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  1. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

    i thought Saive was British. or am i confusing him with someone else?
     
  2. Efftup

    Efftup Senior Member

    Watch almost ANY Hollywood film. The main bad guy is almost always played by a BRITISH Actor.
    Joss Ackland in Lethal Weapon 2 and Bill & Ted 2. Alan Rickman in Robin Hood and Die Hard, Jeremy Irons in Die hard 3 etc etc so it MUST mean something.
    Also, of course a .com MUST mean you are a business (it's not like it's the most common domain or anything.Or that websites like WIX offer you a free .com domain but make you pay extra for .co.uk or .net or whatever)
     
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  3. M Bornong

    M Bornong Senior Member

  4. Raccoon

    Raccoon Member

  5. Trailblazer

    Trailblazer Moderator Staff Member

    You'd think the availability of flight radar sites would stop the chemtrail idea. No, it just encourages people to try to track down the pilots.

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  6. Z.W. Wolf

    Z.W. Wolf Active Member

    How could you go from identifying the plane to finding the pilot's name/address?
     
  7. Mick West

    Mick West Administrator Staff Member

    It would probably start something like this:

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/lif...s/news-story/19fb843a35518ff4955d38c83dda90c6
    Discussion (old) here:
    https://www.metabunk.org/jet-pilots-fear-chemtrail-attacks.t879/
     
  8. Z.W. Wolf

    Z.W. Wolf Active Member

    What does this mean? What's a "rego"?



    Edit: Ah. http://www.regosearch.com/

    I can't see how identifying the plane would lead to a knowing who the pilot is on a particular airline flight. Surely that's not a part of the info you get through this site. You'd just get the owner info, right? In the case of an airline, where would that info lead?

    Only meeting them on the ground seems do-able, as Mick suggested. Unless they turn their attention to the executives of the airline.
     
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  9. Whitebeard

    Whitebeard Senior Member

    I think its not beyond the bounds of possibility that some of the more extreme of the chemtrail advocate would see a plane known to be 'chemtrailing' land, see a couple of pilots shortly after landing and think they are ones who flew it. (rightly or wrongly). Then they could followed, car registrations traced. In extremis airline data bases and crew rotas could be hacked or otherwise obtained.... Not saying it would be that easy, but it could be done
     
  10. Graham2001

    Graham2001 Active Member

    There is one good real world example of the possible dangers to pilots, that came to light last year. Anti-Vaxxers in Australia have been for a number of years trying to identify a blogger who goes by the name of Reasonable Hank, in November of last year they announced that they had found him, sadly it was someone else they fingered and he has been subjected to a barrage of abuse and threats. This news item covers the story.


    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-07/anti-vaccination-campaigners-target-wrong-person/8001202
     
  11. John Corne

    John Corne New Member

    Surely asking facebook (or whatever) to delete the post or block the user will have no effect, they just pop up again. In the UK, these threats to life should be taken to the police - there have been recent news stories of people ending up in court... maybe the boys in blue knocking on their door would wake some up!

    Jc
     
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  12. Trailblazer

    Trailblazer Moderator Staff Member

  13. Fromage

    Fromage New Member

    At least with the major platforms like facebook, it's not as bad as that. I know some of the people on the abuse desks, and they do take these things seriously, and do have their ways of making it difficult to just "pop up" again. Most of the miscreants that you run across doing things like this are pretty unsophisticated, don't have the "leet skilz" to hide very well, and one or two prompt account terminations tends to spook them into silence. Even if they do manage to pop up again, the interruptions disrupt their ability to spread their vitriol, and lower the ROI on continuing to do it. I once dealt with one particular spammer that took a month worth of automated 2-3 ISP account terminations per day to finally give up. You have to pick your battles tho, don't try this with members of hacker groups unless you really know what you're doing. I'd tend not to involve the police unless you're the target.

    One final point: make your abuse notifications _short_ and impersonal. They don't have time to comprehend monstrous screeds or long-winded explanations of what it is about/background. They have specific policies that they can enforce. Your goal is to show them the evidence that the offending articles violates those policies with no more than a sentence or two of of intro. This is the ideal: "multiple death threats and advocating violence violating your Terms of Service, examples at these links: <link>, <link>, <link>".

    Oh right, getting acknowledgements of such complaints are fairly rare, so don't assume inaction if you don't hear back.
     
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  14. BombDr

    BombDr Senior Member


    I think the Police in the UK will just see them as cranks who happen to own a keyboard, but exploring that a bit further, what would reinforce a view of a massive, elitist conspiracy, than if the Police turn up to 'suppress resistance'? It would be a bit self defeating, would it not?
     
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  15. skephu

    skephu Senior Member

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  16. TEEJ

    TEEJ Senior Member

    Frustration mounting with some Trump supporters.

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  17. WeedWhacker

    WeedWhacker Senior Member

    I find it ironic still that there are people advocating violence against non-existent threats (such as "chem-trails", for example...) by appealing to Trump....
     
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  18. TEEJ

    TEEJ Senior Member

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  19. WeedWhacker

    WeedWhacker Senior Member

    Excellent find, 'TEEJ'! I didn't see info, but I would presume it to be new version of the B-787 already in service. Every variation ('version') of an existing in-service design must undergo the same rigorous flight testing as its predecessor.
     
  20. TEEJ

    TEEJ Senior Member

    Not my find, WeedWhacker. Trailblazer posted it first on Metabunk. It is the inside of Boeing 787-10, registration N528ZC.

     
  21. WeedWhacker

    WeedWhacker Senior Member

    Ah---, the dash-10 variant. Got it. Possibly confusing to those not completely familiar with aviation (and I am at a loss as to
    Boeing's reasons), but the long-established "norm" of 'dash'-100, 'dash'-200 ETC was discarded by Boeing with the advent of the
    B-787 product line. A bit off the topic....and thanks very much for that video!

    (edit) What a beautiful machine. Astonishing (to me) that there is no pneumatic system.
    All electric...guess it can ride in the HOV lane, eh? ;)
     
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  22. M Bornong

    M Bornong Senior Member

  23. Robert Solomon

    Robert Solomon New Member

    Saive is from and lives in Gainesville, Florida.
     
  24. Robert Solomon

    Robert Solomon New Member

    baise.

    And the photo, of course, is from the wake vortex tests.
     
  25. Landru

    Landru Moderator Staff Member

    The comment is no longer there.
     
  26. JRBids

    JRBids Senior Member

    This is kind of a "world colliding" incident. I was reading a Facebook real estate group I'm in and someone posted the screenshot below. Apparently her buyer was supposed to text a photo of her mortgage preapproval and instead posted a screenshot of her phone.

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  27. Hama Neggs

    Hama Neggs Senior Member

  28. Robert Solomon

    Robert Solomon New Member

    I can still see it.
     
  29. M Bornong

    M Bornong Senior Member

  30. Landru

    Landru Moderator Staff Member

  31. TEEJ

    TEEJ Senior Member

    Chris Haskell is currently in jail on terrorism charges. Silly man, he was protesting "chemtrails" and using bags of white powder as part of his demo.

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  32. Hama Neggs

    Hama Neggs Senior Member

    Wow. No matter how much of a nutbar he is, I think it's over the top to be arrested and charged for having an innocuous power as a part of a visual display. He wasn't throwing the power at people, or something like that, was he?
     
  33. Trailblazer

    Trailblazer Moderator Staff Member

    On the YT video his supporters claim that the powder was attached to some of his posters by somebody else.
     
  34. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

    there isn't much info out there and most of the court documents (including the warrant etc) aren't available online. They applied for a search warrant but I cant tell if it was granted or what was found as its not available online. Most of his signs sound pretty innocuous, although a few have infowars.com written on them and after the pizza gate guy with the gun...
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    unfortunately for him he has been using the "it wasn't me" tack (in regards to putting up signs/vandalism i guess) prior to this arrest. :/
     
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  35. TEEJ

    TEEJ Senior Member

    It all depends what they found during the arrest and search. Did they find evidence that he prepared the bag in his house? Fingerprints, DNA on the bag/note? Was the note handwritten and matched up? Was the note printed and prepared on his computer?

    From the video description.

     
  36. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

    ah. yea that's not good. that's like parking your car illegally then taping a bag of fake anthrax to it to prevent them towing it. not good.
     
  37. TEEJ

    TEEJ Senior Member

    He has history of putting up signs that reference "Toxic Metals in Powder Form". Was he going for a visual aid that went wrong for him?

    From 2014 video.

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  38. David Fraser

    David Fraser Senior Member

    It may sound Draconian but how are the authorities to know his intent or if the powder was innocuous? His idea was to cause fear so tough luck. That seems to me to be the whole idea of this thread, highlight fear mongering.
     
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  39. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

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    off topic PSA, but he needs to wake up. Getting electrocuted will kill you faster than imaginary chemtrails.
     
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  40. Hama Neggs

    Hama Neggs Senior Member

    No. This thread is to highlight actual THREATS.

    "His idea was to cause fear so tough luck."

    You can't be serious. That is totalitarian thinking. This whole thing reeks of it. "Mo Jo bag"?? It's meaningless! I don't care how stupid or wrong he is. I will defend his right to speak his mind. The ACLU needs to get involved in this.