1. Debunk This

    Debunk This New Member

    Oh, and WHO changed my avatar? and WHY?
     
  2. Debunk This

    Debunk This New Member

    Quoting Ross marsden "They are nowhere near either the plane or the trail. At about 2:00 you can see the definition of the "orb" change as the camera struggles to auto-focus on the shifting image content. The "orb" is much closer to the camera than the plane/contrail/clouds/buildings. " OK.. what about this then? and don't say they aren't near the trail http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvZfPsQeZgM
     
  3. Spongebob

    Spongebob Active Member

    Looks like insects/bugs of some kind a lot closer to the camera.

    If these (?) are "studying" contrails why do they not stay right on/in the trail?

    There is nothing in this video that indicates that the (?) are close to the contrail.
     
  4. Debunk This

    Debunk This New Member

    REALLY? Look at 0:38 / 39 I'd say it's PLENTY CLOSE
     
  5. Debunk This

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    "Looks like insects/bugs of some kind a lot closer to the camera." BLAH BLAH.. MORE birds/insect nonsense.. how many of these orbs do you want me to post?
     
  6. Debunk This

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  7. MikeC

    MikeC Senior Member

    So you are saying that "orbs" are the result of trails?

    What is your evidence for that - YT videos?

    How many other videos without trails are there on YT that have some sort of "orb" in them? Have you determined the ratio with and without contrails, with and without orbs?

    And how have you established this causal relationship?
     
  8. MikeC

    MikeC Senior Member

    OK - I won't say that.

    I'll ask you how you know they are near the trail?

    How do you know they are not 1mm from the lens, or 1m, or 100km? What is your method for determining the distance between orb and trail, or between orb and camera?
     
  9. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    I had to assign everyone avatars if they did not have one already, as the new sidebar requires them. If you don't like it, you can change it on your setting page.
     
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  11. Danny55

    Danny55 Member

    "OK.. what about this then? and don't say they aren't near the trail http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvZfPsQeZgM"

    Didn't spend too much time in line of sight with the "chemtrail". Must just be using the tricorders to analyse it.
     
  12. PCWilliams

    PCWilliams Active Member

    The horrors. How dare they show fluffy clouds in advertising. Next thing you know they'll be using little bunnys! Makes me so angry!:mad:
     
  13. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    I think all the cigarette packets in the first video were fake.
     
  14. firepilot

    firepilot New Member

    And the first picture on there, was a boat wake.
     
  15. PCWilliams

    PCWilliams Active Member

  16. Danny55

    Danny55 Member

    [​IMG] Originally Posted by Debunk This[​IMG]
    What about all this contrail propaganda appearing in media and more? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0PEOn7TmG0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tccKw2XEceU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s38aNHCjGdchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E10CJUfU2vk I have even noticed similar trails on the LEGO advertisements here in AUS Why flood this shit everywhere?
    The horrors. How dare they show fluffy clouds in advertising. Next thing you know they'll be using little bunnys! Makes me so angry!:mad:"

    In the first video, the Winfield Sky Blue 25 pack is a fake.
    In the McD ad, someone appears to suggest that chemtrails contain bananas and strawberries. Makes a change from Aluminium and Barium I suppose.
    The playmobil ads also suggest that people do not have noses.... must be the viruses and mutated pathogens in chemtrails that does that.
     
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  17. scombrid

    scombrid Senior Member

    Can you describe your methodology for determining distance?
     
  18. JFDee

    JFDee Senior Member

    I'm doing bird watching from time to time. This occasionally involves following a circling or hovering bird (e.g. a falcon in "heli" mode) with my 10x50 binoculars.

    What always strikes me is the number of insects/bees/beetles that are crossing through the field of vision in these moments (provided the weather is favourable enough). I can't see them with my bare eyes because it's practically impossible to focus on them with the sky behind.

    A camera could easily pick them up when zooming - except, when it is pointed to things high up in the sky, they are out of focus ...
     
  19. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    A lot of the "orb" videos use digital zoom, where EVERYTHING is out of focus. You don't notice it so much on the contrails as they are pretty soft edged anyway.

    This is from "UFOs studying a contrail":
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    Clearly the entire image is out of focus, it's the result of digital zoom.
     
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  20. Debunk This

    Debunk This New Member

    Nope, What exactly makes you think it's fake?
     
  21. Debunk This

    Debunk This New Member

    Boat wake that looks EXACTLY like a CON/Chemtrail? ok..
     
  22. Debunk This

    Debunk This New Member

    LOL.. is all
     
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  23. Debunk This

    Debunk This New Member

    "the Winfield Sky Blue 25 pack is a fake" :rolleyes:

    No, it is not. I have both of these packets sitting in my room.. NOT FAKE
     
  24. Danny55

    Danny55 Member

    Perhaps a photo showing the packets with a recent newspaper would help, as they are not shown on the manufacturer's webpages.
     
  25. Debunk This

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  26. Debunk This

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    Yes, they wouldn't be. they are limited edition packets
     
  27. Leifer

    Leifer Senior Member

    I've not seen DebunkThis (DT) say anything like, "Yes, I'll consider that."
    Given the many suggestions, it seems like he/she is not interested in any other explanations.
     
  28. Debunk This

    Debunk This New Member

    Really?

    Someone needs to go back and read:

    https://www.metabunk.org/posts/3262
     
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  29. Leifer

    Leifer Senior Member

    ....and if I see that DT has his/her own set of rules regarding logical suggestions....I see no point in continuing any further.
     
  30. Debunk This

    Debunk This New Member

    These pokemon screens you showed is NOT what I'm talking about. It was two full huge "CONtrails". big and white against a nice blue sky... nothing like this

    "I think your comments simply reveal you are not familiar with 20th century manga , anime and other illustration conventions known to most modern artists"

    LOL... you have no idea how wrong you are buddy
     
  31. Leifer

    Leifer Senior Member

    Quite often, if a majority of opinion differentiates from your own, it is a sign that you may be mistaken in your opinion.
     
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  32. Debunk This

    Debunk This New Member


    Stupid is as stupid does
     
  33. Leifer

    Leifer Senior Member

    That's a cop-out statement. You can better yourself by replying to the evidence.
     
  34. Leifer

    Leifer Senior Member

    Can you tell me ...."what I have needed to go back and re-read" ??
    Can you re-state that in a sentence ?
     
  35. swoop

    swoop New Member

    I think you are the wrong one. As a pilot and knowing many commercial pilots, I can tell you there is nothing in our flight manuals on spraying Chemtrails! I'm also wondering where these tanks hide in the plane and how they are loaded up whilst sitting at the gate.

    I'm also wondering if you studied meteorology so you understand how contrails form and why they can last for some time. Have you studied photography and parallax error: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallax this will help explain your "orbs"

    Have you bothered to study up on it or just look at youtube videos?

    I laugh everytime I look at peekay22's videos. The guy doesn't understand meteorology, or flight paths, how great circles and prevailing winds affect flights.
     
  36. Debunk This

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    Keep laughing.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_agD_bmGjWw "I can tell you there is nothing in our flight manuals on spraying Chemtrails!" Who said there was? ... "I'm also wondering if you studied meteorology so you understand how contrails form and why they can last for some time" Yes, I'm quite aware thank you.
     
  37. swoop

    swoop New Member

    If you had studied meteorology you would know exactly that they are contrails formed by water vapour. nothing more or nothing sinister.

    Looked up parallax error yet? that video is nothing more than a bird flying across the camera! UFO, really???? even my 8YO can see that it is a bird!
     
  38. Debunk This

    Debunk This New Member

    are you serious dude? More birds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71odntWVsow
     
  39. Debunk This

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  40. swoop

    swoop New Member

    yes you are right there.. more birds and bugs! I still can't believe you really think they are UFO's!!!