and practice with shields and batons.

Isn’t that convenient?

There are so many instances in which “training” seems to eerily correspond with actual events. That is one of the reasons why so many people are concerned about Jade Helm and all of the other very elaborate military exercises that are being held around the country in 2015. In fact, there has been so much concern about Jade Helm that the governor of Texas has ordered the Texas Guard to monitor Jade Helm.

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The following is a map from Jade Helm materials, and it designates Utah and Texas as “hostile territory”. Yes, I know that this is supposed to be an “exercise”, but even so this is highly inappropriate to say the least...
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It mentions "all of the other elaborate military exercises" none of which have been any cause for CT concern until now. I'm making assumptions, but my bet is we will now see interest in every military exercise from the CT mob, following their usual "if it happens once it's a pattern" mentality.

Edit: I've said it before, but is it really that much of a stretch to think that public order training would be conducted semi-regularly, using public order equipment such as shields and gas masks?
 
Balance said:
Excuse me being facetious back there. But....

it's ironic that if the governor is responding to CT fears by sending in National Guard, who's the mind controller now (I'm looking at you Alex)?
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I agree, its a paradox.. youve got the Govenor of Texas, using the State Guard (which is different from the National Guard) to keep an eye on the military. So a man who works for teh very government thats evil, is using his OWN troops (the state guard answers directly to the Governor of Tx) to watch the evil boogie men.. Gotta love the logic.
 
occams rusty scissor said:
Further martial law discussion re Baltimore riots has now been tenuously linked to JH15 where, of course, civil unrest drills have only recently taken place among National Guard units, stirring up the "drills gone live" hype that we have heard in the past about recent events coinciding with drills/training.


Are We Being Psychologically Conditioned To Accept Martial Law In America?
Have you noticed that we are starting to be bombarded with images of troops in the streets?

....

Finally, after several hours of madness, the order was given and the National Guard was brought in to quell the rioting.

And it just so happens to turn out that National Guard troops all over the nation have recently been engaged in something called “civil unrest training”…

Many of the Guardsmen are trained for a situation just like the one in Maryland.

It’s called “civil unrest training,” and it was recently completed in Tennessee with a local police department.

Troops have also trained in Maryland and Colorado.

“It really helped put it into perspective the person we are going to be up against – the rioter, the unruly person,” said one National Guard official.

The training includes gas mask training and practice with shields and batons.

Isn’t that convenient?

There are so many instances in which “training” seems to eerily correspond with actual events. That is one of the reasons why so many people are concerned about Jade Helm and all of the other very elaborate military exercises that are being held around the country in 2015. In fact, there has been so much concern about Jade Helm that the governor of Texas has ordered the Texas Guard to monitor Jade Helm.

...

The following is a map from Jade Helm materials, and it designates Utah and Texas as “hostile territory”. Yes, I know that this is supposed to be an “exercise”, but even so this is highly inappropriate to say the least...
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It mentions "all of the other elaborate military exercises" none of which have been any cause for CT concern until now. I'm making assumptions, but my bet is we will now see interest in every military exercise from the CT mob, following their usual "if it happens once it's a pattern" mentality.
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Yep, because its COMPLETELY illogical for the National Guard to practice for civil unrest after the Ferguson Fiasco.. they'll just wait until several cities burn to the ground before they decide to practice dealing with it. Im going to get some sleep before my snarkiness gets me into trouble LOL.. See you guys in a few hours.
 
There are so many instances in which “training” seems to eerily correspond with actual events.
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Shouldn't we expect the military to train for events they expect they will have to deal with?
 
occams rusty scissor said:
They love the "militarized police" tagline. Did they think a public order response would be carried out in dress uniform, shiny shoes and stern gazes?
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I personally like the double standard that CTers believe they should be heavily armed, dress up in combat gear, attend tactical shooting schools and hang out with the rest of their white, middle aged, slightly insecure and paranoid friends, but that if the cops get body armour, helmets and rifles, tyranny is on its way!!!!!!!
 
MikeC said:
Not in CT world - that is "proof positive" that het military are training to do those things tomorrow.....
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I agree! The military is for providing employment to 'true' patriots and for taking the freedom away from foreigners.

But if the NWO control the military in CT world, then they are brainwashed and it wont be long before they are pushing people into railcars for the gas chambers.... No, its not gas chambers is it, its guillotines, right?

Imagine if the Nazis had attempted to perform the Holocaust using guillotines.... These Illuminati are really dumb....:confused:
 
I keep saying we need a better class of overloards - they can't keep chemtrails secret, everyone knows Prince Phillip is a lizard, ther isn't even an illusion that money is worth something, and FEMA death camps exist in plan public view all over the world........:rolleyes::cool:
 
MikeC said:
I keep saying we need a better class of overloards - they can't keep chemtrails secret, everyone knows Prince Phillip is a lizard, ther isn't even an illusion that money is worth something, and FEMA death camps exist in plan public view all over the world........:rolleyes::cool:
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Yes. The hidden hand is rubbish at hiding.
 
Aren't the CT's who are paranoid about this the same people who wanted troops in the Southwest to stop illegal immigration?
 
occams rusty scissor said:
Further martial law discussion re Baltimore riots has now been tenuously linked to JH15 where, of course, civil unrest drills have only recently taken place among National Guard units, stirring up the "drills gone live" hype that we have heard in the past about recent events coinciding with drills/training.


Are We Being Psychologically Conditioned To Accept Martial Law In America?
Have you noticed that we are starting to be bombarded with images of troops in the streets?

....

Finally, after several hours of madness, the order was given and the National Guard was brought in to quell the rioting.

And it just so happens to turn out that National Guard troops all over the nation have recently been engaged in something called “civil unrest training”…

Many of the Guardsmen are trained for a situation just like the one in Maryland.

It’s called “civil unrest training,” and it was recently completed in Tennessee with a local police department.

Troops have also trained in Maryland and Colorado.

“It really helped put it into perspective the person we are going to be up against – the rioter, the unruly person,” said one National Guard official.

The training includes gas mask training and practice with shields and batons.

Isn’t that convenient?

There are so many instances in which “training” seems to eerily correspond with actual events. That is one of the reasons why so many people are concerned about Jade Helm and all of the other very elaborate military exercises that are being held around the country in 2015. In fact, there has been so much concern about Jade Helm that the governor of Texas has ordered the Texas Guard to monitor Jade Helm.

...

The following is a map from Jade Helm materials, and it designates Utah and Texas as “hostile territory”. Yes, I know that this is supposed to be an “exercise”, but even so this is highly inappropriate to say the least...
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It mentions "all of the other elaborate military exercises" none of which have been any cause for CT concern until now. I'm making assumptions, but my bet is we will now see interest in every military exercise from the CT mob, following their usual "if it happens once it's a pattern" mentality.

Edit: I've said it before, but is it really that much of a stretch to think that public order training would be conducted semi-regularly, using public order equipment such as shields and gas masks?
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Interesting view for them to take.

From what I've seen on my Facebook feed, a majority of the people who are bent out of shape about Jade Helm are okay with the Baltimore PD's actions and the National Guard presence in the city.
 
Jeremy said:
Aren't the CT's who are paranoid about this the same people who wanted troops in the Southwest to stop illegal immigration?
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Kind of. Keep in mind that there are as many different kind of conspiracy theorists out there as there are non conspiracy types.

With that said, yes there's a double standard or a type of hypocrisy involved, but its a common affliction across all of North America and not reserved just for Conspiracy types or people here in the US. What Im talking about (and has been pointed out in this thread before) is that there's a propensity for people to want the rules and the laws to apply to everyone EXCEPT themselves.

If you expand on that a bit, you have the same situation but the verbiage is changed. People want troops/military/cops etc to do A, B or C but only as long as it aligns with their personal agendas or beliefs.. any time any of the above goes outside their personal designations of what they SHOULD be used for (and according to who is in power at the time as well) they become jackboot thugs or "They're out to put us in FEMA camps" or whatever scenario that you can think of that fits within whatever narrative they're using at that particular moment in time. Does that answer or your question, or even make sense?

Jeremy said:
Interesting view for them to take.

From what I've seen on my Facebook feed, a majority of the people who are bent out of shape about Jade Helm are okay with the Baltimore PD's actions and the National Guard presence in the city.
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Yep, because it doesnt effect THEM specifically.
 
CeruleanBlu said:
@Santa's sidekick you have to be aware of the incessant "collapse" mantra that runs throughout the likes of Beck and Limbaugh followers, and the gold adverts in the reading material they send out. My father likes to pass his American Rifleman, Limbaugh Letter and The Blaze on to me whenever he finishes them, and the chicken little is strong with these great leaders of men. From the Agenda 21 nonsense that Beck spews, to the "political aspects of AGW denial" and "BUY GOLD BUY GOLD" spiel from the both of them, it's more apparent. Whether non-binding UN agreements based on climate change issues or societal goals, which are both hot topics judging from the printed material they pump out, these CT folks who have been preaching this same martial law mantra for generations tend to find some way to wind the forthcoming failure of government leadership into UN troops knocking on their door to imprison them.

When the voices of these movements don't explicitly state the endgame being martial law, (like Alex Jones has been doing for the last 20 years,) it isn't hard for their generalized non-specific doom-saying to be added to the "evidence" pile that emits from the INFOWARS crew. Whether Beck or Rush themselves have spoken those words on TV or in radio or not in the last 20 years, I don't know, last show of Rush's I listened to was late '90s. So no, I cant vouch for their specific beliefs about the subject, but their actions certainly don't help those already infected with the idea.
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I remember when Limbaugh would ridicule conspiracy theories in the 1990's (even the ones about Bill Clinton). Now he seems to pander to CT's.
 
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occams rusty scissor said:

Are We Being Psychologically Conditioned To Accept Martial Law In America?
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See, this is proof of how bad the U.S. Government is:
1,200 guys to administer martial law in a country of 319,000,000?!? :oops:

One soldier for every 27,000 citizens?

I have to share my martial law soldier with a crowd almost the size of a day game at Fenway Park?

How the hell is my G.I. Joe going to keep us in line? That's government planning? Hell, I'll hardly be martial'd at all!

Typical Washington: can't even do martial law proper!
 
NoParty said:
See, this is proof of how bad the U.S. Government is:
1,200 guys to administer martial law in a country of 319,000,000?!? :oops:

One soldier for every 27,000 citizens?

I have to share my martial law soldier with a crowd almost the size of a day game at Fenway Park?

How the hell is my G.I. Joe going to keep us in line? That's government planning? Hell, I'll hardly be martial'd at all!

Typical Washington: can't even do martial law proper!
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To be fair, the theory doesn't predict martial law in the entire country, just in Texas and/or states listed as "hostile" on the map. Texas only has 27 million people, so each soldier only has to preside over about 16,000 citizens.

Still so far into impossibility that it might as well be a billion, though. It took more than fifty times more US soldiers plus coalition and local forces just to try to keep cities and main roads clear in Iraq, and while Texas has a comparable population it's also over 60% larger.
 
Hevach said:
Still so far into impossibility that it might as well be a billion, though. It took more than fifty times more US soldiers plus coalition and local forces just to try to keep cities and main roads clear in Iraq, and while Texas has a comparable population it's also over 60% larger.
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Nail on the head Hevach...Not to mention having much better weaponry and determination. In Iraq, troops dealt mostly with insurgents.. small pockets scattered throughout the cities.. If this were to turn into a combat zone, there wouldnt be small pockets, itd be half of the population or more defending their homes PLUS all the trigger happy assholes willing and ready to take pot shots at the government. A military group that size would be out gunned, out manned and out maneuvered before re-reinforcements could arrive. It makes no sense to use these guys as an invasion force from a tactical perspective, let alone martial law..
 
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Svartbjørn said:
A military group that size would be out gunned, out manned and out maneuvered before re-reinforcements could arrive.
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Ahhh, but thats not the claim: The claim is this is a dummy-run to acclimatise US citizens for the jack-booted tyranny of the NWO...

Who control the markets and the media and want to put everyone into FEMA camps because..............????
 
Spectrar Ghost said:
To misquote Bill Watterson - FEMA Camps build character.
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It might do some of them good, but this is the most stupid part of the 'Martial Law' claim: If the evil ones put everyone in a FEMA camp, who is manning the factories and corporations that make the Illuminati money and provide them with Billionaire status?

If Walmart are in on it too, who do they think will be buying their cheap crap after takeover day?
 
Us sheeple, of course. It's the very special people who have pierced the veil who will be rounded up and exterminated.
 
If we're all in FEMA camps none of us will be making any money and paying income tax and how would the evil government fund it's war on us?
 
JRBids said:
If we're all in FEMA camps none of us will be making any money and paying income tax and how would the evil government fund it's war on us?
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Little patience please - you'll soon find out!

Edit - :)
 
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BombDr said:
It might do some of them good, but this is the most stupid part of the 'Martial Law' claim: If the evil ones put everyone in a FEMA camp, who is manning the factories and corporations that make the Illuminati money and provide them with Billionaire status?

If Walmart are in on it too, who do they think will be buying their cheap crap after takeover day?
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The notion that Walmart is part of the conspiracy is pretty nonsensical since the company doesn't like how Obama wants them to raise their wages.
 
*sigh*

http://tellmenow.com/2015/05/breaki...les-fully-loaded-with-combat-prepared-troops/

Now, this story has gotten a whole lot stranger after witnesses reveal they saw “30 UN vehicles fully loaded with combat prepared troops” driving through Texas.
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From the comments:

This is a BS post, just fear mongering. Do a little research and you will find that the above photos were actually posted a year ago, not recently. The trucks are legit, but they are there because there is a plant in Texas that manufactures and exports them. There is even a picture of that same truck on there website. http://supremecorp.com/armored/
This is nothing to loose sleep over. Just a made up post to insight fear and anger.
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Seems logical.

But...then:

I see any U.N. troops I will immediately open fire on them. Kill them all.
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Ugh.
 
CapnPegleg said:
Ugh.
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This is pretty much exactly what that one guy told Glenn Beck right before he shot two cops who were just looking for a lost dog or something.

Some idiot is probably going to do something stupid over this and somebody innocent is going to get hurt.
 
SR1419 said:
Probably not much...unless he tweeted it...or made a Youtube video :D
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Now there a theatre piece crying out to be produced, a classic novel acted out in real time via social media!! I'm meeting up with a couple of arty friends over the next week or so we shall bounce a few ideas around.
 
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