Advocating violence against "Chemtrail" planes, pilots, scientists, and debunkers

I have removed the discussion of how to actually bring down a plane. You don't want to give people ideas, or get a visit from the men in black.

This thread is for recording chemtrail related threats made to planes and pilots.
 
and now hes dead, from an unexplained "heart attack". DHS has bought 2 BILLON bullets, thats more than all branches of the military COMBINED. that enough bullets to wage a 30 YEAR WAR. enough to shoot every man, woman, child in america 6 times...The attempt at dismanteling the constitution will bring about the next civil war, youve heard about it, the spineless libs refer to it as "civil unrest" thats the PC version. The fact you bring up breitbart exposes who you work for and your agenda. Liberals do everything in their power to disprove horrible truths, where as conservatives do everything they can to prove horrible truths. Why is that? i would love to hear you rant on that difference. It would be very enlightening as to what you really are. Have you "debunked" Obamas Draft card? have you "Debunked" obamas forged Birth Cert? have you "debunked" obamas 3 gay lovers that were shot in the back of the head? have you "debunked" Obamas SS# thats over 100 years old? have you "debunked" the email trails going from Media Matters FOX news for stories, then emails the Justice Dept, Justice dept responds with a planned response to the reports on FOX, then media matters sends that response to all news media and they all use the Justice Dept headlines?[...] I CHALLENGE YOU TO DEBUNK ANY OF THE THINGS I LISTED. You cant, cause they are all proven true. So why wont you try and debunk the most important issues when it comes to our ability to live? because they go against what your King wants. When they finally destroy the $, and martial law is declared to address "civil unrest" what are you going to blog about then? how stupid conservatives refuse to fo to FEMA camps for their own safety? [...] Karma is real, and im sad for what is coming your way. You are the true enemy of freedom and america. Your propoganda and lies are what helped to bring about the 2nd civil war. Know this in your heart to be true, because it is true. you claim to be so smart, yet you cant see the obvious for some reason. If you really want to "debunk" something, start looking into the Man you have given your lives over to with blind faith. Obama wants you disarmed or dead. and he is willing to do anything to make that happen. I know you will not address ANY of the things i listed because you cant, its against your job description. [...]
 
if you believed that someone was paying to poison the world, i think death penalties are a logical conclusion dont you? If you know someone is poisoning your mother on a daily basis with intent what would your reaction be? ask politely to stop? Their anger is perfectly justified according to their beliefs. you believe the opposite is true, no spraying goin on at all. I think your willfull blindness is a disease of accepted ignorance and its incurable, but im sure you feel the same way about believers. You spend your time belittling people and ignoring the evidence. Lets see you ignore this hmmm? tell me spraying doesnt happen after watching this collection of satellite images showing MASSIVE chem dumping in the middle of the PACIFIC OCEAN. Get your sycophantic debunking team working on this one....lol. I didnit know contrails could be 10 miles wide and 100 miles long and last for 3 days, did you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly-YMSnRozk
 
Unregistered said:
if you believed that someone was paying to poison the world, i think death penalties are a logical conclusion dont you? If you know someone is poisoning your mother on a daily basis with intent what would your reaction be? ask politely to stop? Their anger is perfectly justified according to their beliefs. you believe the opposite is true, no spraying goin on at all. I think your willfull blindness is a disease of accepted ignorance and its incurable, but im sure you feel the same way about believers. You spend your time belittling people and ignoring the evidence. Lets see you ignore this hmmm? tell me spraying doesnt happen after watching this collection of satellite images showing MASSIVE chem dumping in the middle of the PACIFIC OCEAN. Get your sycophantic debunking team working on this one....lol. I didnit know contrails could be 10 miles wide and 100 miles long and last for 3 days, did you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly-YMSnRozk
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Those are ship trails, not contrails. See:
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/65...cific-are-Geoengineering-quot-Chemtrails-quot
 
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Unregistered said:
if you believed that someone was paying to poison the world, i think death penalties are a logical conclusion dont you? If you know someone is poisoning your mother on a daily basis with intent what would your reaction be? ask politely to stop? Their anger is perfectly justified according to their beliefs. you believe the opposite is true, no spraying goin on at all. I think your willfull blindness is a disease of accepted ignorance and its incurable, but im sure you feel the same way about believers. You spend your time belittling people and ignoring the evidence. Lets see you ignore this hmmm? tell me spraying doesnt happen after watching this collection of satellite images showing MASSIVE chem dumping in the middle of the PACIFIC OCEAN. Get your sycophantic debunking team working on this one....lol. I didnit know contrails could be 10 miles wide and 100 miles long and last for 3 days, did you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly-YMSnRozk
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The anger which is inducing these threats of murder, mayhem, kidnapping, blinding, and destruction are all, 100%, based on lies. There is no possible justification for basing violence on such lies. I see you are either one of those liars or you labor under the influence of one. Please stop doing what you are doing. It is harmful to the world and puts your very own soul at risk.
Likely you will be needing mental health support sometime in the future. When it is offered, I suggest you accept it.
 
holy crap. wow.

"I CHALLENGE YOU TO DEBUNK ANY OF THE THINGS I LISTED"

each one from the start to the last is just factually incorrect. we could start with what % of the population dies from unforeseen heart attacks.... the rest of your post has already been covered in depth.

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Another one from Chemtrails over NZ -- perhaps a little more sinister and worth worrying about, as it's directed at those on the ground, and the means to undertake the threat are more easily available...

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I wouldn't discount the motivation or ability for any of the chemtrailers to eventually take a shot at one of these jets. There is a small minority of people that revile my occupation as an aerial applicator, and are vocal about trying to put us out of business. I don't know how many or to what extent the overlap exists between them and the chemtrailers, but just to illustrate the potential for violence I submit the following anecdote. About 3 years ago I was attending the annual regional convention for aerial applicators. At one point during the presentation, the question was asked to the room of about 500 people how many of you know for a fact that you have been shot at while working. Taking out about one hundred of the people in the room for not being pilots (owners/operators, not pilots themselves, allied industry representatives, etc.) it left about 400 aerial applicator pilots to answer the question. Myself and the guy sitting next to me were absolutely stunned to see with a quick count that conservatively 20% of the hands in the room went up. That was a quick poll of aerial applicators that KNOW they have been shot at. It makes one wonder how many of us have been shot at without ever knowing about it. I guess my point is to never underestimate the motivation of violent individuals to carry out an attack against an aircraft, no matter how difficult the reality of it may seem.
 
Agav8r said:
I wouldn't discount the motivation or ability for any of the chemtrailers to eventually take a shot at one of these jets. There is a small minority of people that revile my occupation as an aerial applicator, and are vocal about trying to put us out of business. . . . . . . . I guess my point is to never underestimate the motivation of violent individuals to carry out an attack against an aircraft, no matter how difficult the reality of it may seem.
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Do any of these loons understand the possible consequences of their actions? Are they that detached from reality that they do not understand what actually killing another human being is, what it does to not only the perpetrator and victim(s) but the far reaching ripples engendered on both sides of the equation? It's one thing to subscribe to unsubstantiated theories, another to want to take a life in supporting them. I don't know if they are to be pitied or reviled.
 
Some are disconnected, others feel that they would be acting for a 'common good'. Martyrs to their cause.
 
Cairenn said:
Some are disconnected, others feel that they would be acting for a 'common good'. Martyrs to their cause.
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The extremists I've come across seem to be egging one another on in a quite abstract way too, and it is definitely an ego / attention thing, in order to achieve martyrdom.

Conspiracy believers seem to revel in an odd way in the fear porn aspect of the culture, both repelled and attracted to what they perceive as the horror of it.

There's no doubt in my mind one of them is going to do something stupid eventually. I'm starting to wonder if the best thing to do may be tacitly supporting this personal 'chembuster' nonsense some of them are pushing.

It's placebo for the chemtrailers fears after all, and I'd rather they were putting crystals and rods in the garden than trying to laser airline pilots.

EDIT - Or then again, perhaps not (taken from the top comments on that very video I just linked) -

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id like to again note my odd experience with overseas militant anti-jewish jihadists on facebook sympathizing and communicating with chemtrails/nwo/anti-us-fed-ct... its not a far fall. similar mental capacity/modus opperandi
 
F4Jock said:
Do any of these loons understand the possible consequences of their actions? Are they that detached from reality that they do not understand what actually killing another human being is, what it does to not only the perpetrator and victim(s) but the far reaching ripples engendered on both sides of the equation? It's one thing to subscribe to unsubstantiated theories, another to want to take a life in supporting them. I don't know if they are to be pitied or reviled.
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One other thing that I simply forgot at the time I made my original post is that some (I have no idea of percentages) of the people that are doing the shooting are rural, isolated, largely socially detached, hermit - like landowners that believe that they own the airspace over their properties. A former employer mentioned a specific example of this once, and we had a large red dot on the wall map over his land. A no fly zone. Your comment about their detachment from reality triggered my memory of this, but your comments are still valid, regardless of their particular motivation to shoot at an aircraft. Just wanted to be clear that I was not suggesting that all of those that were shot at were necessarily all part of a coordinated plot. I don't doubt that at least some were.
 
It doesn't take a huge conspiracy to kill lots of folks. In spite of the fact that most conspiracy theorists seem to think it does.

It is the single 'actor' or that person with a couple of friends that is the real danger, because there is so little chance of stopping them.

It seems that many folks have problems accepting that great evil doesn't take large numbers of folks.
 
to quote myself on this cairenn, in my first post on metabunk, an awful thing to do...

Biology and observations of human group behavior rather precludes us from effectively keeping systems such as these isolated(secret) from the rest of the system. We, as an animal simply do not exhibit the traits required to "do our job" correct a high enough percentage of the time to allow for the formation of systems(secrets) so large and involved, while maintaining isolation(secrecy) of the system(secret). We are able to keep some systems isolated but as it grows in complexity and as the number of divergent attributes(individual people) increases we loose the ability to keep each divergent line isolated.

Now what we do seem to have, and reproducibly so, is a desire to see patterns whether or not they exist. aswell, we desire self affirmation and have the ability to ignore information when it conflicts with this. Now this is not necessarily bad as it is an emergent property of auto-correcting systems in nature, but it is hard, by design, to resist or even notice.

ergo, we should not even need to get into such specifics. We will always see systems and patterns where none are present. It is an emergent property of natural systems. Just as one can take the recently published data on corporate wealth isolation and scream NWO/blackops/conspiracy when you see that the most powerful and wealthy are highly interconnected, one could also argue that it is simply how natural systems work, the progressing tend to group due to higher chance of progress. All natural systems exhibit this patterns. trees growing, ants working, money moving.

It is a desire within yourself to elevate yourself above your peers which leads you to cling to a fringe idea regardless of the logic/attributes involved, to persist beyond any and all reasonable logic. it makes you feel better than you did before. special.
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the less a conspiracy it is, the more likely it is to happen...
 
The news media and even worse the on line news media (often content farms) do a lot of sensational headlines.

One I chased down the other day was

"Muslim beheads Two Christians in New Jersey'

and of course it was implied that it was connected to religion in some way.

The real story is that they were all Egyptians and knew each other, they got in an argument. The Muslim, who has a criminal record shot the others, then stole the car. He removed their heads and hands and buried the parts in different places to try to cover up the murder. No religion involved
 
lotek said:
im always unclear on now stupid you have to be to actually get in trouble these days...?
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Assuming someone complains threats like that are taken seriously the the UK. Some bloke tweeted he would blow up.an airport if ut was snowed in and ended up.with a fine

http://metro.co.uk/2010/09/24/paul-...tter-bomb-threat-was-facetious-parody-525024/

It did later get overturned but our police take a dim view of threats over social media. During the riots across the country a few summers back people were getting arrested and prosecuted for making jokes like, 'lets go looting'. I know some were sentenced for a few years. It surprises the authorities have not taken some if these threats in the same way.
 
Unregistered said:
if you believed that someone was paying to poison the world, i think death penalties are a logical conclusion dont you? If you know someone is poisoning your mother on a daily basis with intent what would your reaction be? ask politely to stop? Their anger is perfectly justified according to their beliefs. you believe the opposite is true, no spraying goin on at all. I think your willfull blindness is a disease of accepted ignorance and its incurable, but im sure you feel the same way about believers. You spend your time belittling people and ignoring the evidence. Lets see you ignore this hmmm? tell me spraying doesnt happen after watching this collection of satellite images showing MASSIVE chem dumping in the middle of the PACIFIC OCEAN. Get your sycophantic debunking team working on this one....lol. I didnit know contrails could be 10 miles wide and 100 miles long and last for 3 days, did you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly-YMSnRozk
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With those dimensions, the maximum hypothetical volume that could be put out by the highest capacity aircraft (747) would be less than 1 gallon of liquid sprayed over an area equivalent to the size of an American football field. There is not an aircraft on this planet that has the capacity to carry even remotely close to the volume of liquid needed for these supposed massive far reaching 'chemtrails'. Not by an incredibly wide margin. So there you have the entire chemtrail conspiracy debunked with simple math.
 
Agav8r said:
With those dimensions, the maximum hypothetical volume that could be put out by the highest capacity aircraft (747) would be less than 1 gallon of liquid sprayed over an area equivalent to the size of an American football field. There is not an aircraft on this planet that has the capacity to carry even remotely close to the volume of liquid needed for these supposed massive far reaching 'chemtrails'. Not by an incredibly wide margin. So there you have the entire chemtrail conspiracy debunked with simple math.
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That is true only if the entire visible trail is made up of 100% of the injected aerosol . . .
 
George B said:
That is true only if the entire visible trail is made up of 100% of the injected aerosol . . .
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Correct, but that also negates much of the argument of chemtrail vs contrail, as they believe they can pick them apart. Either they are 100% contrail, or they are 99.99% contrail, yet they claim that the 'normal' contrails will dissipate quickly. If so, 99.99% of the 'chemtrails' will also dissipate quickly, leaving the unseen .01% aerosol remaining. They can't have it both ways.
 
Agav8r said:
Correct, but that also negates much of the argument of chemtrail vs contrail, as they believe they can pick them apart. Either they are 100% contrail, or they are 99.99% contrail, yet they claim that the 'normal' contrails will dissipate quickly. If so, 99.99% of the 'chemtrails' will also dissipate quickly, leaving the unseen .01% aerosol remaining. They can't have it both ways.
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That is why they will eventually have to abandoned their theories . . . visibility has little or nothing to do with injected aerosols and more to do with ambient atmospheric temperature and relative humidity . . . or ice super saturation in the case of persistence . . .
 
Agav8r said:
Correct, but that also negates much of the argument of chemtrail vs contrail, as they believe they can pick them apart. Either they are 100% contrail, or they are 99.99% contrail, yet they claim that the 'normal' contrails will dissipate quickly. If so, 99.99% of the 'chemtrails' will also dissipate quickly, leaving the unseen .01% aerosol remaining. They can't have it both ways.
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Well, that's the nub of it. Doublethink.

Doublethink means always being able to be right, no matter what logic is thrown your way.

Maths? That's just people muttering magic spells which can't work on non-believers.

Of course they can have it both ways.
 
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