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  1. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

    "don't get on skin-Mojo bag". It means Hazmat, the NSA, etc has to get involved to safely remove the material and test it. It means thousands of dollars in tax payers money.

    It also means every mother in your neighborhood is gonna feel her children are threatened. Don't leave bags of powder around with vague threats of poison attached to them. This has nothing to do with free speech.
     
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  2. Landru

    Landru Moderator Staff Member

    NSA is not a responder agency. Why would they be involved?
     
  3. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

    :) because I suck at acronyms. I was going to add the tobacco and firearms one but cant remember its letters. I meant DHS sorry.
     
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  4. Svartbjørn

    Svartbjørn Senior Member

    ATF - Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms
     
  5. M Bornong

    M Bornong Senior Member

  6. M Bornong

    M Bornong Senior Member

    Matt Landman's new documentary, Frankenskies has been released on YouTube.



    He's been quick to delete and block any dissenting comments, but the threats of violence against David Keith and pilots are allowed to stay.

    FSThreats.
     
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  7. M Bornong

    M Bornong Senior Member

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  9. Trailblazer

    Trailblazer Moderator Staff Member

    Considering contrails don't generally appear until a plane reaches cruising altitude, how is he planning to target a "chemtrail plane" on takeoff?
     
  10. Whitebeard

    Whitebeard Senior Member

    Sadly I am dreading the moment when one these idiots tries it. I can see how it will play out. Chemtrailer 'identifies' spray plane; drones an engine on take off, plane crashes killing innocent folk, then chemtrailers scream cover up and claim the bodies were placed there to hide the 'fact' it was a spray plane. :(
     
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  11. Critical Thinker

    Critical Thinker Senior Member

  12. McGurnicle

    McGurnicle Member

    Yeah, conspiracism is getting more dangerous with certain technologies becoming more readily available . What you guys are doing to combat the madness is commendable but it's not enough. I think the underlying angst that breeds these paranoid notions is due to deep systemic problems within our society. Until we address the underlying causes like the wealth gap, the democratic deficit, regulatory and academic capture, corporatized media, etc, the problem is going to continue to grow rapidly. I can't blame people for freaking out, our civilization is out of control in a lot of ways and everyone senses it. Education is great, but the only way to defuse the situation is through extensive social and political reform.
     
  13. Whitebeard

    Whitebeard Senior Member

    Whilst I agree with your sentiment I doubt it will change. Society has always been divided tween the haves and have nots, its been like that in every civilisation the world has ever seen, and I'm talking of ancient civilisations like the Ancient Egyptians and Babylonians onwards. The moment humanity ceased to be primitive communal hunter gathers and started villages we had leaders who get the cream at the expense of others. 10,000 years and nothing changes and it will never change, some folks are greedy and will seek more at the cost of others getting less.

    Anyway this isn't the thread for such discussion. If you wanna continue start a thread in chit chat.
     
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  14. TEEJ

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  15. M Bornong

    M Bornong Senior Member

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    Rory Senior Member

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  17. Raccoon

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  18. Raccoon

    Raccoon Member

    Click the three dots near the message and click on 'report'.
     
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  19. Rory

    Rory Senior Member

    I mean to the actual authorities, like cops, etc.
     
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  20. Raccoon

    Raccoon Member

    Print out the page or show it to them. :)
     
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  21. Rory

    Rory Senior Member

    So just the local Kansas City cops? I suppose they'll know where to go with it from there.
     
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  22. M Bornong

    M Bornong Senior Member

    https://tips.fbi.gov/
     
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  23. Rory

    Rory Senior Member

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  24. Z.W. Wolf

    Z.W. Wolf Active Member

    What he's saying is so naive... is this really a threat?

    "...RPGs, guns, laser pointers..." Aimed at an airliner at 35,000 feet and miles away on the horizontal. Fantasy.

    An RPG, for example, is simply an unguided grenade with a range from 200 to 700 yards.
     
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  25. M Bornong

    M Bornong Senior Member

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  26. Trailblazer

    Trailblazer Moderator Staff Member

  27. Hevach

    Hevach Senior Member

    It never ceases to amaze me how vastly people overestimate the level of firepower available to private citizens. I mean, sure, if I had no credit limit I could go down to my local gun store right now and get as much firepower as an entire brigade of soldiers from barely over a century ago, but "readily available off the shelf technology" to take down aircraft at altitude? Maybe if I were an upstart African warlord with a few million worth of blood diamonds burning a hole in my pocket.
     
  28. Trailblazer

    Trailblazer Moderator Staff Member

    I'd be more worried that they would try something as a plane is taking off.
     
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  29. MikeG

    MikeG Senior Member

    I agree, but I also think what we see has more to do with fantasy than reality, which doesn't make it any less worrying.
     
  30. GregMc

    GregMc Senior Member

    Or landing. In the Peter Kusznir/ Damian Collins/Robert Hoogenboom/Robert Lloyd McCann episode at Sydney Airport a few years ago the small group of Australian chemtrail believers had tracked and identified the QF64 Qantas flight over Melbourne leaving contrails and knew the expected arrival time in Sydney and the two Roberts were waiting at the airport to confront the pilots in person. They could just have easily been waiting under the approach path to the airport with weapons if so inclined. A number of their online followers have advocated and claimed to use green lasers on the cockpits of planes on approach or whilst overhead.
    In a way the situation is safer to the public if believers think planes leaving trails are military operating out of secret bases.
    The subset of believer/activists who realise most trails are left by passenger jets yet still believe are "spraying" and deserve violent intervention of some form would seem to be the most concerning.